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GoldenCondor

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The Maddest March Hare said:
My short list of songs with great guitar to play along with:

All That Remains - Become the Catalyst
In Flames - Embody the Invisible
KillSwitch Engage - Rose of Sharyn or The Arms of Sorrow
Pantera - Domination and Regular People(Conceit)
Throwdown - Holy Roller
At The Gates - Blinded by Fear and Suicide Nation

..or at least, that would by my list. But the wise and glorious OP has deigned that only certain forms of metal are 'real' metal. And seeing as a couple of those bands on there don't fit in with his elite band of 'real' sub-genres they are evidently not metal. This is obviously true, as of course, metalcore isn't a real genre of metal is it? Oh no of course it isn't, it's just a figment of our imagination.

I'm sorry OP, but deciding that because you dislike a certain sub-genre does not equal the rest of the world seeing eye to eye with you. You are not God of all you survey and have no right to exclude something just because you don't like it. It would be like saying "which console is best, PS3 or Wii, but don't talk about the 360 because it's not a real console". Do you see how close excluding something is to flaming it?

If you want this game to actually work you need to pander to all metalheads, not just ones that agree with you. I dislike all forms of black, folk and most thrash metal, but would not say that it shouldn't appear in the game, as people out there like it, and would certainly not say it isn't real metal.
Yeah, this makes sense to me too. Besides, more metalcore and groove bands are known, therefore the game would sell better.

Acaroid said:
btw you win for putting psycroptic in, it is great to see a band from tasmania australia getting known outside australia. mind you I miss Chalky on vocals.
Don't worry, you're not the only one who misses Chalky. Although rumor has it he cheated on the vocals, by being really close, singing quiet, and practically whispering, and is also said he barely ever performed live because he can't do it loud, which i think is bull crap.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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TheGCP said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Now in responds to someone who said "I still don't get why people choose to scream like they've got a leech hanging off their throat instead of singing like a normal person (for this reason, despite the fact I don't like them that much, Linkin Park is better band). Even then, I don't get why people choose to listen to them in the first place, IMO."...gtfo! Linkin Park is the worst scum to ever claim to be rock or metal of any classification beyond even that of slipknot and disturbed(Nu-metal scum). If your not absoloutely retarded you'd understand it's a style of singing and it actually takes a lot of talent.
Wrong. Anyone can do it actually, and for the record, the 'talent' that you label is what I call 'endurance'. Even then, I just think screaming in a song is horrible and pointless - it really ruins the harmony of a song. Now, the rest of Linkin Park may or may not be the scum of the earth, but the vocalist is absolutely brilliant. Yes he screams, but he isn't heavily reliant on it. This is the reason why Linkin Park have that small silver lining of being better.
Ok I think you probably have the wrong idea of what I'm talking about here, I mean growling not screaming, it's not just a guy yelling at a microphone. There are several different pitches, it takes a LOT of endurance and skill to actually find those pitches. Also it doesn't ruin the harmony because the song is fucking built around it. Not to mention you don't look for harmony in death metal.
 

GoldenCondor

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Sightless Wisdom said:
TheGCP said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Now in responds to someone who said "I still don't get why people choose to scream like they've got a leech hanging off their throat instead of singing like a normal person (for this reason, despite the fact I don't like them that much, Linkin Park is better band). Even then, I don't get why people choose to listen to them in the first place, IMO."...gtfo! Linkin Park is the worst scum to ever claim to be rock or metal of any classification beyond even that of slipknot and disturbed(Nu-metal scum). If your not absoloutely retarded you'd understand it's a style of singing and it actually takes a lot of talent.
Wrong. Anyone can do it actually, and for the record, the 'talent' that you label is what I call 'endurance'. Even then, I just think screaming in a song is horrible and pointless - it really ruins the harmony of a song. Now, the rest of Linkin Park may or may not be the scum of the earth, but the vocalist is absolutely brilliant. Yes he screams, but he isn't heavily reliant on it. This is the reason why Linkin Park have that small silver lining of being better.
Ok I think you probably have the wrong idea of what I'm talking about here, I mean growling not screaming, it's not just a guy yelling at a microphone. There are several different pitches, it takes a LOT of endurance and skill to actually find those pitches. Also it doesn't ruin the harmony because the song is fucking built around it. Not to mention you don't look for harmony in death metal.
This wins. There's not a lot of people saying that growls are great because they are afraid of what they don't know. Saying growling isn't a type of singing is like saying an electric guitar isn't a guitar because it's distorted. Growling takes alot of skill, not just mucous. I really think growling can be used beautifully, like Haggard's old stuff. Point is, not every average joe can do growls. Which is why it would be awesome to have in guitar hero and what not. It's not only going to be a game, but it's going to teach you how to growl, and accept that it's a style of singing.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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GoldenCondor said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
TheGCP said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Now in responds to someone who said "I still don't get why people choose to scream like they've got a leech hanging off their throat instead of singing like a normal person (for this reason, despite the fact I don't like them that much, Linkin Park is better band). Even then, I don't get why people choose to listen to them in the first place, IMO."...gtfo! Linkin Park is the worst scum to ever claim to be rock or metal of any classification beyond even that of slipknot and disturbed(Nu-metal scum). If your not absoloutely retarded you'd understand it's a style of singing and it actually takes a lot of talent.
Wrong. Anyone can do it actually, and for the record, the 'talent' that you label is what I call 'endurance'. Even then, I just think screaming in a song is horrible and pointless - it really ruins the harmony of a song. Now, the rest of Linkin Park may or may not be the scum of the earth, but the vocalist is absolutely brilliant. Yes he screams, but he isn't heavily reliant on it. This is the reason why Linkin Park have that small silver lining of being better.
Ok I think you probably have the wrong idea of what I'm talking about here, I mean growling not screaming, it's not just a guy yelling at a microphone. There are several different pitches, it takes a LOT of endurance and skill to actually find those pitches. Also it doesn't ruin the harmony because the song is fucking built around it. Not to mention you don't look for harmony in death metal.
This wins. There's not a lot of people saying that growls are great because they are afraid of what they don't know. Saying growling isn't a type of singing is like saying an electric guitar isn't a guitar because it's distorted. Growling takes alot of skill, not just mucous. I really think growling can be used beautifully, like Haggard's old stuff. Point is, not every average joe can do growls. Which is why it would be awesome to have in guitar hero and what not. It's not only going to be a game, but it's going to teach you how to growl, and accept that it's a style of singing.
Yeah I'm always a litle dissapointed when death metal songs have no-tone singing in rockband.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
First off, we can't make Activision do anything. We're a few hundred users versus the millions that are happy with GH as is. Second most of your choices are so obscure that even if they did make such a game that wouldn't include those songs.
I fully agree with this post, and the bolded part is the reason why this thread should be locked.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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kanyatta said:
NoMoreSanity said:
First off, we can't make Activision do anything. We're a few hundred users versus the millions that are happy with GH as is. Second most of your choices are so obscure that even if they did make such a game that wouldn't include those songs.
I fully agree with this post, and the bolded part is the reason why this thread should be locked.
Locked is a bit extreme, we're just discussing what we would like to see in the game if such a game were ever created. Its not in any way against the rules.
 

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Sounds like a good idea. They should get some Alestorm in there. But really, we need harmonixto make Ska Band so we can play some Reel Big Fish and Streetlught Manifesto.
 

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my setlist

Stigmata - Arch enemy
Beyond Abilities - Warmen
Everytime I die - Children of Bodom
The Nomad - Vader
The Serpentine Offering - Dimmu Borgir

Encore
Medusa and Hemlock - Cradle of Filth
 

FightThePower

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I'd like to see a Guitar Hero: Electronica edition personally, but I think a Metal one would be pretty likely actually considering it seems to be the dominant music taste amongst videogamers. I have no idea why.
 

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My taste is namely Eurocentric, so it has an even smaller chance of ever coming to fruition. But I'll just say my dream Metal anthology includes:

Aesma Daeva
Alcoholika La Christo
Angtoria
(Wish I could include Apocalyptica...)
Atargatis
Atrocity
Beautiful Sin
Beseech
Blind Guardian
Coronatus
Danzig
Darkseed
Darkwell
Demons & Wizards
Dommin
Epica
Gathering, The
In Flames
Kamelot
KMFDM
Korpiklaani
L'Âme Immortelle
Lacuna Coil
Leaves' Eyes
Lordi
Nightwish (as far as I'm concerned it should be titled GH/RB:Nightwish...)
Northern Kings
Paradise Lost
Poisonblack
Savatage
Sentenced
Sirenia
Sonata Artica
Therion
Tristania
Within Temptation
Volbeat

..err, I suppose that's enough
 

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
NekoiHiokans said:
This would never make it. You might be surprised that not everyone listens to metal. This idea would flop fasted than you can say, "OH SHIT! A TOMATO!" So yeah, maybe they should make a game based off of user ideas, but all metal...just...no. And to whoever said Metallica sucked, they still have more talent than you any day, just remember that.
If by 'talent' you mean 'money', then yes, they have more than everyone on this forum. ;P
No, I mean actual fucking talent. Could you stand on a stage in front of millions and rock them all, I don't think so. And yes, they also have more money than you.
 

Nigh Invulnerable

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NekoiHiokans said:
Nigh Invulnerable said:
NekoiHiokans said:
This would never make it. You might be surprised that not everyone listens to metal. This idea would flop fasted than you can say, "OH SHIT! A TOMATO!" So yeah, maybe they should make a game based off of user ideas, but all metal...just...no. And to whoever said Metallica sucked, they still have more talent than you any day, just remember that.
If by 'talent' you mean 'money', then yes, they have more than everyone on this forum. ;P
No, I mean actual fucking talent. Could you stand on a stage in front of millions and rock them all, I don't think so. And yes, they also have more money than you.
Chill out, dude. It was a joke. Of course they're talented.
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
TheGCP said:
Sightless Wisdom said:
Now in responds to someone who said "I still don't get why people choose to scream like they've got a leech hanging off their throat instead of singing like a normal person (for this reason, despite the fact I don't like them that much, Linkin Park is better band). Even then, I don't get why people choose to listen to them in the first place, IMO."...gtfo! Linkin Park is the worst scum to ever claim to be rock or metal of any classification beyond even that of slipknot and disturbed(Nu-metal scum). If your not absoloutely retarded you'd understand it's a style of singing and it actually takes a lot of talent.
Wrong. Anyone can do it actually, and for the record, the 'talent' that you label is what I call 'endurance'. Even then, I just think screaming in a song is horrible and pointless - it really ruins the harmony of a song. Now, the rest of Linkin Park may or may not be the scum of the earth, but the vocalist is absolutely brilliant. Yes he screams, but he isn't heavily reliant on it. This is the reason why Linkin Park have that small silver lining of being better.
Ok I think you probably have the wrong idea of what I'm talking about here, I mean growling not screaming, it's not just a guy yelling at a microphone. There are several different pitches, it takes a LOT of endurance and skill to actually find those pitches. Also it doesn't ruin the harmony because the song is fucking built around it. Not to mention you don't look for harmony in death metal.

Oh thank goodness you now say 'growling' instead of screaming. Fair enough, that is indeed a style of singing.

There is in fact harmony in death metal though - a very angry one. The guitar is angry, the drums are angry, the vocals are... yeah. x+y+z=angry.
Nigh Invulnerable said:
NekoiHiokans said:
Nigh Invulnerable said:
NekoiHiokans said:
This would never make it. You might be surprised that not everyone listens to metal. This idea would flop fasted than you can say, "OH SHIT! A TOMATO!" So yeah, maybe they should make a game based off of user ideas, but all metal...just...no. And to whoever said Metallica sucked, they still have more talent than you any day, just remember that.
If by 'talent' you mean 'money', then yes, they have more than everyone on this forum. ;P
No, I mean actual fucking talent. Could you stand on a stage in front of millions and rock them all, I don't think so. And yes, they also have more money than you.
Chill out, dude. It was a joke. Of course they're talented.
LMFAO!
 

NoriYuki Sato

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get ready for a very very very long list of bands that must have one out...


Angel Dust
In Flames
Into Eternity
The Haunted
Arch Enemy ((With Angela Gossow aka 2001-present only))
Trivium
Heaven Shall Burn
DevilDriver
...And Oceans
Asphyx
At The Gates
Bloodbath
Daath
Carnal Forge
Devilinside
Exodus
Behemoth
Children of Bodom
Cradle of Filth
Death Angel
Demons & Wizards ((This one is a must Blind Guardian and Iced Earth formed this band))
Dimmu Borgir
Eternal Tears of Sorrow
Evile
God Forbid
Green Jelly
Himsa
Agony Scene
Jack Off Jill ((just for giggles))
Korpiklaani ((come on, you gotta love finnish folk metal))
Krisiun ((easiest....guitar part....ever))
Lordi ((have to have at least one good hard rock band))
Nevermore
Octavia Sperati
Jungle Rot
Scar Symmetry
Sinai Beach ((would be very interesting))
Skinlab
Slayer
Slipknot
Shadows Fall
Lamb Of God
Soilwork
Soulfly ((Oo Rah))
Calvera Conspiracy ((I like Max Clavera))
Hatebreed
Symphony X
System of a Down ((yes..SOAD))
Testament
Iron Maiden
Napalm Death
Sworn Enemy
The Agonist
Fear Before The March of Flames
The Number Twelve Looks Like You
Haste The Day
Mnemic
Nodes of Ranvier ((With Nick Murphy as lead singer))
Luna Mortis ((Listen to the song Never Give In))
Warbringer
Stick To Your Guns
Terror
Sonic Syndicate
Stretch Armstrong
HORSE The Band
The entire RoadRunner United album as a game
Blind Guardian
Chrome Division ((Serial Killer...oh yeah))
Echoes of Eternity
Fireball Ministry
1000 Scars ((just listen to em..and tell Newman and Chez that Maxx sent ya))
STAMPIN' GROUND
Enforsaken
DETHKLOK ((FTW!!))
Rob Zombie/White Zombie
Demon Hunter
Adema
A Perfect Murder
Most Precious Blood
Watch Them Die ((Pat Vigil FTW))
and Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force
 

Acaroid

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GoldenCondor said:
The Maddest March Hare said:
My short list of songs with great guitar to play along with:

All That Remains - Become the Catalyst
In Flames - Embody the Invisible
KillSwitch Engage - Rose of Sharyn or The Arms of Sorrow
Pantera - Domination and Regular People(Conceit)
Throwdown - Holy Roller
At The Gates - Blinded by Fear and Suicide Nation

..or at least, that would by my list. But the wise and glorious OP has deigned that only certain forms of metal are 'real' metal. And seeing as a couple of those bands on there don't fit in with his elite band of 'real' sub-genres they are evidently not metal. This is obviously true, as of course, metalcore isn't a real genre of metal is it? Oh no of course it isn't, it's just a figment of our imagination.

I'm sorry OP, but deciding that because you dislike a certain sub-genre does not equal the rest of the world seeing eye to eye with you. You are not God of all you survey and have no right to exclude something just because you don't like it. It would be like saying "which console is best, PS3 or Wii, but don't talk about the 360 because it's not a real console". Do you see how close excluding something is to flaming it?

If you want this game to actually work you need to pander to all metalheads, not just ones that agree with you. I dislike all forms of black, folk and most thrash metal, but would not say that it shouldn't appear in the game, as people out there like it, and would certainly not say it isn't real metal.
Yeah, this makes sense to me too. Besides, more metalcore and groove bands are known, therefore the game would sell better.

Acaroid said:
btw you win for putting psycroptic in, it is great to see a band from tasmania australia getting known outside australia. mind you I miss Chalky on vocals.
Don't worry, you're not the only one who misses Chalky. Although rumor has it he cheated on the vocals, by being really close, singing quiet, and practically whispering, and is also said he barely ever performed live because he can't do it loud, which i think is bull crap.
Well im not sure about rumors but I saw chalky live twice and it was great both times!!! alot better than the newer guy!!
 

Nigh Invulnerable

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Wasder said:
Sounds like a good idea. They should get some Alestorm in there. But really, we need harmonixto make Ska Band so we can play some Reel Big Fish and Streetlught Manifesto.
Somehow I suspect ska would not be as much fun to play in GH/RB format since a large percentage of the melodies in ska are horn related. I could be wrong though.
 

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Id just be happy with a guitar hero: megadeth.
Anyway, some metal bands i like;
Job for a cowboy
Children of bodom
Pantera
Slayer (earlier stuff)
Definitely need Iron Maiden and Judas priest
Trivium
Megadeth (preferably older albums)

By the way, WHERE THE FUCK IS HANGAR 18 ON GUITAR HERO SMASH HITS? You can have some obscure shitty european band BUT NO HANGAR 18? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
I actually have to have my computer on while i play smash hits on full volume with some of my music because i cant stand most tracks on GH:SM.

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NoriYuki Sato said:
Arch Enemy ((With Angela Gossow aka 2001-present only))
Angela Gossow scares me.
 

InsertWittyName

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NekoiHiokans said:
No, I mean actual fucking talent. Could you stand on a stage in front of millions and rock them all, I don't think so. And yes, they also have more money than you.
Seriously? i'm pretty sure the musicians on this forum can write better stuff than kirk does, seriously, he uses simple scale patterns for his stuff.