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-Drifter-

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Of all the villains from Disney's many animated films, which one would you say is the "best" and why?

Personally I'd say Frollo. Partly due to his awesome voice, but also because he's a little more three dimensional than your average bad guy. Rather than just being flat out evil, he's extremely self-righteous and truly believes that he's doing God's work.

[sub]Plus, he has the best song.[/sub]​
 

BlumiereBleck

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That british fellow from the Pirates films. You know, the one who is immune to splinters.


EDIT: Scar because Mr. Irons.
 

Zhadramekel

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Partly out of a lack of creativity on my part and cos I just love the Lion King anyway. Scar, he's awesome.
 

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From the Disney films I've seen:

Lion King: Scar did well, seeing as he managed to get what he wanted (briefly)
Robin Hood: Prince John had a lot of humour with his misfortune
Beauty and the Beast: Gaston was well made to be a monster on the inside in contrast to the Beast, who was only a monster on the outside
Aladdin: Jafar was good because he was smart and deceitful in his plans
 

Casual Shinji

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Fucking Monstro the whale from Pinocchio.

He's the size of Godzilla and has the mentality of an axe murderer.


Old-school Disney was creepy as fuck.
 

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Scar, just because if any lion could pull off a smoking jacket while he reveals his evil plans it would be him.
 

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I'd say Mother Gothel from Tangled. She's an extremely complex character and while what she did was definitely a terrible thing, it wasn't a simple situation at all (like it usually is with Disney villains).

First off, she was an addict. I mean, keeping yourself alive unnaturally for 400 years is bound to mess anyone up to some extent. But then taking away that thing you've come to depend on for so long, which you'll die without? Well, I can't say what she did was understandable exactly, but it's certainly not as simple as "I want all the power!!!"

Next, let's look at her options regarding Rapunzel.
1. Cut off some of Rapunzel's hair and use that. This is what she tried to do first; it's simple and it doesn't hurt anyone. Unfortunately, it didn't work.
2. Raise Rapunzel as her own daughter. Obviously she was too vain and manipulative to do a great job at this, but she did seem to care for her as much as she could care for anyone.
3. Keep Rapunzel completely locked up and never allow her even the smallest pleasure. This was what she felt forced to do at the end, though she clearly didn't want to. It was Rapunzel's promise that they could be a family again, like old times, that got her to grant her final request to heal Flynn.

She really didn't want to hurt Rapunzel, so she only did what she felt she had to. Plus, she provided Rapunzel with tons of books, paints, games, pretty much everything she could ever want (besides freedom), made her favorite food when she was sad, and was even willing to go on a 3 day journey to bring Rapunzel back some paint she wanted.

As for the love the two of them felt for each other, it could be explained as combination Stockholm and Lima Syndrome. But it was there regardless. Which actually made Mother Gothel even scarier; that moment where she looks down at Rapunzel all chained up and curls her lip was just...chilling.

Toward the end, when she's explaining to Rapunzel how cruel the world is, she really seems to mean it. Either she hates herself for what she's doing or she herself was badly hurt at some point, which has continued to affect her. Either way, it's an interesting character note.

All in all, she's a great example of a "grey" villain. And also teaches kids a very important lesson that they don't hear often: sometimes the people you should be the most wary of are the ones you trust the most. It's one thing to learn that strangers could hurt you, but quite another to learn that someone you love may not have your best interests at heart.

Plus, when she says "I just listened for the sound of complete and utter betrayal, and followed that" she sounds just like GLaDOS. Tell me that's not awesome.

Scar was an excellent mustache-twirler. Everyone else, meh.
 

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-Drifter- said:
Of all the villains from Disney's many animated films, which one would you say is the "best" and why?

Personally I'd say Frollo. Partly due to his awesome voice, but also because he's a little more three dimensional than your average bad guy. Rather than just being flat out evil, he's extremely self-righteous and truly believes that he's doing God's work.

[sub]Plus, he has the best song.[/sub]​
Pretty much quoting to alert you, but has someone been watching nostalgia critic? :p

I'm going to say randall. Because he was a lizard, he could turn invisible...he was purple...and monsters inc was kinda one of the only animated disney films I liked. What? Don't look at me like that, I find most disney stuff terribly smaltzy, and yet, some of their films did scar me a little at the same time. Seriously, what the f*** were the pink elephants about? I have been very, very drunk in my time (mostly in the past month since arriving at uni) and I ain't never seen no pink elephants. So why the mindf*** disney? Were you trying to scare kids away from alcohol?

Anyway, if I were to venture outside of animated disney, it's gotta be Captain barbossa from pirates of the carribean. Sure, he's not a villain in the later films, but damn was he badass. He gets some of the best lines (ya best start believin' in ghost stories miss turner, you're in one!), he's brilliantly menacing, and he has a monkey. Even as a good guy, you didn't get this complete change of character you sometimes get when villains switch sides. He was still effectively out for himself, would still go to evil means to get what he wants, and still pretty much hated jack.
 

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Hades from Hercules. He's James Woods, he's hilarious, he smokes cigars (at one point, briefly) and he's fucking HADES!!
 

AbstractStream

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3 way tie for me between Maleficient, Scar, and Hades.

Maleficient is downright wicked, Scar is ambitious as hell, and Hades...well Hades is the ruler of the Underworld! Come on!
 

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disney animated: frollo, the only villian that was 3 dimensional, without being a coward
disney live: barbossa, no comment
Pixar: Syndrome, fan boys gone mad
Ghibli (owned by disney): Americans in grave of the firefly, cause they werent in the movie, but were the cause of the problems in it
 

RJ Dalton

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band43seat said:
Ghibli (owned by disney)
Ghibli is an independent studio. Their films are *licenced* for distribution in America by Disney because of the international region encoding scam.