Recent content by LittleShe-Bear

Read my post. I never said it wasn't healthy. I'm saying justifications for consumption in the past don't mean those justifications automatically hold up in the present. So how do you explain the many, many counter-examples of people who live on a vegan diet in perfect health? If it can be...

For this argument to work, it rests on the premise that the potential for intelligence/self-awareness/consciousness/and so on is the important factor and that's not an assumption I agree with. Bentham's argument is against the assumption that it is the most important factor. Why is it considered...

I find saying that you have to live as an ascetic in order to prove that you care about a cause is just a tad hyperbolic. Just a tad. And it's an argument against every single belief system out there. You're not just arguing against vegans here. You can make a difference without giving up...

But why is intelligence a more important factor than the capacity to feel pain? My compassion for someone is not limited by my estimate of their intelligence. [/Star Trek] So why should we care about anything that doesn't affect us directly? Are you arguing for moral nihilism? No, I...

Quite. I posted to explain my reasons for being vegan to the OP. Those reasons were challenged. I responded. That, and I enjoy a good debate. I've got no intention or expectation of making anyone vegan.

I'm curious, do you believe that anyone with moral beliefs truly hold those beliefs? You can apply this hyperbole to any moral issue: if you really thought your comfort was any less important than gay rights, you would have sold all your gaming supplies, which exist solely for your comfort...

That's an argument against over-population in general, not veganism per se. And yeah, there probably are too many people in the world. No one, especially those of us with an environmental bent would argue against sustainability.

I tend to agree with Bentham; "It may one day come to be recognised that the number of the legs, the villosity of the skin, or the termination of the os sacrum are reasons equally insufficient for abandoning a sensitive being to the same fate. What else is it that should trace the insuperable...

You're far more than just the most primitive part of your brain. There's no need for you to get so riled. Honestly, there's no need. That's one of the best things about our evolved brains, we don't have to give in to our baser instincts, we can exercise control over them. So give it a try, yeah...

I'm not disagreeing with that, I think it's probably true. I just don't see how that's an argument for continuing now. It's a genetic fallacy to say that good in the past automatically means good in the present, regardless of current context. There's no saying it will either. Scare-mongering...

Uhm, a quick google search would also show that science fiction shows use sentience in a far looser way than philosophers do. I really don't think it's a good idea to rely on fictional tv shows for philosophical or scientific definitions. :/

You're also the guy who feels the need to lose his temper, insult and swear at people during perfectly civil discussions. Go you, Mr. Predator.

1. Palate =/= morality. Humans might taste like particularly sweet pork but that doesn't justify cannibalism. You need more justification than, "it's tasty." 2. I think complex animals like sheep, cows, pigs and chickens are sentient. Sentience just means the ability to have subjective...

Then why take part in a discussion of a moral issue? Agreed. Are you saying we wouldn't have evolved to the point we have if we hadn't eaten meat in the past? That may well be true but something being necessary in the past is not an argument to continue it in the present, if it's no...

I don't condemn a lion for killing a gazelle because a lion is not a moral agent. A human has the intelligence and the means (social, technological, economic) to transcend nature and act in opposition to it. A lion does not have the means to be moral, they're not capable of it, so you can't...