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  1. Chris OBrien

    Pick Your "Worthless" Super Power!

    I'd like the power to stop time indefinitely, but not be able to affect anything while it is stopped. I'd just like to be able to nap. Or think of really good comebacks.
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    Oh well that explains it, then. I have chosen my words carefully and written very specifically, but you're ignoring me. You never asked directly for a moral reason to give up meat, you presented a topic/scenario that seemed entirely irrelevant. The moral reason to not eat meat: Animals are...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    I don't know if you misread or just misunderstood what I've written, but I don't know how else to answer you. I given you as clear answers as possible given your posts. If, as you insist, you have created a scenario that skirts the issue meat-production altogether, then it must disregard...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    You are talking about an over-population problem, not a diet problem. In your example, one (diet) does not follow the other (an over-populated planet). I and others have pointed out multiple times that it would require less farm land to grow enough plants to feed the people of the planet. In the...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    I have a couple questions for you then, because unless you frame your value system for me, your comments make you seem like a moral relativist. What do you value? If someone made what they thought were personal choices that negatively affected the world and it conflicted with your value...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    Brains, or at the very least, a central nervous system. Does it actively struggle against its environment to survive? If you put something it considers food in front of it, will it eat the food? Does it reproduce in a way similar to human beings, at least on a basic level? He had it, the...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    No one would lose jobs. If the industry of growing plants to eat expands, more jobs will be created in that industry, especially if--as many defending your position seem to believe--it would take significantly more effort to feed the world with plants rather than animals. Like nature, the...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    The problem I'm having with what you are saying is, since this thread became active again after almost a year without posts, no one has behaved the way you describe. As far as this conversation goes, you're writing preemptively. I have never said no one anywhere should ever eat any meat and...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    You have to understand that to you, it's just a choice between chicken or beef for dinner tonight. For them, it's not just about what's tasty, it's about raising awareness of a world of social issues and the implications of the choices we make every time we cook dinner. Calling it a "high...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    This may be true... if it happened instantaneously. But you're not really citing any facts or numbers. In a 2000 calorie diet, the daily intake of protein needed is easily obtained by eating a balanced, plant-based diet without additional effort*. It seems illogical to assume it would take...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    I'm sorry, you've left the realm of facts and reason. If it has protein in it, it is a source of protein. Meat is not 100% protein. In the best cases, it's closer to 30% - http://www.livestrong.com/article/535346-the-protein-content-in-chicken/ The protein to calorie ratio can be...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    You are probably the most reasonable, well-informed person I've seen post. Thanks for speaking up.
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    You couldn't be more incorrect about vegan diets. There is protein in almost every plant--quinoa is one great example of a reliable source of plant based protein--for others, see: http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/top-6-plant-based-proteins - the protein to calorie ratio is usually better in...
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    "You can't love animal's if you're not a vegetarian"

    I think they're probably being stupid, but it is interesting to take a look at how we understand love.