Andrew Brown Jr

[Trunkage]

Reports are unclear at this time but someone else got shot by police

Andrew Brown Jr. was unarmed and fleeing when fatally shot by North Carolina police, family attorney says

Witness accounts paint a picture of the "unlawful, unjustified killing" of Andrew Brown Jr., the family's attorney said Thursday.

www.usatoday.com

I'm brining it up as there seems to be some weird occurrence here. There was definitely out of county police at the shooting trying to conduct a search warrant (and I'm unsure how many police from the county was there. Maybe none?.) Apparently the body was left for hours before being removed, which seems a long time. It was also maybe done during school pick up which seems dangerous. A judge authorised release of body cam footage so hopefully some it be become clearer.

 

[tippy2k2]

The video hasn't even been released yet and they've declared an emergency to deal with it.

This video is gonna be awful, isn't it?

 

[happyninja42]

The video hasn't even been released yet and they've declared an emergency to deal with it.

This video is gonna be awful, isn't it?

Very likely yes.

 

[Schadrach]

This video is gonna be awful, isn't it?

Wouldn't matter. If it's anything other than absolutely clearly and obviously a situation that would have involved the death of another civilian at the hands of the person shot then it's likely to end in riots.

 

[SilentPony]

I do wonder if declaring a state of emergency is just standard practice. The video could show anything, literally anything, and some people will start a riot just 'cause. and I mean white, black, men, women, someone will object to the video and want to smash something.

Having said that I'm sure the video is horrific and will cause another national uproar.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Unarmed person shot by police while running away? Yeah, the tape is going to show something awful, cause that's awful, despite being business as usual.

 

[tippy2k2]

I do wonder if declaring a state of emergency is just standard practice. The video could show anything, literally anything, and some people will start a riot just 'cause. and I mean white, black, men, women, someone will object to the video and want to smash something.

Having said that I'm sure the video is horrific and will cause another national uproar.

I've never heard of them preemptively calling a state of emergency but there are also so damn many of these events taking place now that it's not impossible that it's happened before...

 

[SilentPony]

I've never heard of them preemptively calling a state of emergency but there are also so damn many of these events taking place now that it's not impossible that it's happened before...

Oh, well: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-deba...ve-state-of-emergency-is-an-alarming-mistake/

Here in Missouri we do pre-emptive emergencies all the time. But like I've said before, its a literal police state here.

 

[Avnger]

I've never heard of them preemptively calling a state of emergency but there are also so damn many of these events taking place now that it's not impossible that it's happened before...

It's definitely happened a few times before now for evidence and verdict releases. Though, like you said, there's been so many at this point it's hard to remember which exactly.

 

[happyninja42]

I do wonder if declaring a state of emergency is just standard practice.

Pretty sure it's not, or if it is, it's only a recent development. They definitely don't declare SoE before every one of these, and we know, from the depressingly large number of times this very thing has happened, and they didn't declare SoE. I'm sure they've done it some times, and it can of course vary from state to state.

So it's either:

1. A VERY recent change due to current climate, which is entirely possible.
or
2. They know it's fucking bad, and given prior examples of reactions to blatant police brutality, they are trying to get ahead of it. This might backfire of course, since it's very clearly got us all thinking "well shit, it must be terrible if they're already declaring SoE" So it might be winding people up just from that expected result.

 

[Trunkage]

Unarmed person shot by police while running away? Yeah, the tape is going to show something awful, cause that's awful, despite being business as usual.

Remember when the NY police department banned shooting at people running away in the 70s.... and crime has reduced as well as police killings of suspects dropped by like 70%...

 

[Piscian]

Judge blocked the release of the video to the media this morning, fearing the cops involved would be viewed in an unfair light during the investigation and trial. They also dictated the police involved faces would be blurred during the familys viewing of the tape.

 

[Trunkage]

Judge blocked the release of the video to the media this morning, fearing the cops involved would be viewed in an unfair light during the investigation and trial. They also dictated the police involved faces would be blurred during the familys viewing of the tape.

Yeah, I had heard they werent being released. Is this going to be the future of trails of police shootings?

 

[tippy2k2]

Judge blocked the release of the video to the media this morning, fearing the cops involved would be viewed in an unfair light during the investigation and trial. They also dictated the police involved faces would be blurred during the familys viewing of the tape.

The Police have determined that videos of them gunning down black men would paint them in a unfair light as a group of people who just gun down black men. Therefore the video of the police gunning down black men will not be released to the public. We have determined watching the video that they did nothing wrong and no further need to investigate is required. Thank you for your cooperation.

-The Police Statement probably

 

[happyninja42]

Yeah, I had heard they werent being released. Is this going to be the future of trails of police shootings?

Given most of these are being tried on the state level, I think it will vary from case to case, and how strict they are on trying to actually hold cops accountable for their actions.

 

[Trunkage]

Given most of these are being tried on the state level, I think it will vary from case to case, and how strict they are on trying to actually hold cops accountable for their actions.

If they get away with this now, I dare say it's going to become common practice

 

[happyninja42]

If they get away with this now, I dare say it's going to become common practice

*shrugs* Each state can pass their own laws on whether or not body cam footage can be released to the public prior to a trial or not.

 

[Piscian]

This is definitely gonna be an interesting one. The investigation is already reaching the federal level. It's sounds like what the video is going to show is that a group of 4-10 cops in...pick up truck(s)? WTF? rolled up to serve two warrants. One to arrest him on drug dealing charges, which is unclear because it sounds like it's "alleged"? I guess they had witnesses to him selling drugs? The second warrant was to search his home for drugs. A CI had claimed he was dealing and there was apparently an expectation of finding a meth lab or some similar scale product dealing going on at his place. Something went wrong and they swisscheesed him in his car, he was unarmed.

I'm guessing he didn't immediately get out and surrender so they either drew guns or they accidently fired, he tries to pull away and thats went the mass firing started (just a guess)

At this time it's unclear if they actually searched his place, but it's been confirmed the cops have not received any evidence from his place so there's no proof at this point that he was dealing. The search warrant was canceled since he's dead.

Looks like it's gonna be another broena Taylor type deal. The cops got all excited and were planning a big drug bust.

Heres my conspiracy brain thought -

Ive watched too many David Ayer movies and I can't help but wonder how many of these are dirty cop raids. They squad in and stick'm up for cash and drugs already planning to evaporate the dealer, keep the money and say "look we found all these drugs, he was a bad guy so no need to investigate."

The Broena Taylor shooting reaks of it, plain clothed cops, after midnight on a hot tip. Hard not to imagine it was not a "job".

To be honest though if it was true it would be so easy to cover it up.

On a side note the drug in question was Meth.

Dear US government, I really don't give a fuck if people cook and sell meth, please find something better to do. It's only a violent crime because you're making it one.

 

[Trunkage]

*shrugs* Each state can pass their own laws on whether or not body cam footage can be released to the public prior to a trial or not.

I know they can. It's a question of should they be able to hide it

 

[Piscian]

aaaand to the surprise of no one

Prosecutor Says Deputies Were Justified In The Fatal Shooting Of Andrew Brown Jr.

Brown was shot and killed in his car by Pasquotank County, N.C., sheriff's deputies as they arrived to carry out warrants last month. His family called his death an "execution."

www.npr.org