Age = SMRT?

[UnusualStranger]

Hello everyone....

Does age really mean all that much? I recently have noticed again how being "young" instantly makes you "foolish", while living a few years makes you "old" and "experienced".

However, more often than not, I find this is not the case. I find older people wanting the world to stay the same, or for new video games, art forms, and all sorts of new things appearing in the public eye to be heavily regulated, or destroyed.

Know what I hate most?

( Well, a lot of things, but that is beside the point! )

Its that people so happily throw this into any discussion amongst generations. "Well, you're young, so you don't know what you are talking about". Hold that thought.

This means, that even if you went on to read all about the study of the human body, and worked in lab conditions exploring muscle mass, the different parts of the brain, and how cancer cells work, if you are, lets say 25, you don't know what you are talking about because you are young?

I call BS. I think age is more often a number than a sign of anything. Being young or old can have very little to do with how much wisdom or other knowledge you may have.

Now, the question I pose to you is, where do you stand on the age fight? When you are older, does that mean that you might be more knowledgeable? Do you have experiences telling you otherwise? Heck, have the words "You're young, so you wouldn't understand" ever been used on you? Feedback is nice people, lets hear it!

 

[Wardnath]

Not too sure, really.

 

[Hobo Joe]

There are idiots on both sides, I don't like to generalise; get to know each individual rather than relying on some sort of stereotype.

 

[Pegghead]

Well no I don't think age is credible in an argument. Really it just comes down to experience.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm 22. I'm smarter and wiser than I was 7 years ago. So yes, age = wisdom. Obviously an incredibly stupid person will become slightly less stupid with age, but is still stupid.

 

[MorsePacific]

Becoming older simply means you have more life experience than someone of lesser years. I like to call this collection of experiences "wisdom".

When you're young, you can have just as much knowledge as someone much older than you, but they will inevitably be wiser, due simply to their greater amount of experience. However, this isn't always true, as I've met some incredibly wise teenagers.

I guess it's really just a generalization that age is in direct proportion to wisdom/intelligence.

 

[SilverUchiha]

I agree with one of the earlier posters that generalizing like this isn't good because there really are dumb-fucks on both sides of the fence here (just like in any argument).

My only response is that I like the "SMRT" in the subject title. Reminds me of Homer Simpson's little dance after getting his diploma.

 

[PureChaos]

in a way, age and experience can be helpful but there are some people who are the exception to the rule. working with the public for years made me realize that most people should be considered retards until they can prove otherwise.

 

[keybird]

in a way, age and experience can be helpful but there are some people who are the exception to the rule. working with the public for years made me realize that most people should be considered retards until they can prove otherwise.

I have also learned that you should never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

Who knows, they might go off and start something crazy like a religion

 

[Prof.Wood]

Yes and no really. as you age you have done/learned more so people will look to you as similar circumstances may have all ready happened to you thus meaning you will know what to do.

On a side note this kind of alleys to car insurance at 17 if you have just passed your test then it will cost an an arm and a leg but if you have just passed at 30 no problem.

 

[Biosophilogical]

Well, I think it is just that people have taken the obvious applies-in-almost-every-case fact that pre-adolescents are mentally immature (can't see both sides to an argument, can't empathise or understand things, etc) a bit too far, and started applying it to everyone. I mean, I am smarter and wiser than some older people, and some younger people are, no doubt, even wiser than I am, so ignoring the instances when the rule doesn't apply just so that you can use the rule is stupid, if a rule no longer applies, it no longer applies, no matter how many times you close your eyes and go 'La-La-La-La I can't hear you!'.

 

[Hollock]

I guess it's a matter of wisdom, not intellegence or maturaty, and it's completely lost on some people. wouldn't the world be perfect if we all walked around with paper bags on our heads?

 

[crystalsnow]

If the world never changed, age would equal intelligence. But the world does change.

Younger people get access to newer information as they grow up, and their energy allows them to do and learn more than say, someone who's 60 years old.

But you also have to consider the other aspect. I personally don't think intelligence is defined by how much you know about an aspect you can be taught (Math, English, whatever), but rather the things that you learn on your own to discover new ideas. Wisdom to know something that you were never taught, but were able to figure out using information you already knew is what I think defines how smart someone is.

Someone knowing how to do something by learning it from someone is polishing a SKILL. Skilled does not mean the same as smart. Having many skills and being going at them will certainly help your intelligence, but their are other factors.

 

[Wadders]

I think it comes down to life experience. In theory, the longer you live, the more you experience, thus the more you know for yourself, and so you are considered wiser than younger people.

Pretty simple really, but not always true. Some old people are total cunts. But then, they were probably cunts when they were young.

 

[UnusualStranger]

To paraphrase Billy Connolly, young arseholes have a great tendency to become old arseholes.

To compare it to on here, age is like a post count. Some people assume that the people with the higher post counts are more knowledgeable, some assume the opposite, that the high posters are all morons, some high posters assume they have more knowledge.

However, what people should do is take all these people as individuals, and not as a group.

I have met many old people who are totally modern, and liberal and all the things that are not typically considered normal of the older generation. My gran aunt plays a DS for gods sakes, and she's 77!

As for knowledge, back to the Billy Connolly thing again. If someone is a moron when they're young, getting older isn't going to cure them of that. Likewise, if someone is smart when they're young, they will probably be smart if they're old. I don't believe either that young people are inherently stupider than the older generations because they haven't experienced as much. I once knew an old man of about 81 in the town next to me who's never been out of the county and he thinks he knows more than young people who've traveled all over the world. Same with the young peoples attitude that older people are stupid and backward.

It all depends on the person, not the age.

My thought exactly. People who are idiots tend to remain idiots, and people who are smart continue being so.

My main thing was, that there still doesn't seem to be a distinction between the two. It seems more along the lines of "Old and Young" than, "Smart and Stupid"

I agree with one of the earlier posters that generalizing like this isn't good because there really are dumb-fucks on both sides of the fence here (just like in any argument).

My only response is that I like the "SMRT" in the subject title. Reminds me of Homer Simpson's little dance after getting his diploma.

Kind of what I was shooting for. Tossing in a bit of humor with a more grim topic is always a quirk I have.

I'm 22. I'm smarter and wiser than I was 7 years ago. So yes, age = wisdom. Obviously an incredibly stupid person will become slightly less stupid with age, but is still stupid.

This is sort of my argument. Is he really not as idiotic when he was younger, or just follows the motions that require him to live in the public eye? Just because he doesn't APPEAR as idiotic, doesn't make him smarter from age.

Becoming older simply means you have more life experience than someone of lesser years. I like to call this collection of experiences "wisdom".

When you're young, you can have just as much knowledge as someone much older than you, but they will inevitably be wiser, due simply to their greater amount of experience. However, this isn't always true, as I've met some incredibly wise teenagers.

I guess it's really just a generalization that age is in direct proportion to wisdom/intelligence.

Exactly. Its a generalization that appears to have too much weight in discussions. You age does not mean you have more wisdom, you should have to prove you have it.

 

[cieply]

Being 22 I can move freely whenever I want. Still, it's best for yu to stick wit your own agegroup. Similar playing hours and dedication.
From my experience, older players are more organized and serious, less drama, but generally cannot commit to a game totally to be the best. Younger players are usually not well organized, and if they are, they usually are dead serious about the game and can cry about things like missing a raid spot.

I think best group is uni students, pretty mature and laid back, at least of average intelligence and with plenty of time to invest in a game.

Still, stick with your own age for the best fun. Just as in real life.

 

[Red Right Hand]

I don't think it's a case of people thinking that kids aren't as smart, but more that they're less mature. Which in most cases they would be correct. Though I do know some incredibly mature, sensible 17 year olds and some immature, quite frankly idiotic 50 year olds so the spectrum varies, it's a fact of life, so I would get used to it, and then mass generalise the youth when we're older

 

[UnusualStranger]

Being 22 I can move freely whenever I want. Still, it's best for yu to stick wit your own agegroup. Similar playing hours and dedication.
From my experience, older players are more organized and serious, less drama, but generally cannot commit to a game totally to be the best. Younger players are usually not well organized, and if they are, they usually are dead serious about the game and can cry about things like missing a raid spot.

I think best group is uni students, pretty mature and laid back, at least of average intelligence and with plenty of time to invest in a game.

Still, stick with your own age for the best fun. Just as in real life.

A little off topic, but I can run with this...

I do better with different age groups. I know this, because all of my friends around my age don't play like I do. Yes, we have fun, and all that stuff, but it sometimes seems that things start to get out of hand, and revenge falls in. I play with some older, and sometimes younger people, and they seem to be more my style. Of course, I am an odd person, so I am not an accurate reading.

If the world never changed, age would equal intelligence. But the world does change.

Younger people get access to newer information as they grow up, and their energy allows them to do and learn more than say, someone who's 60 years old.

But you also have to consider the other aspect. I personally don't think intelligence is defined by how much you know about an aspect you can be taught (Math, English, whatever), but rather the things that you learn on your own to discover new ideas. Wisdom to know something that you were never taught, but were able to figure out using information you already knew is what I think defines how smart someone is.

Someone knowing how to do something by learning it from someone is polishing a SKILL. Skilled does not mean the same as smart. Having many skills and being going at them will certainly help your intelligence, but their are other factors.

Hm....This makes sense. I can understand age can sometimes equal an increase in skill, and that book reading is not quite the same as good old experience, but sometimes, experience is wrong, just as books are. Yet, at times it seems too often great skills have been gained because you have been doing one thing for X amount of years. Sometimes, habits that you have been doing for X years are not the best ways to do things.

Well, I think it is just that people have taken the obvious applies-in-almost-every-case fact that pre-adolescents are mentally immature (can't see both sides to an argument, can't empathise or understand things, etc) a bit too far, and started applying it to everyone. I mean, I am smarter and wiser than some older people, and some younger people are, no doubt, even wiser than I am, so ignoring the instances when the rule doesn't apply just so that you can use the rule is stupid, if a rule no longer applies, it no longer applies, no matter how many times you close your eyes and go 'La-La-La-La I can't hear you!'.

This is exactly the problem. People going "La la la!!" seem to continue to use the rule that being young makes you foolish. If a rule is no longer true, why is it still such a big deal? Why the assumption with age?

 

[crystalsnow]

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Hm....This makes sense. I can understand age can sometimes equal an increase in skill, and that book reading is not quite the same as good old experience, but sometimes, experience is wrong, just as books are. Yet, at times it seems too often great skills have been gained because you have been doing one thing for X amount of years. Sometimes, habits that you have been doing for X years are not the best ways to do things.

Yes, great skills can be learned by repeating a task, and it certainly helps you understanding of not just the skill itself, but things related to it, which is what improves intelligence. And also, your right, experience and books can be wrong, which is why the greatest way to learn is to keep an open mind and not refuse to acknowledge an opposing argument.

I do better with different age groups. I know this, because all of my friends around my age don't play like I do. Yes, we have fun, and all that stuff, but it sometimes seems that things start to get out of hand, and revenge falls in. I play with some older, and sometimes younger people, and they seem to be more my style. Of course, I am an odd person, so I am not an accurate reading.

I'm exactly like you XD. People closer to your age, and ironically closer to your mindset can often be irritating since similarities lead to unexpected problems. Which is why sometimes, your greatest rival can make more sense and be easier to get along with than your greatest friend.