Avengers: Age of Ultron: It's pretty fucking awesome

[Bob_McMillan]

Being a dirty Asian, I got to watch Avengers 2 early because Marvel decided to preempt our pirating tendencies and released AoU like 9 days before you Western scrubs.

Anyway, if you are wondering whether the film is good enough to warrant waiting in lines and braving sticky theater floors, yes, it most certainly is.

This is the most action packed Marvel film yet. Every single minute of the movie will give you nerd orgasms, and even the cheesiest lines will make you smile. It felt like Marvel knows that they can do whatever the hell they want and it will still be amazing.

It also really shows how far Marvel has come from Iron Man. One of the biggest ways this is shown in the film is how many "cameos" there are from side characters. I guess Marvel needed to find a place to put all the money that was clogging up the plumbing. Seriously, with the amount of actors from all the other Marvel movies who aren't Avengers, you could make three of four movies.

The only complaint I really have is the pacing. It's not that great, but not horrible either.

In conclusion, while the movie won't have that Avengers 1 feel, where we are all amazed how all these heroes have come together, it's better in many ways than the original.

 

[Evonisia]

"and even the cheesiest lines will make you smile"

Well I certainly hope so, being so damn cheesy is what makes me love Captain America. But I'm looking forward to seeing Age of Ultron and I'm unsurprised people like it. I need it after being so thoroughly let down by Guardians of the Galaxy and pre-Thor Phase 1.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

"and even the cheesiest lines will make you smile"

Well I certainly hope so, being so damn cheesy is what makes me love Captain America. But I'm looking forward to seeing Age of Ultron and I'm unsurprised people like it. I need it after being so thoroughly let down by Guardians of the Galaxy and pre-Thor Phase 1.

You didn't like GotG? It wasn't the best film ever for me, and I couldn't really see why everyone was tripping over themselves to praise it, but I found it enjoyable enough.

 

[Evonisia]

Snip.

I kinda liked it, I suppose. I thought it was good despite not thinking fondly of it. I found it to be even more shallow than most of the other films in the MCU whilst not living up to them in terms of the action or characters.

My main issue is the main character. They try to establish him as a loveable rogue type, but to me he just comes off as an asshole, especially so for that bit at the beginning. The film's insistence of bringing that back up and pushing the power of friendship message came off as terribly misplaced given how much of an unlikeable bellend of a protagonist it has.

I like it more than Iron Man 1, which bored me so I had to watch it in two chunks (it's the only MCU film I dislike). But I even prefer The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 to it.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I thought it was okay. Fun, fast-paced, action-packed. But: story goes nowhere, every character is basically flattened into being good old quippy Tony Stark, villain is a disappointment (Spader sounds great, but the character is just another Saturday morning cartoon monologuer: unintimidating, ineffective, another mediocre Marvel villain like the guy from Thor 2 or the guy from GotG), and overall it feels like Marvel is just gasping for air with AoU so it can stretch the franchise a little more. It feels less like a movie on its own right and more like a season finale. Which I guess it is, in a way, what with the whole "phase" scheme.

 

[McElroy]

Yeah, saw it today as well. I'm just gonna spoil everything now:

Spoiler

It's decent overall with a great second act with the meaningful fights before the villain and his drones get reduced to one big joke. Quicky is quippy and kinda fun, but Wanda is just angsty-wangsty to the Maximoff. Nat's and Banner's little arc is almost a little touching but that's it - I think they could've given more focus to Ultron instead. I disagree with Johnny that Ultron is unintimidating - it was the only character I wanted to see on screen from the first appearance to the last, because of the absurd bouts of humor as well as violence - but ineffective he certainly was. The final fight... it's nothing, it's over in seconds. Oh boy the jokes just kept coming and coming, almost all of them pointless just for the sake of it. Somehow Cap has become a total fucking terminator between Winter Soldier and this, though they kept nerfing the Uldrones as the battles went on. Feels like dick-waving to me especially the thrid act (and the first was just kinda boring). Unfortunately they can do it without much trouble. And as always the 3D is a complete waste.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Yeah, saw it today as well. I'm just gonna spoil everything now:

Spoiler

It's decent overall with a great second act with the meaningful fights before the villain and his drones get reduced to one big joke. Quicky is quippy and kinda fun, but Wanda is just angsty-wangsty to the Maximoff. Nat's and Banner's little arc is almost a little touching but that's it - I think they could've given more focus to Ultron instead. I disagree with Johnny that Ultron is unintimidating - it was the only character I wanted to see on screen from the first appearance to the last, because of the absurd bouts of humor as well as violence - but ineffective he certainly was. The final fight... it's nothing, it's over in seconds. Oh boy the jokes just kept coming and coming, almost all of them pointless just for the sake of it. Somehow Cap has become a total fucking terminator between Winter Soldier and this, though they kept nerfing the Uldrones as the battles went on. Feels like dick-waving to me especially the thrid act (and the first was just kinda boring). Unfortunately they can do it without much trouble. And as always the 3D is a complete waste.

I think Ultron starts out intimidating, Spader does a great job with the voice - charming, suave - and his intro is suitably creepy. But nothing he ever does afterwards in the movie lives up to his introduction. And the whole inevitability-of-human-extinction shtick bored me to tears. He's not a character, he's a device, something annoying that must be overcome for the sake of an arc.

 

[FPLOON]

Okay... So, I'm going to be seeing this with a friend who hasn't seen any of the Captain America movies and doesn't plan to at this point in time... Should I spoil The Winter Soldier for him before we go see Age of Ultron? Or, better yet, is spoiling The Winter Soldier even worth it in the first place in relation to Age of Ultron?

Other than that, it sounds like people would like this movie if they already like the MCU at this point...

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Okay... So, I'm going to be seeing this with a friend who hasn't seen any of the Captain America movies and doesn't plan to at this point in time... Should I spoil The Winter Soldier for him before we go see Age of Ultron? Or, better yet, is spoiling The Winter Soldier even worth it in the first place in relation to Age of Ultron?

Other than that, it sounds like people would like this movie if they already like the MCU at this point...

He will find out anyway. Unless he doesn't really pay attention to the movie or, knows nothing about the Marvel Universe.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Okay... So, I'm going to be seeing this with a friend who hasn't seen any of the Captain America movies and doesn't plan to at this point in time... Should I spoil The Winter Soldier for him before we go see Age of Ultron? Or, better yet, is spoiling The Winter Soldier even worth it in the first place in relation to Age of Ultron?

Other than that, it sounds like people would like this movie if they already like the MCU at this point...

Besides Mackie's Falcon (he has a couple of cameos), the only thing that carries over from Winter Soldier is that...

Spoiler

... SHIELD was filthy. Except it doesn't really matter, Fury and the other blokes are still around calling the Avengers' shots and otherwise keeping in support mode with helicarriers and all that. So there're a few references to SHIELD's fuck-up, but they have no impact on the plot. Also, the movie begins with the Avengers fighting Baron von Post-Credits from Winter Soldier, but it doesn't matter if you knew about him from before or not.

Overall, no, no need to spoil Winter Soldier.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Just come back from seeing it. What you on about? Is the UK not western now?
It was good fun really. Ultron was ultimately disappointing though. I thought he would have put up more of a challenge, but oh well. I welcome Th...errr...nothing?

 

[FPLOON]

He will find out anyway. Unless he doesn't really pay attention to the movie or, knows nothing about the Marvel Universe.

Well, he's only seen all of the Iron Man movies, The Avengers, and Guardians of the Galaxy with me and my best friend... For the most part, outside of Iron Man and the Guardians, he's pretty indifferent to everything else MCU-related...

Overall, no, no need to spoil Winter Soldier.

Cool beans!

Thank you both for answering my question...

 

[ExDeath730]

I just watched it, and...Look, the movie is great, really awesome, with funny moments, great action, it's what is expected, but...It feels more of the same...I don't know how to put it, maybe it's that the third act, for me at least felt weak (even if i liked how it was basically a jab to Man of Steel), but the first one is better. Even if the audience ended up clapping, when getting out of the Theater, i could hear a lot of people thinking the same, so i don't know...

I remember that there was a topic about who would make more money, if it was Star Wars or Avengers 2 and i voted Avengers 2...Look, before the movie, they showed the second Star Wars trailer...People got crazy, at the ending, there was howling, clapping, all that stuff...Let me just say that the reaction was warmer than the ending of the movie. What i'm trying to say is...If Star Wars is a better movie, it will make more money, and it's not that hard to be a better movie.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Spoiler

Quicksilver's death felt way too forced. The movie previously emphasises his ability to save people from oncoming danger and then he's killed by an oncoming danger while saving someone.

 

[Plinglebob]

Spoiler

The feeling that I get when I think back on this film is fatigue, primarily in relation to the 1st half. Its a case of watching characters we've seen before do the things we've seen them do before and before the large shift in focus after the hulkbuster scene I was ready to give up. Then they remembered people exist who arn't Robert Downey Jr and the film picked up immensely. They gave us both new characters as well as fleshed out those we haven't had much exposure too and it felt like a whole new film. Iron Man's back in Civil War and Thor has one more film, but after that I hope they "retire" the characters outside cameos/Big team ups as an Avengers film with Warmachine, Falcon, The Vision and Scarlett Witch would be more interesting then seeing them again.

Finally, Paul Bettany can act anyone off the screen whether he's just a voice or naked and purple.

 

[laggyteabag]

Oh yeah, I just remembered that the film is out in the UK today, too. I should probably go and see that at some point *calls best friend*

 

[V TheSystem V]

The film was amazing, and I expected no less. Something that I'm a bit unsure about, though:

Spoiler

At the end, they say that something was pulling the strings in the background, which, obviously, was Thanos. But was he really responsible for Ultron? I may have missed something, but from what I gathered, Ultron was all Tony

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

The film was amazing, and I expected no less. Something that I'm a bit unsure about, though:

Spoiler

At the end, they say that something was pulling the strings in the background, which, obviously, was Thanos. But was he really responsible for Ultron? I may have missed something, but from what I gathered, Ultron was all Tony

And Banner, strictly speaking.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Spoiler

Quicksilver's death felt way too forced. The movie previously emphasises his ability to save people from oncoming danger and then he's killed by an oncoming danger while saving someone.

From what I've read the actor agreed to the role on the condition that he would only have to do it once. Smart man.