Calm Down About "Duke Nukem Forever"

[Austin Howe]

Ok, let me make this clear. I have not played it yet. Actually, I can't honestly say I plan to play it.

But these are the facts: Gearbox attained the project after 3d Realms worked on it for almost a decade. Frankly, I wouldn't be suprised if all Gearbox was able to do were a few touches and basically finishing levels and such. Basically, most of the bad design decisions were 3D Realms. We knew this was coming. It's pretty much your fault for holding out hope. Just Saiyan.

 

[PureChaos]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

 

[thiosk]

We know. The level headed among us tend not to panic about videogames and videogame companies, nor do we tend to level insults at anyone regarding their choices in videogaming.

(I'm convinced that the noisiest and most insulting people tend to be either 14 years old, or, must be the type of folk that gravitate towards fringe political rallies and carry signs while screaming about "babykilling abortionists" or "corporationy corporate corpses" depending on the side of the fence they're on)

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Yea it isn't a big deal but that being said why should we make excuses for a product if it is crappy?

 

[Atmos Duality]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

Who knows, he might actually put forth some credible dissertation for once rather than attacking his audience or some other tangential topic for a change.

...Aw who am I a kidding. I know what really pays the bills and gets the website hits.

 

[kayisking]

It was gearbox's choice to implement a two weapon limit.
It was gearbox's choice to switch to regenerative health.
It was gearbox's choice to add in puzzle elements.
It is gearbox's fault the game sucks.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Ah I love the way people try to defend Gearbox, another fact is that Gearbox stamped their name on the box. If you have enough faith in a product to stamp your company's name and logo onto the box, trailers etc you must therefore be able to take at least some of the rap rather than just shoving all the blame onto 3D Realms

Just waiting for a statement by Gearbox... Annnnny day now

 

[Inkidu]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

Wednesday cannot get here fast enough, it's going to be hilarious.

 

[Liudeius]

I agree. People need to stop complaining. It isn't as if all those 10 years were spent being productive, otherwise it would have been released 8 years ago. If you are playing an FPS, don't expect anything better than a normal FPS.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Yes the underlying issues (animation, engine, AI, environment, level design, game length) is 3D Realms work, however the little things on top (health regen, weapon limit, quick time events, button mashing, removed kick, ...) are someone elses decision and these are the real poke in the eye.

 

[PureChaos]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

Who knows, he might actually put forth some credible dissertation for once rather than attacking his audience or some other tangential topic for a change.

...Aw who am I a kidding. I know what really pays the bills and gets the website hits.

no doubt it will be a 5 minute rant about how it wasn't worth the wait, the triple cetnud hooker will probably show up at some point.

 

[Skops]

It was gearbox's choice to implement a two weapon limit.
It was gearbox's choice to switch to regenerative health.
It was gearbox's choice to add in puzzle elements.
It is gearbox's fault the game sucks.

How do we know this exactly?

 

[PureChaos]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

Wednesday cannot get here fast enough, it's going to be hilarious.

i've not looked forward to a review so much since Brawl

 

[Xanadu84]

Look at the gameplay videos: Does that look like a game made in 2001? Either 3dRealms were WAAAAY ahead of there time, or Gearbox completely overhauled the whole damn game. DNF could be excellent or terrible, and it will be excellent or terrible based on it's actual merits, not any of our conspiracy theories. Personally, I have greatly enjoyed Gearbox's track record, and unless it gets terrible reviews, I will pick it up before too terribly long. Jokes aside, we have no reason to think DNF is either good or bad just yet.

 

[Inkidu]

the only thing i'm looking forward to about the release of this game is Yahtzee's review of it

Wednesday cannot get here fast enough, it's going to be hilarious.

i've not looked forward to a review so much since Brawl

I hope it's as good as his Minecraft review too. "It's not like Gary's Mod. It makes you work for your giant, golden C*** and b***s. It knows you won't appreciate it if it just gives it to you." Genius.

 

[Zantos]

I'm quite enjoying it, it's pretty fun. The puzzle elements are actually pretty fresh, not the "solve the first puzzle, apply same method to every subsequent puzzle" style that's been getting me annoyed recently. Plus the humour is pretty funny.

 

[kayisking]

It was gearbox's choice to implement a two weapon limit.
It was gearbox's choice to switch to regenerative health.
It was gearbox's choice to add in puzzle elements.
It is gearbox's fault the game sucks.

I disagree, it's more like...

It was 3D realms' choice to switch to regenerative health.
It was 3D realms' choice to add in puzzle elements.
It is 3D realms' fault the game sucks.
It was Gearbox's choice to change none of this, you don't complain about the soup made being shit when it's your fault that you took somebody else's recipe, saw that it was crap, and decided to go with that instead of starting from scratch.

It was gearbox's choice to implement a two weapon limit.
It was gearbox's choice to switch to regenerative health.
It was gearbox's choice to add in puzzle elements.
It is gearbox's fault the game sucks.

How do we know this exactly?

We know this because Gearbox said it themselves. 3d realms version didn't have a weapon limit, it didn't have regenrative health, and it didn't have puzzles. Gearbox said something about bringing Duke up to modern standard. IT'S THEIR FAULT!!!