A Pokemon game(s) ported on to a console what do you think?

[elderguard]

The pokemon games are portable and portable games are fairly small compared to a console game so we could fit alot of pokemon games on a single disc for a console and i don't know about many other people but i have always played pokemon at home it just always felt weird playing them elsewhere so if i could just turn on a Wii and play it that would be better for me. Nintendo is known for doing cross platform relations between games such as the pokemon box being able to store pokemon from your games so why not port the entire game?

Let's hear what you have to say.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

They have had pokemon to a console....many times, most of the time they were just awful.

 

[FadeSeries]

What you talkin' 'bout? Pokemon Snap was great!

 

[MrTwo]

They've already done that. Many, many times. Apart from colosseum and the storage boxes and rubbish like that, the main one was Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. That was essentially pokemon in 3D, but more shit. I would say that Nintendo doesn't because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Also, pokemon games probably don't have enough substance to be a full blown console game. I mean, they are essentially all the same anyway, yet people have bought them over and over for a decade. And people whinge about Activision...

 

[emeraldrafael]

We've had two pokemon stadium games, one colosseum, and battle revolution. Weve had XD, snap, channel and farm.

Console pokemon games just dont have good track record, with XD being arguably the best and it itself being average.

EDIT:

... I mean, they are essentially all the same anyway, yet people have bought them over and over for a decade. ...

The change is in the mechanics of the game. Its the story that doesnt change cause its a basic and easy to associate with story.

 

[Episode42]

*ahem* Pokemon Stadium.
But then i've always been of the opinion that it's about time Nintendo pulled their finger out and made a 3D Poke-world to explore. Then it'd be worth playing on a home console.

 

[Raggedstar]

Ya...lots of Pokemon games on consoles. The only thing is that they've only been with Nintendo. Several Stadium games (4 if you count Pokemon Colosseum), Hey You! Pikachu, Snap, XD: Gale Of Darkness, that ranch mini-game, and the Pokepark games. Ya, most of them weren't very good, but Pokemon DID hit consoles 0-0. Technically you can also play your portable games on your console if you have the right accessories (like the slot in the N64 controller and you can play using Pokemon Stadium)

If you mean if the already existing portable games were ported to a console, then they've already tried that with Colusseum and XD:GOD (...weird acronym) regarding having a world where you can walk around, battle, and toss PokeBalls. It came to differing opinions, though many people think the formula in those games don't work. It sounds like it would be difficult, especially for the Wii, to run the enviroments/battles in a 3D world with minimal loading times in the same way as the 2D portable RPGs.

 

[AnotherAvatar]

The problem with this idea is that Pokemon is designed for a key demographic: The Japanese. The Pokemon fad in the US has passed, no kid in American has "gotta catch them all", there are other better games for kids to play these days and Pokemon's sales here are mostly from nostalgia purchases or jRPG fandom (which I occasionally subscribe to). However, in Japan, I don't know how else to put this, I feel like Pokemon is like Batman is here; not just some fad to boom and fade. Mind you that second part is just a hunch, as an American I know very little about Japan's game trade, but I still just feel like more of the market for Pokemon is in Japan.

Now for the nail in the coffin of my long held dreams (which have faded since, Pokemon losses a lot of it's luster after age 15 or so) of an epic, console based Pokemon game: In Japan, the portable games market is HUGE. A large amount of commuting is common in Japan, and they have a very strong public transport system (which every country should strive for to reduce unnecessary consumption of finite fuels), this leads to long hours of mobile game time perfect for the classic jRPG grind.

So, yeah, Nintendo of Japan doesn't see any logical profit from a console Pokemon game, and Nintendo of America I guess just aren't capable of doing anything other than translation? One way or another I don't see a legit console port of a Pokemon game happening any time soon, which is somewhat of a shame as I always felt Pokemon would fare batter in the west if it took the console epic and beautiful jRPG route.

On the plus side: Emulation gets better every year and is totally legal if you actually own a copy of the game you want to play. Just hook your computer up to your TV and any USB controller into your computer and you're good to go. Play the game however you want, you own it after all, and modern GBA emulation allows for online play unless I'm mistaken. OH, and I think there might be a free Fan made Old School Pokemon MMO out there, maybe it's worth looking at.

 

[Bobbity]

I don't know how great it would be on consoles, but I really want to see it start appearing on the iPhone and Android app stores. I know Nintendo'll never do it, but it would be awesome.

 

[I forgot]

The problem with this idea is that Pokemon is designed for a key demographic: The Japanese. The Pokemon fad in the US has passed, no kid in American has "gotta catch them all", there are other better games for kids to play these days and Pokemon's sales here are mostly from nostalgia purchases or jRPG fandom (which I occasionally subscribe to). However, in Japan, I don't know how else to put this, I feel like Pokemon is like Batman is here; not just some fad to boom and fade. Mind you that second part is just a hunch, as an American I know very little about Japan's game trade, but I still just feel like more of the market for Pokemon is in Japan.

Now for the nail in the coffin of my long held dreams (which have faded since, Pokemon losses a lot of it's luster after age 15 or so) of an epic, console based Pokemon game: In Japan, the portable games market is HUGE. A large amount of commuting is common in Japan, and they have a very strong public transport system (which every country should strive for to reduce unnecessary consumption of finite fuels), this leads to long hours of mobile game time perfect for the classic jRPG grind.

So, yeah, Nintendo of Japan doesn't see any logical profit from a console Pokemon game, and Nintendo of America I guess just aren't capable of doing anything other than translation? One way or another I don't see a legit console port of a Pokemon game happening any time soon, which is somewhat of a shame as I always felt Pokemon would fare batter in the west if it took the console epic and beautiful jRPG route.

On the plus side: Emulation gets better every year and is totally legal if you actually own a copy of the game you want to play. Just hook your computer up to your TV and any USB controller into your computer and you're good to go. Play the game however you want, you own it after all, and modern GBA emulation allows for online play unless I'm mistaken. OH, and I think there might be a free Fan made Old School Pokemon MMO out there, maybe it's worth looking at.

It's got nothing to do with it being for Japanese. Pokemon still sells like crazy overseas so it hasn't passed in the slightest.

And it's not that Nintendo doesn't see profit in it. First of all, Game Freak is the one in charge of the core pokemon titles, not Nintendo. Second, it's Pokemon's very creator who doesn't believe they should be on consoles. That's also why he's also against a Pokemon MMO.

 

[AnotherAvatar]

The problem with this idea is that Pokemon is designed for a key demographic: The Japanese. The Pokemon fad in the US has passed, no kid in American has "gotta catch them all", there are other better games for kids to play these days and Pokemon's sales here are mostly from nostalgia purchases or jRPG fandom (which I occasionally subscribe to). However, in Japan, I don't know how else to put this, I feel like Pokemon is like Batman is here; not just some fad to boom and fade. Mind you that second part is just a hunch, as an American I know very little about Japan's game trade, but I still just feel like more of the market for Pokemon is in Japan.

Now for the nail in the coffin of my long held dreams (which have faded since, Pokemon losses a lot of it's luster after age 15 or so) of an epic, console based Pokemon game: In Japan, the portable games market is HUGE. A large amount of commuting is common in Japan, and they have a very strong public transport system (which every country should strive for to reduce unnecessary consumption of finite fuels), this leads to long hours of mobile game time perfect for the classic jRPG grind.

So, yeah, Nintendo of Japan doesn't see any logical profit from a console Pokemon game, and Nintendo of America I guess just aren't capable of doing anything other than translation? One way or another I don't see a legit console port of a Pokemon game happening any time soon, which is somewhat of a shame as I always felt Pokemon would fare batter in the west if it took the console epic and beautiful jRPG route.

On the plus side: Emulation gets better every year and is totally legal if you actually own a copy of the game you want to play. Just hook your computer up to your TV and any USB controller into your computer and you're good to go. Play the game however you want, you own it after all, and modern GBA emulation allows for online play unless I'm mistaken. OH, and I think there might be a free Fan made Old School Pokemon MMO out there, maybe it's worth looking at.

It's got nothing to do with it being for Japanese. Pokemon still sells like crazy overseas so it hasn't passed in the slightest.

And it's not that Nintendo doesn't see profit in it. First of all, Game Freak is the one in charge of the core pokemon titles, not Nintendo. Second, it's Pokemon's very creator who doesn't believe they should be on consoles. That's also why he's also against a Pokemon MMO.

Wow, really? Sounds to me like the main creator is against any sort of evolution, which is ironic.

Because, you know, having a Pokemon game set in a beautifully rendered world running off of something akin to the Cry-engine, offering an open sand box to capture, battle, explore, photograph, and play mini games with beautifully rendered Pokemon wouldn't be good for the series at all.

No matter what you say, Pokemon in America is in no way as big as it was in the 90's. In fact I'm pretty sure it could even be referred to as Retro.

 

[I forgot]

The problem with this idea is that Pokemon is designed for a key demographic: The Japanese. The Pokemon fad in the US has passed, no kid in American has "gotta catch them all", there are other better games for kids to play these days and Pokemon's sales here are mostly from nostalgia purchases or jRPG fandom (which I occasionally subscribe to). However, in Japan, I don't know how else to put this, I feel like Pokemon is like Batman is here; not just some fad to boom and fade. Mind you that second part is just a hunch, as an American I know very little about Japan's game trade, but I still just feel like more of the market for Pokemon is in Japan.

Now for the nail in the coffin of my long held dreams (which have faded since, Pokemon losses a lot of it's luster after age 15 or so) of an epic, console based Pokemon game: In Japan, the portable games market is HUGE. A large amount of commuting is common in Japan, and they have a very strong public transport system (which every country should strive for to reduce unnecessary consumption of finite fuels), this leads to long hours of mobile game time perfect for the classic jRPG grind.

So, yeah, Nintendo of Japan doesn't see any logical profit from a console Pokemon game, and Nintendo of America I guess just aren't capable of doing anything other than translation? One way or another I don't see a legit console port of a Pokemon game happening any time soon, which is somewhat of a shame as I always felt Pokemon would fare batter in the west if it took the console epic and beautiful jRPG route.

On the plus side: Emulation gets better every year and is totally legal if you actually own a copy of the game you want to play. Just hook your computer up to your TV and any USB controller into your computer and you're good to go. Play the game however you want, you own it after all, and modern GBA emulation allows for online play unless I'm mistaken. OH, and I think there might be a free Fan made Old School Pokemon MMO out there, maybe it's worth looking at.

It's got nothing to do with it being for Japanese. Pokemon still sells like crazy overseas so it hasn't passed in the slightest.

And it's not that Nintendo doesn't see profit in it. First of all, Game Freak is the one in charge of the core pokemon titles, not Nintendo. Second, it's Pokemon's very creator who doesn't believe they should be on consoles. That's also why he's also against a Pokemon MMO.

Wow, really? Sounds to me like the main creator is against any sort of evolution, which is ironic.

Because, you know, having a Pokemon game set in a beautifully rendered world running off of something akin to the Cry-engine, offering an open sand box to capture, battle, explore, photograph, and play mini games with beautifully rendered Pokemon wouldn't be good for the series at all.

No matter what you say, Pokemon in America is in no way as big as it was in the 90's. In fact I'm pretty sure it could even be referred to as Retro.

It's not that the creator is against evolution (everything you mentioned wasn't evolution but graphics) but that he values the handhelds because it encourages people to go out and meet each other (which for the most part is true, even with the wireless connectivity). His philosophy is that Pokemon is a game for social interaction and it's easier when you can carry the game anywhere with you than be forced to sit in a single room with a computer (which he has a point). If you think about it, there will be a Pokemon MMO but it won't be on a PC.

Games barely get passed 1 million units but even the most recent Pokemon games sell 10x that amount. The fact is that the charts say that Pokemon sales still surpass the majority of games and make truck loads of money. It may not feel as big in our perspective but they're still big and are far from retro.

 

[Matrixbeast]

I think Pokemon should stay on the handhelds...

Unless the team who makes the console Pokemon games finally decides to make the first 251 models from scratch. Those models are godawful (Compare Sneasel to Weavile in Battle Revolution to see the difference in quality)