BioWare should get into the MMO game

[Zing]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

 

[Zing]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

 

[FalloutJack]

Nope, sorry. I mean, they could try it, but I don't think it would help. You see, Blizzard already has the entire world in its grip, Morpheus, and it'll take more than The One to break them out of it. More like...a miracle of modern science or possibly EVERYTHING that happened in the 2012 movie.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Fantasy MMOs suck. They're never going to get better than World Of Warcraft. The Old Republic is original, at least.
And Star Wars aren't dead, even if you hated the prequels, this game has nothing to do with them.
There was one Star Wars MMO (Galaxies) and it was allright.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Umm why? You don't fuck with the big dogs. They would be taking a unnecessary risk seeing as how most MMO players play WoW not because it is the best but because everyone else plays it.
Plus Bioware makes good games with fantastic stories. MMO don't really do awesome storylines. They would be wasting their time.

Umm, The Old Republic again? An MMO the main feature of which is its storyline?
Sorry for whoring this game out, but when talking about Bioware MMOs, people have no tight to leave out TOR.

 

[Zing]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Fantasy MMOs suck. They're never going to get better than World Of Warcraft. The Old Republic is original, at least.
And Star Wars aren't dead, even if you hated the prequels, this game has nothing to do with them.
There was one Star Wars MMO (Galaxies) and it was allright.

The game is called Star Wars. The Old Republic. Of course it isn't based around the movies or anything, but its set in the same universe, and I'm so very over it. Fantasy is a much better genre for MMO's.

You're right so far about nothing rivaling WoW. Doesn't mean it can't be done. Despite not being an MMO, Dragon Age brought me back to how I felt when I first started playing Wow in 2005, except being much more immersive storyline-wise.

Umm why? You don't fuck with the big dogs. They would be taking a unnecessary risk seeing as how most MMO players play WoW not because it is the best but because everyone else plays it.
Plus Bioware makes good games with fantastic stories. MMO don't really do awesome storylines. They would be wasting their time.

That's silly, just because wow or another MMO hasn't done awesome storylines doesn't mean it doesn't work. And wow did actually do amazing storylines, but on a much larger scope, not really personable to the player. Aion, although being a terrible game in the long run did cutscenes and made the starting areas very unique.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Umm, The Old Republic again? An MMO the main feature of which is its storyline?
Sorry for whoring this game out, but when talking about Bioware MMOs, people have no tight to leave out TOR.

Yeah and heres the reason we keep ignoring it.
1) It will suck.
2) It will fail. Hard.
3) Well, I do not actually have a #3 but am annoyed at being quoted for no reason. So let me reiterate. It will fail and suck. Hard.

And you know that becaaaauuuuse... It's BioWare for frak sake, BioWare. Do you really think they'll screw up ány type of RPG, be it an MMO or a singleplayer one?

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Fantasy MMOs suck. They're never going to get better than World Of Warcraft. The Old Republic is original, at least.
And Star Wars aren't dead, even if you hated the prequels, this game has nothing to do with them.
There was one Star Wars MMO (Galaxies) and it was allright.

The game is called Star Wars. The Old Republic. Of course it isn't based around the movies or anything, but its set in the same universe, and I'm so very over it. Fantasy is a much better genre for MMO's.

You're right so far about nothing rivaling WoW. Doesn't mean it can't be done. Despite not being an MMO, Dragon Age brought me back to how I felt when I first started playing Wow in 2005, except being much more immersive storyline-wise.
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I don't know about that, fantasy is just so stale.
I think that they need to discover better MMO settings.

 

[Zing]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Fantasy MMOs suck. They're never going to get better than World Of Warcraft. The Old Republic is original, at least.
And Star Wars aren't dead, even if you hated the prequels, this game has nothing to do with them.
There was one Star Wars MMO (Galaxies) and it was allright.

The game is called Star Wars. The Old Republic. Of course it isn't based around the movies or anything, but its set in the same universe, and I'm so very over it. Fantasy is a much better genre for MMO's.

You're right so far about nothing rivaling WoW. Doesn't mean it can't be done. Despite not being an MMO, Dragon Age brought me back to how I felt when I first started playing Wow in 2005, except being much more immersive storyline-wise.
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I don't know about that, fantasy is just so stale.
I think that they need to discover better MMO settings.

Galaxy of Starcraft, eh eh?

Only Blizzard can kill their own game. sad.

I thought the same about Fantasy until Dragon Age came along, that game shows you how incredible Fantasy can be, even if you're still reusing Elves, Dwarves, Humans etc.

 

[Doug]

Nope, sorry. I mean, they could try it, but I don't think it would help. You see, Blizzard already has the entire world in its grip, Morpheus, and it'll take more than The One to break them out of it. More like...a miracle of modern science or possibly EVERYTHING that happened in the 2012 movie.

LASERS! Don't ask me how, but that is the answer!

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I thought the same about Fantasy until Dragon Age came along, that game shows you how incredible Fantasy can be, even if you're still reusing Elves, Dwarves, Humans etc.

I gotta play that some time, I'm a moderate Bioware fan.
Still, I don't know why you people dislike The Old Republic (I am too lasy to mention the Star Wars part of the title). It looks like Kotor online and I like Kotor a lot.

 

[Archetypal_Maniac]

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Another fantasy MMO to add to the pile? Star Wars is a huge franchise with a hefty fan base. MMO's are extremely popular within the pc community. Bioware are renowned for making RPG's. I think you can do the math here, Bioware should have made Warhammer instead of letting an amateur company like Mythic vomit up a half arsed WoW clone.

These huge MMO's are a pretty new introduction to main-stream gaming and there is still a lot of exploration to be had, another fantasy game straped to a high rolling intellectual property is the last thing Bioware are gunna want to put 5 years and a sack load of cash into. Not to say Star Wars is a bad choice but I think it will be the same deal as every other MMO, you won't know if it's any good until you play it for a few months.

My advice is not to give into the hype, I made that mistake with Warhammer Online, they'll tell you about all the fancy whistles and bells that you think you want and then we soak it up like we are spongians from the planet gullabus.

 

[elricik]

Star Wars the Old Republic is going to revolutionize the way we look at MMOs, just like Bioware has revolutionized the RPG genre with every new game they release. Frankly, WOW is getting rather boring, and I am looking forward to finally retiring my Paladin, to finally be able to play as a Jedi Knight in a Star Wars online game that doesn't suck.

 

[Zing]

Star Wars the Old Republic is going to revolutionize the way we look at MMOs, just like Bioware has revolutionized the RPG genre with every new game they release. Frankly, WOW is getting rather boring, and I am looking forward to finally retiring my Paladin, to finally be able to play as a Jedi Knight in a Star Wars online game that doesn't suck.

I doubt that, but maybe, we'll see.

And yes, wow is incredibly boring at the moment, then again I've been playing since the beginning so that's probably why. The expansion should be good for a few months at least though.

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Another fantasy MMO to add to the pile? Star Wars is a huge franchise with a hefty fan base. MMO's are extremely popular within the pc community. Bioware are renowned for making RPG's. I think you can do the math here, Bioware should have made Warhammer instead of letting an amateur company like Mythic vomit up a half arsed WoW clone.

These huge MMO's are a pretty new introduction to main-stream gaming and there is still a lot of exploration to be had, another fantasy game straped to a high rolling intellectual property is the last thing Bioware are gunna want to put 5 years and a sack load of cash into. Not to say Star Wars is a bad choice but I think it will be the same deal as every other MMO, you won't know if it's any good until you play it for a few months.

My advice is not to give into the hype, I made that mistake with Warhammer Online, they'll tell you about all the fancy whistles and bells that you think you want and then we soak it up like we are spongians from the planet gullabus.

Hype of what game exactly? I don't really have any desire to play an MMO coming out soon, I still keep an ear to the ground in case something good comes along.

I don't think there's anything wrong with using fantasy. If something isn't broken, don't bother trying to fix it, imo. I think games could start inventing new races and stories other then dwarves and elves etc. But the whole Swords, Steel and Magic thing is proven to work and is still a ton of fun.

 

[Fire Daemon]

I'm really looking forward to SW:TOR. I love everything that Bioware has made (even Jade Empire although I don't own it D and I'm sure that this'll be another great title. I'm glad that they took the Star Wars route rather than fantasy. You know that a fantasy game will be overshadowed by WoW and two of them, Conan and Warhammer, came out last year. A Star Wars game can stand out from WoW as a different experience. It probably wont do better than WoW but there really needs to be a game to challenge to WoW, both for Blizzard's sake and everyone else.

 

[Archetypal_Maniac]

Star Wars the Old Republic is going to revolutionize the way we look at MMOs, just like Bioware has revolutionized the RPG genre with every new game they release. Frankly, WOW is getting rather boring, and I am looking forward to finally retiring my Paladin, to finally be able to play as a Jedi Knight in a Star Wars online game that doesn't suck.

I doubt that, but maybe, we'll see.

And yes, wow is incredibly boring at the moment, then again I've been playing since the beginning so that's probably why. The expansion should be good for a few months at least though.

I think if any developer were going to give Blizzard a run for it's money it would be BioWare. They're kind of the kings of RPG at the moment. And they've been doing it successfully for a long time now. I'm kinda surprised they haven't already. I'd certainly play it.

Umm, The Old Republic?

Oh derp, Fair enough I guess. I guess I should have been more clear. I was mostly referring to a fantasy MMO. I find Star Wars MMO's to be pretty stale, beating a dead horse etc.

Another fantasy MMO to add to the pile? Star Wars is a huge franchise with a hefty fan base. MMO's are extremely popular within the pc community. Bioware are renowned for making RPG's. I think you can do the math here, Bioware should have made Warhammer instead of letting an amateur company like Mythic vomit up a half arsed WoW clone.

These huge MMO's are a pretty new introduction to main-stream gaming and there is still a lot of exploration to be had, another fantasy game straped to a high rolling intellectual property is the last thing Bioware are gunna want to put 5 years and a sack load of cash into. Not to say Star Wars is a bad choice but I think it will be the same deal as every other MMO, you won't know if it's any good until you play it for a few months.

My advice is not to give into the hype, I made that mistake with Warhammer Online, they'll tell you about all the fancy whistles and bells that you think you want and then we soak it up like we are spongians from the planet gullabus.

Hype of what game exactly? I don't really have any desire to play an MMO coming out soon, I still keep an ear to the ground in case something good comes along.

I don't think there's anything wrong with using fantasy. If something isn't broken, don't bother trying to fix it, imo. I think games could start inventing new races and stories other then dwarves and elves etc. But the whole Swords, Steel and Magic thing is proven to work and is still a ton of fun.

Well you spoke of Bioware making a fantasy game, so...if they announced they are making one I am sure you would be interested in what they had to offer no? I think you missed my point however I wasn't refering to specific games more of games in general, in this case MMOs.

I agree with you that nothing is wrong with fantasy, in fact I happen to enjoy it a lot and I am currently slashing through my second play through of Dragon Age. The fantasy concept is fine but the way in which it is presented is recycled and so is the way the MMO's are made. If it ain't broke don't fix it is quite true but I don't want to pay monthly for a "safety game" and I think that is what we will get if Bioware tossed their chips into the fantasy pile. Just my opinion on that.

Inventing new races? ok here goes: Rugalians - Shamanistic Archetype + Tribal Archetype + Honourable Archetype. Ok we make them look like walking bird people = MY NEW JOB AS A GAMES DESIGNER! yaaaysies. I think we need more than new races, theres got to be something more and whether or not Bioware can produce this remains to be seen until the release of The old republic.