An argument I'm having on the gay marriage thread (short version)
Me: Good, everyone deserves to have marriage equality
person: The institution of marriage makes no sense, why they heck does the government have to make it legit? Gays will just be unhappy regardless.
Me: Good point, but the legal system makes everything legit and all you're doing when you use that argument is keeping things the same for everyone who's heterosexual and maintaining discrimination against same-sex couples seeking equal benefits that everyone else gets automatically when they get married to their opposite sex spouse.
person: I'm not against gay marriage dude, i'm just telling you it's pointless and people should have the right to just be with whoever they want when they want without any legal 'declaration'
Me: say that to the evangelical church down the street from my house, who's members run/staff banks, stores, schools, hospitals... they're not going to care about how much I love my boyfriend, we're not legally married so they'll quickly to deny us those standard rights (to them or the government it's an imaginary union otherwise)on top of any underlying prejudice they may hold. when we question this treatment "nowhere in the law does it say that you're both married and we don't recognized marriage by verbal contact... only if they signed your marriage forms".
I really can't understand people like this, it's just a veiled way of saying "I don't give a f&&k about what happens to you or what discrimination/prejudices you face because I don't deal with them and I don't understand why people get married anyway" I can tell he's young and or single, because I've never heard anyone brush off the concept of marriage so much as to say it has no legal significance, even for people who are denied that and other kinds recognition.
It's a nice concept, but I'd prefer not to have society treat my partner like my "roommate" rather than my spouse just because he's also a guy all because some people are paranoid that the government is out to get them.