78 illegal immigrants in 3 vans try to brute force the California/Mexico border.

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That_Which_Isnt

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http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/sep/23/us-border-shooting-california-092309/?metro

First thing I thought was..

HOLY SHIT 78 IN THREE VANS?

Do you think it was proper for the agents to fire their weapons at the vans? I think they were sort of justified since the van was coming right at them and all
 

maddawg IAJI

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stone0042 said:
I call foul, no way there was 78 people in there.
Maybe they were clowns or somthing. The've been known to cram into tiny vehicles. And it seems like self defense to me.
 

Mookie_Magnus

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stone0042 said:
I call foul, no way there was 78 people in there.
It's Mexicans... 78 people in three vans is nothing.

On-Topic: Yes, I think that they were justified. If you try to come to this country illegally and we catch you, then you will stopped with the full-power of our border patrol and INS.
 

DeadlyYellow

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Hmmm. Tough choice. One the one hand the vans were heading right for them, but on the other they were firing into traffic.
 

stone0042

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Mookie_Magnus said:
It's Mexicans... 78 people in three vans is nothing.

On-Topic: Yes, I think that they were justified. If you try to come to this country illegally and we catch you, then you will stopped with the full-power of our border patrol and INS.
CuddlyCombine said:
According to the article, they ripped out all of the seats. I can believe it.
maddawg IAJI said:
Maybe they were clowns or somthing. The've been known to cram into tiny vehicles. And it seems like self defense to me.
I don't know, I live in Western New York so not to many Mexicans hopping the border here, but 78? How big were these vans? Unless they were the size of a short bus, I honestly don't see how they could cram so many people in there.
 

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Mookie_Magnus said:
stone0042 said:
I call foul, no way there was 78 people in there.
It's Mexicans... 78 people in three vans is nothing.

On-Topic: Yes, I think that they were justified. If you try to come to this country illegally and we catch you, then you will stopped with the full-power of our border patrol and INS.
I feel slightly offended! /joke
But the use of force seemed justified. It's kind of like when a suspect flees in a car and police officers fire at them. Plus, this is an invasion of borders. For all we know they could have had a ton of explosives in those vans and have been suicide bombers.
 

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stone0042 said:
Mookie_Magnus said:
It's Mexicans... 78 people in three vans is nothing.

On-Topic: Yes, I think that they were justified. If you try to come to this country illegally and we catch you, then you will stopped with the full-power of our border patrol and INS.
CuddlyCombine said:
According to the article, they ripped out all of the seats. I can believe it.
maddawg IAJI said:
Maybe they were clowns or somthing. The've been known to cram into tiny vehicles. And it seems like self defense to me.
I don't know, I live in Western New York so not to many Mexicans hopping the border here, but 78? How big were these vans? Unless they were the size of a short bus, I honestly don't see how they could cram so many people in there.
You'd be quite surprised how many people can fit in one vehicle.



quite surprised indeed.
 

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CuddlyCombine said:
stone0042 said:
I call foul, no way there was 78 people in there.
According to the article, they ripped out all of the seats. I can believe it.
I don't doubt it as much as you guys might. Rip out all the seats in some of those large econoline and custom vans and you have a lot of room.

I like this quote from the article:

"Rooney said no evidence suggests anyone in the vans was armed."

So a vehicle cannot be used as a weapon. Tell that to the probably millions that have died from being hit by cars.