Recent content by Fargus

Cats are out of the question, they don't want cats making a mess out of things and a couple of people there are allergic to cat fur.

Pyro Paul, of course I am attacking you, after your initial comment: As I already said, there is a difference between defending yourself, and wanton cruelty towards an animal. You are not defending yourself in this instance at all, you're being an inhumane jerk by being unnecessarily cruel...

You would QQ too.

Ohh! I knew you'd invoke Goodwin's Law at some point! I'll add to this: your actions resemble more to Hitler than mine.

Please spare us your crocodile tears.

None of which were actually errors. Do you even know what "intent to cause malicious harm is"? Stuff that, let's cut to the chase here... do you even know what "malicious" means?! To cause malicious harm would mean to consciously plan an action, where in advance, you know the consequences...

You don't need to open anything. Mice are so small and fragile that a sharp, forceful blow will kill it instantly. You are exposed to micro-organisms all the time, especially when near other humans, so that is no excuse (it's not like you're going to lick the trap clean, are you?) Perhaps you...

Intend to do what? Intend to transmit disease because it knows how it has disease, and knows what a disease means? Intend to chew your wires because it knows what the wires are for, and what will happen? You make it sound like they have meetings with each other, planning for your misery...

Well said. If he makes the case that killing animals in incredibly painful and unnecessary ways is OK because they carry disease which *could* do the same to a careless human, then perhaps the argument could be made that he is stooping himself to their level by doing this? That he is no...

Check out Pyro Paul's justification: So instead of just killing the bugger so it is put out of its misery, he throws it in the garbage to suffer some more. Not going to even begin listing the excuses he uses for it... it's all in this thread, anyway.

Funny you're referring it to as "cursing" and "aggression" to try and downplay the suffering of the animal as much as possible. If you knew anything about rats, you'd realise that such screams are a signal that the animal is being hurt. A dog, cat, rabbit, human, etc will do the same thing.

Barely. What is rational about torturing a rat to death on a glue trap? It all comes from hatred and spite, there's no rational reason for it at all. It's completely pointless. You don't need to value a rat to see that being cruel to one in such a fashion is immoral. Where is your moral...

Depression is a mental condition. The fact that a rat can get depressed from losing a cagemate is comprehension enough. Rats are very social animals - if you actually observe their behaviour, they are not as simple as you make them out to me. Of course it does. You're practically...

Yet none of these things are reasons to torture something to death. I find it very humorous that you're trying to demonise the animals as much as possible, when none of it is actually their own fault (the reason rats are such an ecological pest is because of us, ultimately). Heck, the...

That has nothing to do with my point at all. Seems like it has flown over your head, again. The problem I see here is that you're using naturalistic fallacy arguments in order to excuse yourself for being unnecessarily cruel to other animals. Yes, nature isn't nice all the time but that's not an...