Arnold....I am sad,

[Guy from the 80's]

When I was young, Arnold Swarzenegger was immortal. He was the like a god. He killed everyone, there is no way to describe Arnold to the kids today.

There are no one to pick up the torch, not even after Sylvester.

How do I embed this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-al8o-Zps4

There are no heroes like Arnold today, what Brad Pitt? There are no one.

 

[Alternative]

i embedded the video for you.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Don't worry, there is another:

Spoiler

Or if he's too old...

Spoiler

Although no one will ever replace Stallone's chin. That thing should have it's own mention in the credits of his films.

 

[Luna]

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Someone's jealous of Arnold's aesthetics...


Arnold was truly awesome. 80s action heroes were the best.

 

[Sean Hollyman]

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how awesome Liam Neeson is..

 

[HardkorSB]

Sure there are.
Dwayne Johnson or Jason Statham are just as good as action stars and they're better actors (especially Johnson).
The difference is that Arnold, besides making movies, was also a cultural phenomenon and a lot of that had to do with how easy it was to parody and make fun of him.
He also must have had a good agent, picking roles in movies that would later become cult classics (Terminator, Commando, Predator, Total Recall) but he had a lot of bad ones too.
Johnson seems to want to be more than just an action star so he does a lot of other stuff as well.
Statham however, is the real action star of the current generation. Just watch "Crank" or "The Transporter". I think that, in 10-20 years, people will look back at him in the same way that people look at some of the better action stars of the 80's and 90's now.
There's also Vin Diesel but the last movie I liked him in was "Chronicles of Riddick" and that was 8 years ago and the only thing keeping him in the spotlight right now is Fast and the Furious (which isn't all that great to begin with). There's another Riddick movie coming out soon so maybe that will change but still, he's rehashing a character from his past movies.

 

[Tyrant55]

As a bodybuilding fanatic, I must agree with you. While there may be people who surpass Arnold in the field of bodybuilding (Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath) there are none that succeed as well in the multiple areas of life that Arnold has. He may not be the best bodybuilder, he may not be the best actor, and he may not be the best politician, but considering all that he has accomplished in his life is truly inspiring.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Sure there are.
Dwayne Johnson or Jason Statham are just as good as action stars and they're better actors (especially Johnson).
The difference is that Arnold, besides making movies, was also a cultural phenomenon and a lot of that had to do with how easy it was to parody and make fun of him.
He also must have had a good agent, picking roles in movies that would later become cult classics (Terminator, Commando, Predator, Total Recall) but he had a lot of bad ones too.
Johnson seems to want to be more than just an action star so he does a lot of other stuff as well.
Statham however, is the real action star of the current generation. Just watch "Crank" or "The Transporter". I think that, in 10-20 years, people will look back at him in the same way that people look at some of the better action stars of the 80's and 90's now.
There's also Vin Diesel but the last movie I liked him in was "Chronicles of Riddick" and that was 8 years ago and the only thing keeping him in the spotlight right now is Fast and the Furious (which isn't all that great to begin with). There's another Riddick movie coming out soon so maybe that will change but still, he's rehashing a character from his past movies.

Agreed on all three of these fabulous action masters.

The trouble isn't that they just don't make action stars like they used to, but rather that they just don't make action movies like they used to.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Don't know much about the man do you?

Not much, no, and I don't know any more about him since you quoted me than I did before. If you would like to refute my points you are welcome to do so. However, perhaps you should refrain from quoting people if all you want to do is be snarky while providing no information or argument in your favour.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Don't know much about the man do you?

Not much, no, and I don't know any more about him since you quoted me than I did before. If you would like to refute my points you are welcome to do so. However, perhaps you should refrain from quoting people if all you want to do is be snarky while providing no information or argument in your favour.

Information was provided in an above post. Not only was he a world champion body builder for what...6 or so years in a row. He had a successful career in films (not to mention already back on some high profile releases like Expendables 2) he also had a career in Politics.

I don't think his career in politics is at all relevant to the OP. He does specifically mention "when I was young" and clearly refers to Arnold's movie career and body building when "he was like a god" and "he killed everyone".

That brings us to my second point that I don't believe body building is anything to be admired. It is largely impractical and aesthetically displeasing. Also, Schwarzenegger used to use steroids to achieve the muscle mass he had, which we now know to be very unhealthy and has become illegal. I hardly consider him a role model for this reason.

Finally, Schwarzenegger was a bad actor. He fit quite well in some of the roles he was given, but that's only because he was exclusively cast as an emotionless "badass", which I consider to be shallow and unimpressive.

Overall, there was nothing very admirable about Schwarzenegger's early career. I have no idea how he is doing in office but it bears no relevance to me and no relevance to this discussion.

 

[Timzilla]

I miss the days when movies could be like this:

 

[Bobic]

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Hey, not just any giant Austrian can deliver lines like these.


Edit: grrr, ninja, I should just post immediately upon entering a thread, avoid this sort of nuisance.

 

[Woodsey]

I dunno, I always thought Danny DeVito should have been the pregnant one.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I'd say The Rock has surpassed him, just based on his look and the range of performances that he's able to give.

Rock just simply hasn't had a franchise yet to really solidify him in hollywood. Rock needs his own Terminator.

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Hey man, would Terminator 2 had been better with anyone other then Arnold in that role? No one else would of been able to pull of that performance and still remain likeable and cool.

Arnold Swarzenegger was just a bad actor with large muscles. Why would I want to show a roided up freak to children.

Don't know much about the man do you?

Not much, no, and I don't know any more about him since you quoted me than I did before. If you would like to refute my points you are welcome to do so. However, perhaps you should refrain from quoting people if all you want to do is be snarky while providing no information or argument in your favour.

Information was provided in an above post. Not only was he a world champion body builder for what...6 or so years in a row. He had a successful career in films (not to mention already back on some high profile releases like Expendables 2) he also had a career in Politics.

I don't think his career in politics is at all relevant to the OP. He does specifically mention "when I was young" and clearly refers to Arnold's movie career and body building when "he was like a god" and "he killed everyone".

That brings us to my second point that I don't believe body building is anything to be admired. It is largely impractical and aesthetically displeasing. Also, Schwarzenegger used to use steroids to achieve the muscle mass he had, which we now know to be very unhealthy and has become illegal. I hardly consider him a role model for this reason.

Finally, Schwarzenegger was a bad actor. He fit quite well in some of the roles he was given, but that's only because he was exclusively cast as an emotionless "badass", which I consider to be shallow and unimpressive.

Overall, there was nothing very admirable about Schwarzenegger's early career. I have no idea how he is doing in office but it bears no relevance to me and no relevance to this discussion.

So he's bad actor for taking roles he's good at? I'm sorry do you think it's shallow or unimpressive for someone that's good at baseball to try and play it professionally? Or someone that's good at crunching numbers to be an accountant? You're right, lets all not play to our strengths.

To Arnold's credit, he did at least try to do roles outside of his ability. I thought The Sixth Day was one of his better performances... Also Batman Forever, cause you can just watch that flick and know Arnold is having a blast doing all those lame puns. Guy gives each role his all.

So he can't be a role model because he use steroids? Uh... so what? He's an adult and he made the choice that he wanted to get bigger then what was physically possible for him with out them. It's not like he was shoving them down the throats of little children... Unless your saying he shouldn't be a role model simply because the government declared them illegal, which is just as silly of a reason. Suddenly the government's our barometer of morality.

 

[manic_depressive13]

You don't have to like the look of body builders and even with steroids gaining that much mass is incredibly hard both physically and mentally. Anyone who is trying to gain muscle can admire Arnie for what he did. Before Arnies time, body buildings were basically seen as muscular morons. Shunned in society for body building. Arnie brought that into the media, he made it mainstream and made it acceptable for people who were 110kg of Pure muscle to walk around a beach shirtless or anywhere. Watch Pumping Iron to get a better sense of what I'm saying.

I don't think being difficult alone makes something a worthy vocation. Having that much muscle is not healthy, nor is it necessary or practical in any way. While I don't think all body builders are stupid, they certainly have a stupid hobby/ job and I don't see how normalising it is anything spectacular.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

You don't have to like the look of body builders and even with steroids gaining that much mass is incredibly hard both physically and mentally. Anyone who is trying to gain muscle can admire Arnie for what he did. Before Arnies time, body buildings were basically seen as muscular morons. Shunned in society for body building. Arnie brought that into the media, he made it mainstream and made it acceptable for people who were 110kg of Pure muscle to walk around a beach shirtless or anywhere. Watch Pumping Iron to get a better sense of what I'm saying.

I don't think being difficult alone makes something a worthy vocation. Having that much muscle is not healthy, nor is it necessary or practical in any way. While I don't think all body builders are stupid, they certainly have a stupid hobby/ job and I don't see how normalising it is anything spectacular.

I mean if you look at it that way, what vocation/hobby isn't (i won't say stupid) silly?

If one chooses to make video games, for example, one is looking at a future of crunch times and many-a-night away from love ones sleeping on a cot in the office to meet deadlines and the possibly of being forced to release a game thats not ready to be released and gets bad reviews.

Hell, look at wrestling... guys putting their bodies under unneeded stress in a sport thats not even real... only exist to tell a story, in a world where there are other mediums to tell stories that are far less stressful on the body.

Finally, what moron would want to be president of the united states? Remember when Obama was elected into office how young he looked? Guy has aged two decades in 4 years. If you look at George Bush, same thing. That job is so stressful it ages a person like a ************, who would want it?