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So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.

[Edit] I've renamed the Subject because the last title didn't really depict the content.

My issue here is how Africa is being depicted in gaming. I'm not taking potshots at CoD. Far Cry 2 and RE5 made the same mistakes.
 

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KwaggaDan said:
During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.
During the Ghillied Up mission in the first Modern Warfare? Actually, they did. Perhaps not wolves specifically, but the Russians certainly used attack dogs, most likely german shepards. I wouldn't know, i'm not an expert on dog breeds.
 

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Do the people wear Harley Quinn costumes? Then it could be cool.

Er, the pre-reboot costume, I mean.
 

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Mike-O said:
KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
Answer me this; did you meet/kill every African in the CoD world? I'm sure SOME OF THEM have lions.
Well, yeah maybe, but it only adds to the silliness.
 

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American soldiers with the ability to regenerate from bullet wounds in mere seconds?

What arbitrary silliness
 

KwaggaDan

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Vanguard_Ex said:
Actually...
Hehe, sorry
Yeah, I said it has been done in the past. But the impression it creates is that we all have attack hyenas. It's just a little contrived. Sure maybe a scene with a hyena and some dogs can work, but the fact that it's all hyenas? Come on, Man!
 

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KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
You have answered your OWN QUESTION.

The game depicts one incidence where hyenas are domesticated and used as attack dogs, NOT that "every African has a pet hyena"

Just that, as you reasonably say: "there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed". And those incidents are depicted.

Russians in COD4 didn't have pet wolves, they DID have trained attack dogs, because they could afford them.

ITT: people blowing shit out of proportion to be sensationalist and inflammatory.
 

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Apparently, hyenas are listed as "threatened" in Sierra Leone.

DOn't shoot the hyenas!
 

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Treblaine said:
KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
You have answered your OWN QUESTION.

The game depicts one incidence where hyenas are domesticated and used as attack dogs, NOT that "every African has a pet hyena"

Just that, as you reasonably say: "there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed". And those incidents are depicted.

Russians in COD4 didn't have pet wolves, they DID have trained attack dogs, because they could afford them.

ITT: people blowing shit out of proportion to be sensationalist and inflammatory.
Maybe I am blowing this out of proportion, but I'm getting tired of Africa and Africans being misrepresented in games. And yeah, there are incidents where it happened, so why didn't the Chernobyl section have attack bears or wolves? That's happened before?

And Africans can afford dogs. This is just simply something that looked cool, so they signed off on it, but they'd never do the same for a European section. And that's my issue.
 

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KwaggaDan said:
Treblaine said:
KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
You have answered your OWN QUESTION.

The game depicts one incidence where hyenas are domesticated and used as attack dogs, NOT that "every African has a pet hyena"

Just that, as you reasonably say: "there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed". And those incidents are depicted.

Russians in COD4 didn't have pet wolves, they DID have trained attack dogs, because they could afford them.

ITT: people blowing shit out of proportion to be sensationalist and inflammatory.
Maybe I am blowing this out of proportion, but I'm getting tired of Africa and Africans being misrepresented in games. And yeah, there are incidents where it happened, so why didn't the Chernobyl section have attack bears or wolves? That's happened before?

And Africans can afford dogs. This is just simply something that looked cool, so they signed off on it, but they'd never do the same for a European section. And that's my issue.
Have you any idea how much a trained and bred German Shepard costs? A lot. And I'm not sure thse elite German breeding kennels are even willing to sell to African warlord no matter how much money they offer. They tend to sell to European and American police and military organisations.

"This is just simply something that looked cool"

Heaven forbid a game does that.

"they'd never do the same for a European section."

Attack bears would be straying a bit too far into C&C Red Alert territory... where they HAVE done that. Look at RE4's depiction of the Spanish... in 2005. And that game was a huge success in the west. Look at Wolfenstein, what it depicts the Germans doing in the 1940's. Or Bioshock, what it shows a European/American habitat would do with extreme enough circumstances. Africa is not getting special treatment, and don't expect exceptional exclusion.
 

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It gets worse. Wait until you see the stereotyped attack dogs that appear in the Northern Ireland stages.

 

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Oh, a Call of Duty hate thread that will lead to nowhere, its not like we have had hundreds of these things since Modern Warfare 2 came out (even ill admit ive done it before, but by now everyone and their mom is sick and tired of them).

As others have already said, yes, people in the Sierra Leone do have domesticated hyenas, and yes, the Russians you killed in Call of Duty 4 during the Chernobyl mission did have attack dogs.
 

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Batou667 said:
It gets worse. Wait until you see the stereotyped attack dogs that appear in the Northern Ireland stages.

Oh god I laughed so hard. So hard.
 

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Treblaine said:
KwaggaDan said:
Treblaine said:
KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
You have answered your OWN QUESTION.

The game depicts one incidence where hyenas are domesticated and used as attack dogs, NOT that "every African has a pet hyena"

Just that, as you reasonably say: "there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed". And those incidents are depicted.

Russians in COD4 didn't have pet wolves, they DID have trained attack dogs, because they could afford them.

ITT: people blowing shit out of proportion to be sensationalist and inflammatory.
Maybe I am blowing this out of proportion, but I'm getting tired of Africa and Africans being misrepresented in games. And yeah, there are incidents where it happened, so why didn't the Chernobyl section have attack bears or wolves? That's happened before?

And Africans can afford dogs. This is just simply something that looked cool, so they signed off on it, but they'd never do the same for a European section. And that's my issue.
Have you any idea how much a trained and bred German Shepard costs? A lot. And I'm not sure thse elite German breeding kennels are even willing to sell to African warlord no matter how much money they offer. They tend to sell to European and American police and military organisations.

"This is just simply something that looked cool"

Heaven forbid a game does that.

"they'd never do the same for a European section."

Attack bears would be straying a bit too far into C&C Red Alert territory... where they HAVE done that. Look at RE4's depiction of the Spanish... in 2005. And that game was a huge success in the west. Look at Wolfenstein, what it depicts the Germans doing in the 1940's. Or Bioshock, what it shows a European/American habitat would do with extreme enough circumstances. Africa is not getting special treatment, and don't expect exceptional exclusion.
I think we're talking around each other here. Yeah, I know a properly trained attack dog is expensive, and yes I know some games have taken the mickey. My issue is that they play so much of the game straight. They make a point of depicting "a real world possibility." It just seems like a bit of a cheap shot.

But yeah, I'm probably blowing this out of proportion, but I'm just getting tired of how Africa is depicted in games...
 

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KwaggaDan said:
So, while playing through CoD, there's a portion where you travel to Africa, Sierra Leone to be exact, and the attackers use Hyenas as attack dogs. Really now? Why not simply have them use lions or maybe elephants?

And yeah, I know there are incidents where Hyenas have been tamed, or even domesticated, but it's not like every African has a pet hyena. During the Chernobyl section did the Russians use pet wolves? No.

How utterly silly.
Hyenas will fuck you up. And I'd hardly consider them "tamed" so much as trained to bite the fuck out of anyone that isn't their master. That's hardly a guard dog.
 

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Batou667 said:
It gets worse. Wait until you see the stereotyped attack dogs that appear in the Northern Ireland stages.

I actually ROFL'ed. You win this thread!