Bleach: oi vay

[Post Tenebrae Morte]

Anyone else keeping up with bleach currently? I've been reading it to see how it ends, like I did with naruto, and am in no way impressed or enthralled with it. Literally, in the latest chapter, the big bad villain grows two more pupils (reminding me of the eye hacks in naruto) and essentially states that his power as, A - The Almighty, allows him to see, counter, know, and understand all powers that may be used against him, along with making said powers his to control.

The series has literally downgraded to a bunch of ten year olds yelling that they are more powerful than the other.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well after you do god form Aizen and uber god form Ichigo to counter the god form... you really screw your lore for all eternity. And even the god form stuff was dull as balls.

This is why you end series when they are strong, shit can't go on the same forever.

 

[Kopikatsu]

I find it morbidly amusing that one of the most powerful abilities thus far in the Bleach universe (The Almighty) is basically just the Sharingan from Naruto.

However, it doesn't look like he grew two pupils. Instead, it looks like his eyes are moving so quickly that it appears he has multiple. Madara did a similar thing while fighting the Allied Shinobi Army.

 

[ItouKaiji]

Yup, this was quite possibly the worst fight in Bleach. Ink Guy did nothing the entire battle but splatter ink around and scream that his powers are definitely super special awesome which I assume is how Kubo draws and writes Bleach.

Meanwhile Bach stand there and goes "nope" every time Ink Guy thinks he's done something. Bach is like that kid on the school yard that has an everything proof shield..that kid is never any fun.

The only fight that was close to being this bad was Kenpachi vs Imagination Boy which was just a fucking horrible matchup from the start. The problem is Kubo has to make everyone so overpowered that they either use their power like idiots or a big asspull is needed to defeat them.

 

[Post Tenebrae Morte]

Want to know something forbodding? Kubo is still waiting to show Aizens bankai, so, in all likelihood, we are going to have the narrative and story deteriote even more.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Honestly, I competely lost track of the plot (or whatever is going on) at the moment despite reading the chapter summaries from a blogger on a weekly basis. I think it dued to the fact I don't know the new characters that well that got introdused after the anime ended.

 

[Elfgore]

This is a trend I've noticed for a lot of long-running manga/anime. The writer has to keep upping the ante to keep people interested and to allow the protagonist to win, he practically needs to make them gods. I heard Sasuke reached near god-like levels before the end of the show in Naruto. Luffy is getting pretty fucking close to god status and I'm not even up to date in One Piece. It's been a while since I've watched Fairy Tail, but Natsu was getting pretty fucking OP by episode hundred. Damn publishers/editors making mankaga's keep writing stories!

 

[Starbird]

This is a trend I've noticed for a lot of long-running manga/anime. The writer has to keep upping the ante to keep people interested and to allow the protagonist to win, he practically needs to make them gods. I heard Sasuke reached near god-like levels before the end of the show in Naruto. Luffy is getting pretty fucking close to god status and I'm not even up to date in One Piece. It's been a while since I've watched Fairy Tail, but Natsu was getting pretty fucking OP by episode hundred. Damn publishers/editors making mankaga's keep writing stories!

I didn't mind it as long as there was a reason for the transformation and it was actually made constant. Bleach however generally has characters pull now and unheard of powers completely out of their collective bums and then never use them again.

 

[sanquin]

Bleach should have ended after Aizen. It would have ended on a bad note then, yes. (Butterflaizen! And a super secret bet it all technique that can be trained to you in a short time and makes you godlike because plot! for Ichigo. Just...meh. But what came after that was even worse. I loved seeing Yamamoto's bankai, and some of the other unseen powers. But the rest is...pretty terrible so far.

One piece...eh, I still love it. But it's one of those shows where I just turn off the thinking part of the brain and enjoy the ride. Same with fairy tail.

Naruto...I lost interest a looonnggg time ago. I did keep reading, but only as a kind of afterthought if I was bored. In fact, everything after the tournament where Naruto becomes a full ninja was just a downhill slope for me.

 

[A-D.]

This is a trend I've noticed for a lot of long-running manga/anime. The writer has to keep upping the ante to keep people interested and to allow the protagonist to win, he practically needs to make them gods. I heard Sasuke reached near god-like levels before the end of the show in Naruto. Luffy is getting pretty fucking close to god status and I'm not even up to date in One Piece. It's been a while since I've watched Fairy Tail, but Natsu was getting pretty fucking OP by episode hundred. Damn publishers/editors making mankaga's keep writing stories!

Its called Powercreep. The problem is, if you set up the villain as literally near-unbeatable, like say Aizen in Bleach, then you have to go very deep in the chest to find something to explain how he loses. Even then, you could argue Aizen didnt lose, Ichigo had to sacrifice literally all power he had just to beat him and get the Wonder-stone thing out of him, but he was still quite capable of roflstomping pretty much everyone if he so much as got near his sword. Course Kubo being a moron just gave Ichigo his powers back instead of doing a timeskip and shifting the maincharacter to his sister, as was implied in the few chapters after the Aizen Arc was done.

The problem is, it went on too long. The longer a series runs, the more powerful the enemy has to be or it isnt a threat. Which depending on the show can be good and bad, look at Naruto's eye-power things, the sharingan and the byakugan and later the rinnegan. Now compare that with say One Piece, which literally had "Arc Bosses" go down ridiculously easy, like Hody in the Fishman Arc because technically speaking he wasnt really a Threat to the main guys at all, which meant Luffy could mop the floor with him, if it wasnt for the Steroid thing.

The only Manga that seems to handle it well recently is Fairy Tail there, because the characters dont really get stronger or weaker, but rather its always down to determination. Like Acnologia is this super-badass-world-ending Dragon, regardless of how much time passes, he cant be beaten by the main characters no matter how strong they get, because the power structure stays relatively the same.

 

[Starbird]

I actually really like power creep. If it's done well. Naruto did it really well (okay...up until the War arc). Dragon Ball Z did it well, for the time. Berserk does it perfectly.

 

[Post Tenebrae Morte]

Yes, yes it is and it's gotten even worse.

 

[Queen Michael]

I'm so glad I quit reading it after I finished book 25. Let's face it -- if you've read one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and it's still not good, it's just plain bad.

 

[Kaimax]

it's still better than 90% of shonen manga.

Lol No.
According to just the popularity ranking it's not. On the last rankings for Jump Issue 4-5 2015 it's 4th from the bottom.
And going through past issues It's been constant on the 5 bottom ranked series in Jump for All around 2014.

Objectively Bleach is currently one of the worst series in Jump, it didn't get Axed earlier on because it was one of the Big 3 with Naruto and One Piece.

Better series in the current Jump
-Boku no Hero Academia, From the author of Sensei no Bulge also VERY NEW with only 20 chapters scanlated. It's main theme is Western Styled Heroes. Main plot is People born with supernatural powers are now the "normals", while the main protagonist who wasn't born with any powers are now considered abnormal.
-Assassination Classroom, from the author of Demon Detective Neuro Nōgami. It's main theme is A Class of for assassinating. Main plot is a Foreign life form destroys 70% of the moon, and threatens to also destroy earth. His only demand, in 1 Year he will teach at a school and he teaches them on how to assassinate him.
-Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma, authored by pretty new Yuuto Tsukuda (his 2nd entry into jump), it's main theme is Cooking. The Main Plot is the Male MC is sent to a elite cooking school where the graduation rate is only 10%. There he must fight with other students through cooking called "Shokugeki" to become one of the school Elites. FYI, Illustrations by Saeki Shun AKA "Tosh"

That's just 3 of the newer generation that's constantly fighting for the top spot in Jump (One Piece is still consistently on top too). Those 3 rarely leaves the Top 5.

 

[wooty]

I used to love Bleach, but stopped paying full attention after series 3 of the anime. The Bounts bored the hell out of me and all the stuff in ..... (hollow world) seemed to be going nowhere.

I get little bits fed to me through friends who still follow the manga and most of it just leaves me with a puzzled face and a "WHAT?!" waiting at the back of my throat.

 

[Mahorfeus]

Yeah... I'm a Bleach fan, but The Almighty easily takes the cake for the most overpowered ability in the series. No, it isn't "literally the Sharingan" or whatever the hell people are saying about that. I understand that Yhwach has to be stupid powerful, but he already kind of was. Kubo needed a (read"plausible" way to make him best the Royal Guard. Kind of a shame, since I was really enjoying this fight. It's no surprise that Ichibe lost, but I was hoping it would be less... egh. There is already a plot device that has been set up that will likely be the counter for this ability, but the fact that it makes him arbitrarily undefeatable by anyone but a select few characters is annoying.

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Considering that it was the 18th best-selling series of last year on the Oricon charts, I'd be disinclined to agree. Granted, its popularity has obviously fallen, but that it has been doing as "well" as it has compared to series that still have an anime is a hopeful sign.

There are plenty of shounen series that are worse than Bleach, even in Weekly Shounen Jump (*cough*Toriko*cough*). I don't like Assassination Classroom, but Shokugeki no Souma has been pretty good.

This is a trend I've noticed for a lot of long-running manga/anime. The writer has to keep upping the ante to keep people interested and to allow the protagonist to win, he practically needs to make them gods. I heard Sasuke reached near god-like levels before the end of the show in Naruto. Luffy is getting pretty fucking close to god status and I'm not even up to date in One Piece. It's been a while since I've watched Fairy Tail, but Natsu was getting pretty fucking OP by episode hundred. Damn publishers/editors making mankaga's keep writing stories!

I didn't mind it as long as there was a reason for the transformation and it was actually made constant. Bleach however generally has characters pull now and unheard of powers completely out of their collective bums and then never use them again.

I've seen you say this before, but I still have absolutely no idea what or who in the series you might be referring to. I've always thought that Bleach did a relatively decent job of explaining where everyone's powers come from... none of that "nakama" crap from other series.

 

[PapaGreg096]

it's still better than 90% of shonen manga.

Lol No.
According to just the popularity ranking it's not. On the last rankings for Jump Issue 4-5 2015 it's 4th from the bottom.
And going through past issues It's been constant on the 5 bottom ranked series in Jump for All around 2014.

Objectively Bleach is currently one of the worst series in Jump, it didn't get Axed earlier on because it was one of the Big 3 with Naruto and One Piece.

Better series in the current Jump
-Boku no Hero Academia, From the author of Sensei no Bulge also VERY NEW with only 20 chapters scanlated. It's main theme is Western Styled Heroes. Main plot is People born with supernatural powers are now the "normals", while the main protagonist who wasn't born with any powers are now considered abnormal.
-Assassination Classroom, from the author of Demon Detective Neuro Nōgami. It's main theme is A Class of for assassinating. Main plot is a Foreign life form destroys 70% of the moon, and threatens to also destroy earth. His only demand, in 1 Year he will teach at a school and he teaches them on how to assassinate him.
-Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma, authored by pretty new Yuuto Tsukuda (his 2nd entry into jump), it's main theme is Cooking. The Main Plot is the Male MC is sent to a elite cooking school where the graduation rate is only 10%. There he must fight with other students through cooking called "Shokugeki" to become one of the school Elites. FYI, Illustrations by Saeki Shun AKA "Tosh"

That's just 3 of the newer generation that's constantly fighting for the top spot in Jump (One Piece is still consistently on top too). Those 3 rarely leaves the Top 5.

Also check out Hinomaru Zumou, a fantastic series thats about sumo but still has better fights than 90% of Bleach

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm so glad I quit reading it after I finished book 25. Let's face it -- if you've read one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and then one thousand pages and it's still not good, it's just plain bad.

I believe that's actually a technique to cleanse the soul.

I'm on volume...four. I really need to catch up. Or read until I get tired of it, I guess. Since nobody seems to like the later stuff.