I'm talking about psychological ones, such as the recent ones that prove that video game violence causes kids to go loopy. I mean has anything usefull gone out of them?
Are 'Studies' Useless?
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It's not the video games that make kids go "loopy" Its the fucking parents who let those kids play violent video games, and then make up an excuse so they won't be seen has "bad parents"
And yes they are useless. Parents buy the kids those "violent video games", if they let the kid play it it's their fault the kid will go apeshit on the TV/car/washer/room etc. Make parents understand that buying 18+ rated games for their kids is bad, and the world will be a better place.
And yes they are useless. Parents buy the kids those "violent video games", if they let the kid play it it's their fault the kid will go apeshit on the TV/car/washer/room etc. Make parents understand that buying 18+ rated games for their kids is bad, and the world will be a better place.
If they stop doing useless studies on video game effects then they themselfs would become useless to this earth and have to kill themselfs. Thats my study.
so by playing CoD4 i suddenly feel the urge to cut a bloody swathe of racist slaughter
or think i am a trained special op in the outback of russia?
errr
or think i am a trained special op in the outback of russia?
errr
Im highly influenced by videogames, i saw someone get shot in the face 57 times and live... so i tried it on a friend
If a kid goes nuts and kills someone, then it's not the game's fault, so I'd say that kind of study is crap.
Now your study is ready to be published.Shadow Law said:
Psychological studies? Useless? Are you kidding me? You're not familiar with the field are you?
True, some studies are bollocks with a side of chips and bollocks dip, but a well done study isn't. What about the studies that have shown that violent video games reduce the aggression in people?
True, some studies are bollocks with a side of chips and bollocks dip, but a well done study isn't. What about the studies that have shown that violent video games reduce the aggression in people?
I agree. Some studies are well done, some done with good intentions but flawed, and some are hatchet jobs bought and paid for. [sup]*[/sup] It's tough to sort out which is which, alas, unless you can go through the actual results of the study and know something about the field.DirkGently said:
Truth be told, this is a part of society that is badly served by the media... most reports are simply summaries of the results listed in the study's extract, and don't cover any of the actual merits or faults of the study itself. Real science reporting would help us in the public really understand which results were promissing, which were troubling, and which were mistaken.
-- Steve
[sup]*[/sup] The most notorious of the latter at the moment is the Wakefield study on vaccines and autism, now disproven [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090219.wlpicard19/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home] and facing accusations it was based on manipulated statistics [http://healthcare.zdnet.com/?p=1794].
Psychology is an inexact science, meaning there are many exceptions to the rules they put through, or it is just a statement that it can happen.
For anything useful, yes, they have given us a deeper insight into the mind, and how the new age of eletronic media could possibly effect the current generation. We have only had radio for 80 years, televison for 60, and the internet for roughly 15 years, and with the crazy-cool new graphics that are coming out for video games, the majority of the world is worried that it would cause a major psychotic break with the children and teenagers of today.
But we all know that won't happen, we are all civilized and educated people, and we can make out the line between right and wrong.
For anything useful, yes, they have given us a deeper insight into the mind, and how the new age of eletronic media could possibly effect the current generation. We have only had radio for 80 years, televison for 60, and the internet for roughly 15 years, and with the crazy-cool new graphics that are coming out for video games, the majority of the world is worried that it would cause a major psychotic break with the children and teenagers of today.
But we all know that won't happen, we are all civilized and educated people, and we can make out the line between right and wrong.
What? Studies are very, very useful, and no matter how much you like video games and don't want to hear anyone say anything against them, that doesn't change the fact that media is a major determining force (behind firsthand experience and the influence of personal contacts) in people's views of the world or that violent video games activate aggression centres in the brain.
Sure, there are plenty of studies with major problems - they've been funded by partisan special interests, they've been constructed or executed problematically, or their findings are misrepresented. Unfortunately, you not wanting to hear their conclusions doesn't make their conclusions any less valid.
Sure, there are plenty of studies with major problems - they've been funded by partisan special interests, they've been constructed or executed problematically, or their findings are misrepresented. Unfortunately, you not wanting to hear their conclusions doesn't make their conclusions any less valid.
If it is an in-depth study, whose results are then compared to many others relating to the similar topic, and could then be used to draw conclusions about something, then yes.
The problem is, studies are data. You don't draw conclusions from a single study. You can determine correlations, but little else by itself.
The problem is, studies are data. You don't draw conclusions from a single study. You can determine correlations, but little else by itself.
