Well today my high school airsoft club was shut down due to "guns being violent" and "the dangerous nature of the game". I honestly cant think of any justification for this decision, games like football and lacrosse (of which my high school enthusiastically supports) are much more violent and dangerous then airsoft. Am I missing something or is my high school just really stupid?
Am I missing something, or is my school run by ignorant old people?
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I am on the "parents are insane, and will sue" side. If anything, parents with a lawyer in their holster are the reason public schools are going complete shit. Well, that's not the only reason, but it is a big factor. It's really sad. My high school sucked, but it was nowhere as bad as you kids have to go to now.
could be a reason, after some idiot went to a nearby highschool with pipe bombs and a chainsaw to try to kill some people (he got his ass handed to him by a teacher) my school now requires us all to wear I.Ds around our necks at all times, and if we don't we get detentionsMimssy said:
Obviously due to school violence and shootings. I don't agree with I.D tags, security guards and metal detectors at schools as these things pretty much destroy any chance of the school being an enjoyable place to learn, but you have to consider the worry that students walking around with guns would cause. Even with the orange tips airsoft guns can easily be mistaken for an actual gun and you really wouldn't want that to happen.
Is it my imagination or has the rash of school shootings correlated to bubble-wrap children and gotten worse and worse as the Helen Lovejoys have gotten shriller and shriller in their "won't someone please THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!" bitching?
I'm old enough to remember when kids resolving their differences with fisticuffs was standard operating procedure (got in more than a few scraps myself back then and learned how to fight the hard way---by getting the shit kicked out of me the first couple times). I also seem to remember that after a good slugfest and someone's mom or dad (because back then parents stayed married---shock!) saying "boys will be boys", we were all cool the next day.
I think these school shootings are what happens when you force pent-up aggression to get bottled up for too long. It's not natural, so kids snap and rat-a-tat-tat FUCK YOU HELEN LOVEJOY.
Correlation may not equal causation, but correlation sure does have a talent for saying "umm, OK, causation's right over there, I'm just gonna look this way while you go find it *whistle*" sometimes.
I'm old enough to remember when kids resolving their differences with fisticuffs was standard operating procedure (got in more than a few scraps myself back then and learned how to fight the hard way---by getting the shit kicked out of me the first couple times). I also seem to remember that after a good slugfest and someone's mom or dad (because back then parents stayed married---shock!) saying "boys will be boys", we were all cool the next day.
I think these school shootings are what happens when you force pent-up aggression to get bottled up for too long. It's not natural, so kids snap and rat-a-tat-tat FUCK YOU HELEN LOVEJOY.
Correlation may not equal causation, but correlation sure does have a talent for saying "umm, OK, causation's right over there, I'm just gonna look this way while you go find it *whistle*" sometimes.
We had laser-tag for a while, but they shut it down due to (and this really amused me) "Frenetic, sometimes terrifying combat action". That's what they wrote on the notice sent home, with an apology.
And never again were the bone chilling sounds of cheering and high-pitched giggling heard from the dark, ominous tag-field ever again.
I suppose I should be happy we got a cool sport for a while, at least, but it's hard not to feel annoyed.
Anyway, as you may have gathered from the sentiment I expressed just now, I feel that your school made a poor decision. I doubt that any of the more physical sports are somehow less violent. And Airsoft is really fun, too.
And never again were the bone chilling sounds of cheering and high-pitched giggling heard from the dark, ominous tag-field ever again.
I suppose I should be happy we got a cool sport for a while, at least, but it's hard not to feel annoyed.
Anyway, as you may have gathered from the sentiment I expressed just now, I feel that your school made a poor decision. I doubt that any of the more physical sports are somehow less violent. And Airsoft is really fun, too.
Ah yes. The modern day school. So politically correct and afraid of it's own shadow. This news does not surprise me. Although it does sicken me... severely.
just think. When it eventually get's to our generation. When we're running shit. We'll likely change things back after thousands of tightly wound bubble wrapped brats, gun down their friends whilst wearing to much make up and very tight pants and screaming 'This is what happens. You can't turn us into care bears!'
I just hope the lot that's currently in power don't screw shit up to bad in this area. 20 years and we may look back at these times and thing 'Damn. How did we put up with that?'
Here's hoping any-way.
just think. When it eventually get's to our generation. When we're running shit. We'll likely change things back after thousands of tightly wound bubble wrapped brats, gun down their friends whilst wearing to much make up and very tight pants and screaming 'This is what happens. You can't turn us into care bears!'
I just hope the lot that's currently in power don't screw shit up to bad in this area. 20 years and we may look back at these times and thing 'Damn. How did we put up with that?'
Here's hoping any-way.
Just have your airsoft club outside of the school. I'm not at all surprised that a school banned a game that's more or less a shootout simulation, even if I do think it's stupid.
Holy shit you had an airsoft club? I've never even heard of such a thing before. I would've thought such things would have been gotten rid of after Columbine. There's always some oversensitive ignorant people trying to ruin stuff due to unrelated issues the news has scared them into believing are going to kill their children.
Honestly that's just how school is. If you want an airsoft club, you'll just have to make one on your own time and not on the school's. That's how we always did it. We figured if we wanted rules our way, then we wouldn't run things via 'school club.' Instead we just had our airsoft clubs set up on our own time and that way we couldn't get in trouble for them because of any random regulation. (And nobody could get sued by the crazy helicopter parents for chipping a tooth.)
Bear in mind, schools and guns, or gun related anything, video games, movies etc. Just don't mix. And with school shootings and whatnot, I don't care if they want to take precautions. I've been in some nasty situations with students on campus with weapons. Hell one of the guys I went to school and used to run with became a murderer and is serving life. Point is, schools are paranoid about violence and I'm not going to say I blame them. Yeah there are very stringent rules, and hell some don't even make sense. But you're only in high school for 4 years out of your life, and it's not meant to be fun so, alas you'll just have to deal with it.
Bear in mind, schools and guns, or gun related anything, video games, movies etc. Just don't mix. And with school shootings and whatnot, I don't care if they want to take precautions. I've been in some nasty situations with students on campus with weapons. Hell one of the guys I went to school and used to run with became a murderer and is serving life. Point is, schools are paranoid about violence and I'm not going to say I blame them. Yeah there are very stringent rules, and hell some don't even make sense. But you're only in high school for 4 years out of your life, and it's not meant to be fun so, alas you'll just have to deal with it.
I was on the target rifle shooting team in my high school of nearly 4,000 in the middle of Corpus Christi, TX. Air rifles sure, but even that is a step up from air soft guns.Italian Stalion said:
It wasn't even that long ago that I attended high school and we had the same standards. Usual fare for fighting was to be sent home for the day.SimuLord said:
Main rule at my school was "if you're gonna fight, take it across the street to the park, don't do it on school grounds." You could've parked Joe Tessitore and Teddy Atlas at that park every day at two in the afternoon and put it on ESPN2.manaman said:
I'm sorry but while I don't fully agree with banning a club for a reason like that, I really don't think you can argue a point that airsoft is less violent that football or lacrosse. Sure they have more physical contact but no where in the general spirit of the game is one player supposed to have the intention of hurting another player, it's a game of I throw ball, pass player to player until 1 side scores. Granted you don't play airsoft with the intention of harming another player there is still the fact that you're wielding a "weapon" (albeit a fake weapon, it is still more weaponesque than anything in either lacrosse or football).
Also harm is really a relative thing, in almost every sport there is a degree of harm, hell I can argue that cheer-leading can cause more harm to a person than football.
Without knowing the details I'm going to assume the school is fairly afraid of the various libailites of a bunch of teens running around with airsoft guns on school grounds. I doubt the school has a proper place for airsofting where no passerby is going to get shot. Then they have to worry about some passerby reporting that kids are at a school wielding guns. Sorry, but Airsoft really isn't a school grounds activity, that is something you have to get in off grounds. Trust me I understand, I wanted to form a paintball club way back when I was in highschool and they flat out told me no way. I was able to just form unofficial club where I could post fliers or just spread that word that a bunch of people were meeting at X airfield on day Y for a day of paintballing.
Also harm is really a relative thing, in almost every sport there is a degree of harm, hell I can argue that cheer-leading can cause more harm to a person than football.
Without knowing the details I'm going to assume the school is fairly afraid of the various libailites of a bunch of teens running around with airsoft guns on school grounds. I doubt the school has a proper place for airsofting where no passerby is going to get shot. Then they have to worry about some passerby reporting that kids are at a school wielding guns. Sorry, but Airsoft really isn't a school grounds activity, that is something you have to get in off grounds. Trust me I understand, I wanted to form a paintball club way back when I was in highschool and they flat out told me no way. I was able to just form unofficial club where I could post fliers or just spread that word that a bunch of people were meeting at X airfield on day Y for a day of paintballing.
I recently came across an essay which goes into detail about 1: Why school sucks 2: why there are bullies 3: why the high school social structure greatly resembles one which forms within prisons.
Here's a link. http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html
Here's a link. http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html