French Schoolgirl admits she lied about her teachers action. A lie that led to him being killed in a "Jihadi" beheading

[Dwarvenhobble]

Samuel Paty: French schoolgirl admits lying about murdered teacher

The student admits she was not in class when Samuel Paty showed cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

www.bbc.co.uk

A French schoolgirl has admitted to spreading false claims about a teacher before he was murdered last year.

Samuel Paty was beheaded in October after showing students cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
The girl, whose complaints sparked an online campaign against Paty, has now admitted that she was not in the class.

The 13-year-old girl, who has not been officially named, originally told her father that Paty had asked Muslim students to leave the classroom while he showed the cartoon during a class on free speech and blasphemy.

"She lied because she felt trapped in a spiral because her classmates had asked her to be a spokesperson," her lawyer, Mbeko Tabula, told AFP news agency.

Prosecutors said shortly after the killing that there was a "direct causal link" between the online incitement against Paty and his murder.

It then emerged that the campaign against the history and geography teacher had been based on a distorted account of what had happened in class days earlier.
As he had done in similar lessons on free speech in previous years, Paty warned students that he was about to show a depiction of Muhammad. He said anyone who thought they might be offended could close their eyes.
The girl had originally claimed the teacher had asked Muslim pupils to leave the room. When she objected she was suspended from school, she said. It now appears that the girl was suspended the day before the class was given, according to Le Parisien newspaper, because of repeated absence from school.

The girl explains in her leaked testimony that she made up the story so as not to disappoint her father. He posted two videos on social media in response to the allegations.

In a separate development, two university professors have been given police protection after they were accused of Islamophobia by student protesters.
An investigation has begun after posters were put up last week at Sciences Po university in Grenoble that read "Fascists in our lecture halls, Islamophobia kills", naming the two professors.

So yeh......false claims of a teacher being a monster lead to an extremist finding and killing him it turns out.

 

[Gergar12]

That little aberrant brat.

 

[Wintermute]

 

[Samtemdo8]

Reminds me of the plot to the movie The Hunt, only this time the accused was killed after the accusation.

 

[Agema]

I read through that story, and honestly, I think that girl is considerably more a victim than she is a perpetrator.

 

[Hawki]

From the story, "Islamophobia kills."

No, I'm pretty sure Islamism killed in this case.

Maybe the girl deserves some sympathy, but I have far more of it for Paty. Y'know, the person who was decapitated?

 

[CM156]

All of this over a cartoon.
Still baffles me.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I read through that story, and honestly, I think that girl is considerably more a victim than she is a perpetrator.

She got suspended from school because of her own actions, then lied to her parents so she wouldn't get in trouble and blamed an innocent person who then got murdered.

Yeah, that's probably not an outcome she expected or wanted but she's also not a victim.

 

[Gergar12]

All of this over a cartoon.
Still baffles me.

Some countries in Asia put people to death over small amounts of weed. Society is socially constructed, and the people primarily constructing it are always older more conservative-thinking people who think they know everything because they are old, and that new thing sucks so let's ban it.

 

[Gordon_4]

I read through that story, and honestly, I think that girl is considerably more a victim than she is a perpetrator.

She got suspended from school because of her own actions, then lied to her parents so she wouldn't get in trouble and blamed an innocent person who then got murdered.

Yeah, that's probably not an outcome she expected or wanted but she's also not a victim.

This weirdly reminds me about the conversation about Tony Rocky Horror from Pulp Fiction.

 

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[Casual Shinji]

Oops?

She got suspended from school because of her own actions, then lied to her parents so she wouldn't get in trouble and blamed an innocent person who then got murdered.

Yeah, that's probably not an outcome she expected or wanted but she's also not a victim.

She's a perpetrator and a victim. This is what happens when kids are raised in fundamentalist religious environments. The fact that she confessed is at least something, depending under what circumstances the truth was obtained, though you'll forgive me for not giving her a medal for it.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

She's a perpetrator and a victim. This is what happens when kids are raised in fundamentalist religious environments. The fact that she confessed is at least something, depending under what circumstances the truth was obtained, though you'll forgive me for not giving her a medal for it.

Is it something? The guy is already dead, and weren't there riots over this? At that point it's really kind of a moot point.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Is it something? The guy is already dead, and weren't there riots over this? At that point it's really kind of a moot point.

Admitting after that is also bringing a gargantuan amount of heat onto yourself. Again, it depends on how she admitted - was she caught for example - but if she did it of her own accord, that's still something, not much, but something. But yes, that something that would've been a hell of a lot more had she done so before her teacher got brutally killed.

 

[Dreiko]

I don't get this. Didn't they ask the other kids to confirm this girl's story initially? And if not did no other kid tell their parents that this girl was lying?

Why did we need to wait for her to confess all this time later?

 

[Specter Von Baren]

"She lied because she felt trapped in a spiral because her classmates had asked her to be a spokesperson,"

What does this even mean? Trapped in a spiral of what?

She's a perpetrator and a victim. This is what happens when kids are raised in fundamentalist religious environments. The fact that she confessed is at least something, depending under what circumstances the truth was obtained, though you'll forgive me for not giving her a medal for it.

She was never a victim of her religion though. The teacher was. The girl lying so as not to disappoint her parents is a shitty thing all teens do. Not even the social media campaign is unusual, it's the straight up murder of Paty that has to do with religion.

 

[Casual Shinji]

She was never a victim of her religion though. The teacher was. The girl lying so as not to disappoint her parents is a shitty thing all teens do. Not even the social media campaign is unusual, it's the straight up murder of Paty that has to do with religion.

Unless you're telling me kids are born with religion programmed into their brain, how can you say she wasn't a victim of religious indoctrination or environmental pressure? Even kids lying to their parents so as not to disappoint them is not because kids are born that way, but because they're raised that way.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

Unless you're telling me kids are born with religion programmed into their brain, how can you say she wasn't a victim of religious indoctrination or environmental pressure? Even kids lying to their parents so as not to disappoint them is not because kids are born that way, but because they're raised that way.

You still have yet to explain how she IS a victim of religion. She lied because she was absent to class and used religious persecution as an excuse.

 

[MrCalavera]

You still have yet to explain how she IS a victim of religion.

"Her parent is a fundie, that created this enviroment in the first place" doesn't count?

 

[Trunkage]

I don't get this. Didn't they ask the other kids to confirm this girl's story initially? And if not did no other kid tell their parents that this girl was lying?

Why did we need to wait for her to confess all this time later?

Also, I don't understand why she felt she needed to lie like this. Like, did the school not specifically state why she was suspended?