A review of Yatzee's ZP reviews of anything multiplayer

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squirrelman42

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Yahtzee, I'm going to be speaking to you in this review though I doubt that you'll climb down from your Olympian perch atop Mt. Escapist to read this lowly user comment in the user section, but dammit this needs to be said.

Your reviews are entertaining and uplifting for my masochistic brain. It has provided a necessary 5 minute escape from the drudgery of real life in the middle of every exasperatingly benign week. However, your reviews fail to capture something rather important: the multi-player aspect. You've said many times how you "don't do multi-player" because you hate interacting with other people or whatever, but it's time for you to stop copping out.

Smash Brothers single player is boring as hell, especially since they removed the individual target tests for each character, we all knew that coming into it and while we appreciated your attempt to find people to stand your company for a few hours, what you should have done is compared it to previous smash brothers if you really wanted to "review" it for our benefit.

Your Halo 3 supplement was equally flawed. The single player experience is only a fraction of the game (one personally that I feel should have implants added to add substance and size). The online multiplayer is what keeps people playing this game. It has tons of game variants, ranked and casual arenas, and best of all, you can mute everyone. Yes, that group of people you charitably described as lively can be muted. All of em. You can make a party for yourself, you can individually mute annoying pricks, or you can just turn down the volume on the headset (my favorite, because they can hear me but I can't hear them). Yet this, as shown by bungie.net is where everyone spends their time playing this game.

This now brings me to the whole reason I write this. Your Call of Duty review. Yes the single player campaign was everything you said, over-shocking, under-long, and more jaw dropping than an acid trip with Giana Michaels at the destination. I also want to give you a gold-star for finding someone again to stand your company for a short time while you did the co-op missions together (one thing you neglected to mention was that all of these missions were taken straight from the campaign, which gave it a "last ditch effort" feel to the whole experience). However, you completely omitted the biggest reason to get this game. The part of the game that will consume the most time, that the developers put the most time and money into conceiving and balancing, and the reason to get this game over the countless other shooters on the market.

ONLINE MULTIPLAYER. 70 levels of upgrades and unlocks, plus prestiege mode after that. customizable classes, pick your weapon, pick your perks, get the gun that suits you right. I myself made a stable of 5 classes that mimic TF2 classes, though the only one that comes close is the scout (marathon, lightweight, commando pro perks with an SMG and shotgun, amazing in CTF). Like it or not, this is a huge part of the game that you outright refuse to touch.

Come on Yahtzee, like it or not you're a celebrity now and as such you are held to a higher standard of scrutiny. I don't always agree with your reviews, but I find them to be amusing and a good indicator of whether or not a game is worth buying. You hold so much power in your hand and you're misusing it. Suck it up, renew your XBL account, and participate in the online multi-player experience long enough to tell us why to get one online shooter over another. This is a recession and people want to know the best bang for their buck. So many people play WoW because it provides so much "entertainment" for so little monetary investment. Also, we crave interaction with other humans, though not in person, because then we get self-conscious.

I'm not going to do something silly like call a rally to boycott your videos because A.) who am I? Nobody will listen to me if I said that and B.) I enjoy them too much to stop. But dammit, you only become a better player by facing a stronger opponent, and you only master your craft by hearing criticism, and if you want to make good and thorough "reviews" then tell us about the multi-player (where applicable).

Ok, thank you everyone who reads this but isn't Yahtzee...god knows he won't.
 

hopeneverdies

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I don't think you really watched his SSBB review. He got together 3 of his friends and they hated it. Except for the catharsis factor.
 

funguy2121

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Nope. Celebrity shouldn't change a man, and being an "indie" celeb Yatzee's in a unique position of constantly receiving calls from the pimps at Reebok and Toyota. There is no reason for someone to "go mainstream" to appease anyone. If he tells everyone who doesn't like his reviews to piss off than what remains will be his true fans.

I do enjoy a good online experience but - and maybe it's because I came of age during the N64 era - it will never ever ever hold a candle to sharing the multi experience with people who are actually in the room.
 

Legion

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The thing is, multiplayer shouldn't be the long part that keeps people playing the game. Not everyone wants to fork out the money to play online and they should be able to spend their money on a full length single player game and not feel ripped off.

If anything game companies should release two editions: The 'standard' one which only comes with single player/co-op if it's not online only and the 'deluxe' edition which includes all of the multiplayer aspects. That way everyone can buy the game without feeling like they have wasted their money.

It is also impossible to review multiplayer properly because more often than not it isn't the game-play that determines how good it is, it's usually the servers/connection, the people then the game itself (in that order) that decides whether or not the online experience is any good.
 

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Yahtzee doesn't have to play online multiplayer if he dislikes it. Also, everything he says is just his opinion. I watch his videos cos they make me laugh, if I want to know whether a game is good or not, I'll read other reviews or just play it myself and make my own mind up.
 

squirrelman42

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Machines Are Us said:
If anything game companies should release two editions: The standard one which only comes with single player/co-op if it's not only online and the 'deluxe' edition which includes all multiplayer aspects. That way everyone can buy the game without like they have wasted their money.
Orange Box on Steam, you can get just TF2 if you only want multiplayer or only get HL2 ep2 if all you want is that. Except for online distribution like that, sadly, this isn't going to happen, especially because people will pay the full amount for both.

I'm not saying ZP isn't funny, but if he wants his reviews to be more thorough, he needs to include all aspects of the game. And if he doesn't care, then he doesn't. I just want more from him.
 
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What about people who don't play the multiplayer? I couldn't care less what the multiplayer plays like, I want to know about the single player campaign.

The few times I've been on online multiplayers I hated the experience, my accent is mocked, my wanting to have fun is mocked, my not adhering to their method of playing is mocked. It's a terrible experience marred by the users, and while I enjoy a local multiplayer with friends, it's because of the experience being shared in person, and has nothing to do with the game. My friends and I have played some awful games together and still enjoyed the experience.
 

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One of the reasons Yahtzee is so well known is that he displays utter disregard for anything resembling a fan. Good luck with contacting him like this.
 

squirrelman42

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wbibbiani said:
I just think it's funny that people are criticizing someone because they criticized a critic.
I like you already :)

He's not perfect guys, he's said so himself and this is my review of his review, if you don't like my opinion you are certainly free to write your own review of this :p
 

Therumancer

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Well, a couple of points:

#1: All reviewers have their own personal foibles, likes, and dislikes. Yahtzee is a lot like me in of the fact that he's not really "into" the multiplayer aspects of games especially online. In watching him as a reviewer, you have to understand his opinions to begin with.

It also means that if he happens to start screaming the praises of a game's multiplayer or whatever, then it must be something really special.

In watching a lot of Yahtzee you can interpet a lot of things by listening to what he says and then comparing it to what your general opinions tend towards compared to his.


#2: If Yahtzee was to signifigantly change he would cease to be the personality that we've formed a cult around.



#3: Perhaps in contridiction to #2, I don't think Yahtzee ever implied he couldn't be bought (quite the opposite in fact), I do get the impression that he treats some games with kid gloves so to speak, in a few reviews I've felt like he was talking around the game to avoid slamming it directly. Given that The Escapist makes money through onsite advertising I am a bit surprised he has lasted as long as he has as a slice and dice reviewer.

As funny as it might sound the whole Gerstmann contreversy over Kane and Lynch was not new. Scorpia worked for Computer Gaming World for like 16 years and when that whole thing fell apart there were a lot of stories about why and Scorpia's slice and dice reviewing fit heavily into many of them. :p
 

Nocturnus

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I can agree with Yahtzee for one reason.

In the good ol' days, if a game didn't have a solid single player core? It didn't sell. Now, game companies are getting exceptionally lazy with their single player, cutting it down to a few measly hours, tacking on "A few new multiplayer" options, and selling it for oodles of cash.

What really kind of stinks is that people will, as Yahtzee likes to put it, robot their way to the game store and buy it anyway, perpetuating it.

Oh well.
 

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Machines Are Us said:
The thing is, multiplayer shouldn't be the long part that keeps people playing the game. Not everyone wants to fork out the money to play online and they should be able to spend their money on a full length single player game and not feel ripped off.
Yes, and that's fine for a single player game designed to played solo. Usually RPGs I admit but single player games can be fantastic and enjoyable as well as multiplayer-orientated games. The thing is CoD is a primarily multiplayer experience. MW2 has a spectacular single-player, even though I think Yahtzee is a bit right about the "shock" since the game plays like they thought up a bunch of set pieces and exciting scenes and strung them together with a vague plot, and genuinely fun co-op, but the game is multiplayer centric and not like single player games.

For single player people can get other perfectly good games, there is nothing wrong with multiplayer being a central part of the whole game experience. Like I said; CoD is a multiplayer famed game and not mentioning it in a review is like writing a review of Fallout 3 but ignoring half the stats and only playing iout of VATS with the letters SEAL instead of SPECIAL.

Although why anybody bases buying decisions on a Yahtzee review is beyong me. He's admitted himself that giving good reviews is boring and he is a comedian and entertainer before he is a reviewer. I like his videos because I find them funny but I base my buying decisions on some reviews/demo/friend's opinion because I find I can trust them more than I can a man who relies on cartoons to get across half his points.
 

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Lord Krunk said:
Once again, someone actually believes that the multiplayer makes the game.
HERESY!!!!

I hate you people

Anyway, I guess I'm pretty biased on this topic, because I don't play online. No reral reason. I prefer single player. There is nothing wrong with that.
 

Daveman

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lol, he's not gonna read this you know. I felt I should say that.

Also somebody brought up Halo 3 so ima gon rant now. There done. (I typed it all out then deleted it again because it was all flamebait)
 

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squirrelman42 said:
wbibbiani said:
I just think it's funny that people are criticizing someone because they criticized a critic.
I like you already :)

He's not perfect guys, he's said so himself and this is my review of his review, if you don't like my opinion you are certainly free to write your own review of this :p
Nobody is, and everybody's entitled to their opinion. Everybody's got one and they all stink. You know the old saying.
 

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squirrelman42 said:
Come on Yahtzee, like it or not you're a celebrity now and as such you are held to a higher standard of scrutiny. I don't always agree with your reviews, but I find them to be amusing and a good indicator of whether or not a game is worth buying. You hold so much power in your hand and you're misusing it. Suck it up, renew your XBL account, and participate in the online multi-player experience long enough to tell us why to get one online shooter over another. This is a recession and people want to know the best bang for their buck. So many people play WoW because it provides so much "entertainment" for so little monetary investment. Also, we crave interaction with other humans, though not in person, because then we get self-conscious.
I agree 100%.
If he wants to be a legit reviewer he need to study all aspects of the game that he is reviewing, and not just the ones he likes.
However I have never thought of the man as a legit reviewer, God knows hes funny, and I have watched all his videos, but to me he will always be an entertainer not an informer.
I have never taken one of his reviews seriously, because It seems that he doesn't take them seriously himself.
There is nothing wrong with that though, if he has fun with it while entertaining everyone I think thats great, but this is the reason I dont get mad about this is because of that reason.
Imagine if you went onto Gametrailers.com and their review of CoD was only about the special missions.
If someone wants to be an legitimate critic of video games, that person needs to play every aspect of it, not just the ones he likes.