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I looked it up and I watched the video. Hrmmm.... a bootcamp!? Looked like they just took classes and came out in a group. I'd suggest something different. You could use a book, or advice around here to pick up girls. I'm getting tired of copy/pasting stuff I already typed on this forum, but here you go:
And I guess you need some motivation
And just girls in general
I'm considering making an advice thread that could be permanently placed on top of the page.
I suffered from extreme AA the entire first year I was sarging(the time I started to have lots of sex), and it took this epiphany for me to finally break out and get Anti-Approach Anxiety. Nowadays I get worried that if I DON'T approach a hot girl, some other guy is gonna be nailing her to the kitchen counter on Valentine's Day- ain't gonna happen, OP!
Right now, if you're suffering from AA, your basic frame is almost certainly something like this: "She's hot and gets hit on all the time, and I'll come off as awkward and the conversation would die off in 20 seconds and it's safer to just not approach". Even if you don't actually think this to yourself every time, this type of basic attitude is the source of AA. So listen up:
Hot girls do get hit on all the time. 99/100, however, it is an awkward experience initiated by some chode with no game, making boring conversation, and not adding any excitement or value to her life at all. This is where shit tests and ***** shields come from (I know, I know, this is hardly groundbreaking stuff- hear me out).
SO. First off it's important to understand that WOMEN DO NOT MIND PEOPLE TALKING TO THEM. Seriously, women talk 100 times more than guys do. Listen to them gabbering right now. Talking is something all women love to do. Talking is easy. SO LISTEN UP: EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SUPER BORING CONVERSATION, THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT YOU WILL COME ACROSS LIKE A NORMAL GUY. Think about that. Normal guys are boring and awkward around hot women. So even if you crash and burn and are boring and awkward, YOU'RE NORMAL, CONGRATULATIONS. That's the WORST case scenario! Wrap your head around this concept, care for it, feed it, nurture it, ponder it and all of it's implications. You can do NO worse than normal. It's like someone giving you a test and saying, "Oh by the way, the absolute lowest score possible is a C. You literally cannot, under any circumstances (other than burning the building down or slapping the teacher in the face with your dick) FAIL this test." There will be NO pressure and NO anxiety once you actually, properly I N C E P T this idea into your consciousness. You're gonna like the way you approach and open; I guarantee it.
Second, when you walk past a hot girl without talking to her, you are being a selfish, unchivalrous douchebag because you are placing your own fears and wants above her needs. Women NEED you to improve their lives. They are DESPERATE for something exciting to happen. They silently BEG you every day to start a conversation and drop an atomic love bomb into their world. I'm not even kidding, ask ANY girl you know. Better yet, ask every girl you DON'T know. If you're trying to kick AA, go up to a hot chick tomorrow and just ask her, "So when I see a cute girl out and about, I should absolutely go talk to her right? Girls all silently hope for a fun guy to spontaneously start talking to them, right?" If someone produces a recording of them asking a stranger this question and the answer is anything other than "YES", I will send them a Steam Key or something. No shit.
Alright, I'm rambling here, and I'll probably come back and edit this in the morning to make it understandable, but for now, just remember:
1. Normal guys are boring and slightly awkward when talking to hot chicks, ergo...
2. Even if you are totally boring and awkward, the worst you can be is normal.
3.If you open girls and are even slightly interesting and fun, you will get their number and you will fuck real live female women.
4. NOT opening a girl means you are a selfish dick who wants to retain all the awesomeness in your life for just yourself.
5. All women want to be opened.
6. For the sweet-love of GOD go outside and talk to girls.
Right now, if you're suffering from AA, your basic frame is almost certainly something like this: "She's hot and gets hit on all the time, and I'll come off as awkward and the conversation would die off in 20 seconds and it's safer to just not approach". Even if you don't actually think this to yourself every time, this type of basic attitude is the source of AA. So listen up:
Hot girls do get hit on all the time. 99/100, however, it is an awkward experience initiated by some chode with no game, making boring conversation, and not adding any excitement or value to her life at all. This is where shit tests and ***** shields come from (I know, I know, this is hardly groundbreaking stuff- hear me out).
SO. First off it's important to understand that WOMEN DO NOT MIND PEOPLE TALKING TO THEM. Seriously, women talk 100 times more than guys do. Listen to them gabbering right now. Talking is something all women love to do. Talking is easy. SO LISTEN UP: EVEN IF YOU HAVE A SUPER BORING CONVERSATION, THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT YOU WILL COME ACROSS LIKE A NORMAL GUY. Think about that. Normal guys are boring and awkward around hot women. So even if you crash and burn and are boring and awkward, YOU'RE NORMAL, CONGRATULATIONS. That's the WORST case scenario! Wrap your head around this concept, care for it, feed it, nurture it, ponder it and all of it's implications. You can do NO worse than normal. It's like someone giving you a test and saying, "Oh by the way, the absolute lowest score possible is a C. You literally cannot, under any circumstances (other than burning the building down or slapping the teacher in the face with your dick) FAIL this test." There will be NO pressure and NO anxiety once you actually, properly I N C E P T this idea into your consciousness. You're gonna like the way you approach and open; I guarantee it.
Second, when you walk past a hot girl without talking to her, you are being a selfish, unchivalrous douchebag because you are placing your own fears and wants above her needs. Women NEED you to improve their lives. They are DESPERATE for something exciting to happen. They silently BEG you every day to start a conversation and drop an atomic love bomb into their world. I'm not even kidding, ask ANY girl you know. Better yet, ask every girl you DON'T know. If you're trying to kick AA, go up to a hot chick tomorrow and just ask her, "So when I see a cute girl out and about, I should absolutely go talk to her right? Girls all silently hope for a fun guy to spontaneously start talking to them, right?" If someone produces a recording of them asking a stranger this question and the answer is anything other than "YES", I will send them a Steam Key or something. No shit.
Alright, I'm rambling here, and I'll probably come back and edit this in the morning to make it understandable, but for now, just remember:
1. Normal guys are boring and slightly awkward when talking to hot chicks, ergo...
2. Even if you are totally boring and awkward, the worst you can be is normal.
3.If you open girls and are even slightly interesting and fun, you will get their number and you will fuck real live female women.
4. NOT opening a girl means you are a selfish dick who wants to retain all the awesomeness in your life for just yourself.
5. All women want to be opened.
6. For the sweet-love of GOD go outside and talk to girls.
And I guess you need some motivation
Hi. I'm your competition, & whether you like it or not, you're being compared to me and guys like me. I don't have noticeable flaws, emotional hangups, or needy tendencies. When I get blown out, I feel sorry for what she doesn't know she is missing. When I close, it's expected, and when I'm gone, women play dj scribbles while they're thinking of me.
While you are playing video games, I am lifting. While you're picking out your outfit, I'm doing crunches so I can take my clothes off. While you're at your job, I'm at my career. While you're hanging in your parents basement, I'm paying off my mortgage. While you're questioning whether or not she likes you, I've already found out. When you're pining over the one that got away, I'm making her laugh and horny but walking away because she's not that interesting. While you're pissing around on the internet, I'm emailing, texting and calling all the women you're too much of a pussy to try and attract.
And the worst part is, you probably hold women in higher regard than I do, and treat them with more respect, care, and kindness than I ever have. Do you hate me? You should, because I'm the guy she wishes your text was from. I'm the guy that makes you feel 2 inches tall, I'm the reason that women have their emotions guarded, and I'm the guy you'd punch out if you weren't such a little *****.
If you can't find enough motivation to change your life just by thinking about all the beautiful ladies you don't know yet, you can find that motivation by thinking about me, blowin it on the love of your life's face, then not calling her. You've got to be better, work harder, and do more to be her hero.
Or you can just skip your workout today, stay home tonight & jerk off. Please do, because that makes it so much easier for me and all the other assholes like me that are doing what needs done to impress the fairer sex.
So, what's it gonna be?
While you are playing video games, I am lifting. While you're picking out your outfit, I'm doing crunches so I can take my clothes off. While you're at your job, I'm at my career. While you're hanging in your parents basement, I'm paying off my mortgage. While you're questioning whether or not she likes you, I've already found out. When you're pining over the one that got away, I'm making her laugh and horny but walking away because she's not that interesting. While you're pissing around on the internet, I'm emailing, texting and calling all the women you're too much of a pussy to try and attract.
And the worst part is, you probably hold women in higher regard than I do, and treat them with more respect, care, and kindness than I ever have. Do you hate me? You should, because I'm the guy she wishes your text was from. I'm the guy that makes you feel 2 inches tall, I'm the reason that women have their emotions guarded, and I'm the guy you'd punch out if you weren't such a little *****.
If you can't find enough motivation to change your life just by thinking about all the beautiful ladies you don't know yet, you can find that motivation by thinking about me, blowin it on the love of your life's face, then not calling her. You've got to be better, work harder, and do more to be her hero.
Or you can just skip your workout today, stay home tonight & jerk off. Please do, because that makes it so much easier for me and all the other assholes like me that are doing what needs done to impress the fairer sex.
So, what's it gonna be?
1. Buy some cologne. Georgio Armani Acqua di Gio and Chanel are my brand. It doesn't seem much, but when someone tells you smell great, it's a nice boost to your ego. Also if you're a sweaty person, buy antiperspirant and wear %100 cotton undershirts, especially if you're wearing buttoned shirts of all kind. I'll be honest: appearance is everything if you're in school.
2. DON'T go for the rich-guy look. Expensive watches, chains and jeans makes you look like a douche. At most, jeans should cost $110.
3. Unless you're cosplaying as Mako from Legend of Korra, no scarves. Ever.
4. Smelly feet? Wash between toes, and when you come out of the shower, DON'T step on the thing you stepped on when you entered the shower. Also put baby powder in your socks.
5. If you're grooming "down there", just trim. Being completely shaven makes your junk sweaty.
6. Shower EVERY morning. That shit you had on your pillow is the same shit you had on your face yesterday. A shampoo/conditioner is great to avoid greasy hair.
7. Use good old-fashioned bar-soap on your body before using body wash.
8. Acne problems? Wash you face every morning and night to avoid breakouts. Sleep with a clean towel over your pillow. For body acne, change your bed sheets every week and flip your mattress.
9. For facial hair, avoid mustaches unless if you can grow a beard. Wash your beard as often as your hair. Also, after eating. Don't want some leftover food on your facial hair. Patchy beard? Then fuck it. Clean-shaven works too, unless you look like Danny Briere.
10. Brush your teeth(and tongue) every morning and night and follow-up with floss and listerine. If your tongue is white and not pink, you're brushing it wrong. To test your breath, lick the top of your hand, wait a few seconds, then smell it. It's disgusting, but it works.
2. DON'T go for the rich-guy look. Expensive watches, chains and jeans makes you look like a douche. At most, jeans should cost $110.
3. Unless you're cosplaying as Mako from Legend of Korra, no scarves. Ever.
4. Smelly feet? Wash between toes, and when you come out of the shower, DON'T step on the thing you stepped on when you entered the shower. Also put baby powder in your socks.
5. If you're grooming "down there", just trim. Being completely shaven makes your junk sweaty.
6. Shower EVERY morning. That shit you had on your pillow is the same shit you had on your face yesterday. A shampoo/conditioner is great to avoid greasy hair.
7. Use good old-fashioned bar-soap on your body before using body wash.
8. Acne problems? Wash you face every morning and night to avoid breakouts. Sleep with a clean towel over your pillow. For body acne, change your bed sheets every week and flip your mattress.
9. For facial hair, avoid mustaches unless if you can grow a beard. Wash your beard as often as your hair. Also, after eating. Don't want some leftover food on your facial hair. Patchy beard? Then fuck it. Clean-shaven works too, unless you look like Danny Briere.
10. Brush your teeth(and tongue) every morning and night and follow-up with floss and listerine. If your tongue is white and not pink, you're brushing it wrong. To test your breath, lick the top of your hand, wait a few seconds, then smell it. It's disgusting, but it works.
And just girls in general
1. Only talk to a girl you're interested in if it's an inquiry about hanging out or going on a date.
2. When asking said-girl, don't make it a question. Say something like, "I'm free tomorrow. Come over if you want to have fun" or whatever like that. REMEMBER: NO ASKING!
3. If you text a girl, don't fucking text her for around three days. If she doesn't reply the second time, forget her or just wait for a response. Also, NEVER One or two-word text her. EVER.
4. If a girl is interested in a guy, most prefer to talk side-by-side with them. If a guy is interested in a girl, they talk to her face to face. Use this to your advantage. Keep up with the eye contact and don't switch from eye to eye. Only break eye contact when switching subjects, and only for a few seconds.
5. Have a sexy smile. Practice in front of a mirror. You don't want to look like a creep. Smile when talking to girls. Especially if she seems interested.
6. If she's with a friend, avoid serious discussions with the friend. You can switch some focus to the friend, to play a little bit of hard to get. But remember: Focus your attention on Her. (from now on, I'll refer to the girl you're interested in as "Her")
7. Never have bad breath. Have mints on you at all times. If you prefer gum, get a minty one. Always have an extra for Her. If she doesn't ask, offer Her some.
8. NEVER cheat on a girl. Not even once. If you want to, break up with her. If you have a bad rep, no decent girl will be after you.
9. If a girl has a history of cheating, even only once don't bother. She'll do it again. If your girl cheats on you, dump her ass and never look back. And by never, I mean NEVER.
10. Be nice to ALL girls. One hears you talking trash about another girl, it'll spread. Trust me on this one. It'll make you look like a desperate douche. Your opinion of girls will change, and you don't want to limit yourself on something you said before you even knew the girl.
11. Okay, I might sound harsh on this one, but honest: There are tiers on girls. Just like Pokemon. There's shit-tier(NU), bad-tier(RU), OK-tier(UU), good-tier(OU), and Goddess-tier(Ubers). Always go for good-tier or over. Remember: The tiers are what's in YOUR opinion and no one else's.
12. When or if you dump a girl, NEVER go after her friends. You need to show respect.
13. You're in school, eh? Walk Her to her classes as much as you can, IF you are at the point of talking to each other. It fucking works.
14. Compliment your woman. If you aren't going out, and you know she's interested, tell her she looks pretty today or something like that. Notice the small things like nails, hair, piercings, slightly different hair, etc.
15. Don't let things get physical fast. Wait a month and a half. Don't let your cock take over your brain.
16. NEVER tell her you love her unless you mean it. And if you do, wait about 4-6 months into the relationship.
17. Say hi to Her EVERYTIME you meet her, but don't shout from across the hallway.
2. When asking said-girl, don't make it a question. Say something like, "I'm free tomorrow. Come over if you want to have fun" or whatever like that. REMEMBER: NO ASKING!
3. If you text a girl, don't fucking text her for around three days. If she doesn't reply the second time, forget her or just wait for a response. Also, NEVER One or two-word text her. EVER.
4. If a girl is interested in a guy, most prefer to talk side-by-side with them. If a guy is interested in a girl, they talk to her face to face. Use this to your advantage. Keep up with the eye contact and don't switch from eye to eye. Only break eye contact when switching subjects, and only for a few seconds.
5. Have a sexy smile. Practice in front of a mirror. You don't want to look like a creep. Smile when talking to girls. Especially if she seems interested.
6. If she's with a friend, avoid serious discussions with the friend. You can switch some focus to the friend, to play a little bit of hard to get. But remember: Focus your attention on Her. (from now on, I'll refer to the girl you're interested in as "Her")
7. Never have bad breath. Have mints on you at all times. If you prefer gum, get a minty one. Always have an extra for Her. If she doesn't ask, offer Her some.
8. NEVER cheat on a girl. Not even once. If you want to, break up with her. If you have a bad rep, no decent girl will be after you.
9. If a girl has a history of cheating, even only once don't bother. She'll do it again. If your girl cheats on you, dump her ass and never look back. And by never, I mean NEVER.
10. Be nice to ALL girls. One hears you talking trash about another girl, it'll spread. Trust me on this one. It'll make you look like a desperate douche. Your opinion of girls will change, and you don't want to limit yourself on something you said before you even knew the girl.
11. Okay, I might sound harsh on this one, but honest: There are tiers on girls. Just like Pokemon. There's shit-tier(NU), bad-tier(RU), OK-tier(UU), good-tier(OU), and Goddess-tier(Ubers). Always go for good-tier or over. Remember: The tiers are what's in YOUR opinion and no one else's.
12. When or if you dump a girl, NEVER go after her friends. You need to show respect.
13. You're in school, eh? Walk Her to her classes as much as you can, IF you are at the point of talking to each other. It fucking works.
14. Compliment your woman. If you aren't going out, and you know she's interested, tell her she looks pretty today or something like that. Notice the small things like nails, hair, piercings, slightly different hair, etc.
15. Don't let things get physical fast. Wait a month and a half. Don't let your cock take over your brain.
16. NEVER tell her you love her unless you mean it. And if you do, wait about 4-6 months into the relationship.
17. Say hi to Her EVERYTIME you meet her, but don't shout from across the hallway.
I'm considering making an advice thread that could be permanently placed on top of the page.
Actually they teach you how to overcome AA and tell you what your sticking points are and then help you iron them out , they dont sugar coat it either .
Well, after further reading on Pick-up artist classes, they seem legit. How much is a course anyways? And how long is a bootcamp? Do you really think you might need a training course for this and why?Iranoutofnames said:
Well a bootcamp lasts for 3 days and 2 nights and the one im looking at currently costs 600 pounds . As for your other question no i dont NEED the bootcamp , but it would help me out greatly as im rarely in social situations due to my circumstances . I had weight problems recently , got that in order , lost 45 kilos and started grooming as well , but that was solely on me , while killing my AA and social awkwardness isnt and while im reading books about socializing and stuff due to the lack of practise the improvements are comming too slowly and in turn my social life isnt improving , which means its still as dead as i started .FilipJPhry said:
Do you have enough money so it won't make a dent in your budget? Go ahead. Much better than learning stuff through the internet. You need real-life experience and these seem alright.Iranoutofnames said:
Well i got the cash needed for the courses themselves already saved up , but there held in London and i live in Lithuania so ill need extra for the accomodations and travel .FilipJPhry said:
Would someone help you out? I'm sure a family member could give you extra for hotels and stuff. Just say that you're going on an important trip and you could use some extra cash.Iranoutofnames said:
Ill get the means to go there .... but im still on the fence wheter the bootcamp would be worth it or not .FilipJPhry said:
See this is the problem i got anywhere i ask its either overly negative or overly positive reviews of the bootcamps or PUAS . Cant find a decent one .Katatori-kun said: