can someone please explain american football to me?

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shootthebandit

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I was just flicking through the channels and american football is on. Ive never seen it before at all and i dont have a clue whats going on

I can only assume its a bit like rugby except they wear pads and theres a lot more breaks in play
 

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It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
 

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Pink Gregory said:
It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
thats about all ive gathered so far. There also isnt much play going on, it just seems that they have one push forward then stop for some adverts. when i watch a game of proper football that played with your feet it lasts 90 mins with a 15 minute break at half time. this just seems to be constant breaks
 

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I've heard American football described as pussyfied rugby on a few occasions. There are similarities, and there are indeed more rules designed to keep the players from harm.

99% of the time, the team in possession of the ball is attempting to run, throw, or otherwise move the ball across the field in order to score. A touchdown (worth six points), occurs if they manage to get a teammate holding the ball into the endzone. A fieldgoal (worth three points) occurs if they kick the ball and it passes through those weird pole things at each end. A team that gets a touchdown has a chance immediately afterwards to kick the ball though those posts for one extra point. (they usually make it). There are two other ways to get points, but these are rare enough that I am not going into it.

The offensive team has four chances (called downs) to move the ball a total of ten yards, if they succeed, the count resets and a new ten yard mark is set. If they fail, the other team takes possession of the ball at their current location. More often than not, on the fourth down, the offensive team will kick the ball away, they will be either trying for a field goal, or willingly giving up the ball to the other team, but passing it further down the field in the process.

Possession of the ball can change hands mid play, sometimes more than once. This most often occurs when a defensive player intercepts and catches a pass. It can also occur by pulling the ball out of another's hands, or picking up a ball that was dropped.

Most of the other rules involve what kind of movement/contact is allowed, when the play ends, etc. This can get very complex. Was there anything in particular that puzzled you?

P.S. As to the name, the sport originated as a mismatched collection of games, many of which were kicking sports that were somewhere in between rugby and football. It wasn't until much later that it evolved to the sport it is now, but the name football stuck, even if it is less accurate than it used to be.

I'm not much for watching sports, but I have to say it was extremely fun to play. There's a lot of strategy to it, even for the defensive linemen like me whose job description is basically to keep people from moving through zone x.
 

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There's two teams. One team gets possession of the ball, they are on the offense, the other is on defense.

The offensive team will then try to make it all the way down the field with the ball in their possession, either by throwing it to players farther down field who then run with it, or by running the ball without being tackled to the ground. The offensive team have 4 downs (chances) to make it 10 more yards to renew their possession or make it to the goal line. The offensive team can score by having a player posses the ball in the endzone (either by caching the ball or running it in) resulting in 6 points, known as a "touchdown"(with an additional point if the kicker can kick the ball through the yellow goal post, or 2 additonal points by making a second "touchdown"), or they can kick the ball through the goal posts for 3 points.

The defensive tries to either tackle the quarterback(guy who throws the ball), block a thrown ball(pass) to another offensive palyer, or tackle a player running with the ball to the ground.

If one team scores, they kick the ball to the other team, who will catch the ball and run towards the opposing endzone to either score a touchdown or determine where they start their first down. When the offensive team runs out of downs, the ball is turned over to the other team to try and score points.
 

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can they pass forwards, in rugby you are only allowed to pass backwards. you can kick it forward to the other team to try and make up some ground though

so far the rules seem like a mash-up between rugby union, rugby league and real football (i refuse to call it soccer)

ive gathered that there are 2 teams which seems a bit weird and the fact you can tackle someone who doesnt have the ball
 

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Heronblade said:
I'm not much for watching sports, but I have to say it was extremely fun to play. There's a lot of strategy to it, even for the defensive linemen like me whose job description is basically to keep people from moving through zone x.
a defensive linesman is like a centre-back in normal football?
 

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Yes, forward passing is not only allowed but encouraged. The "easiest" way to gain a large amount of forward yardage is for the quarterback (the guy who gets the ball at the start of every offensive play) to throw the ball downfield to one of the designated receivers. Of course, being designated receivers, they are often closely covered by the defensive players so it's not as simple as just throwing the ball.

Yes, there are basically two teams on each team; one offensive and one defensive. It's a rare occurrence for a player who generally plays on the offensive side of his team to also play on the defensive side.
 

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shootthebandit said:
can they pass forwards, in rugby you are only allowed to pass backwards. you can kick it forward to the other team to try and make up some ground though

so far the rules seem like a mash-up between rugby union, rugby league and real football (i refuse to call it soccer)

ive gathered that there are 2 teams which seems a bit weird and the fact you can tackle someone who doesnt have the ball
They can pass forwards IF the passer is behind the spot where the team started at the beginning of the play. Usually you can only see the quarterback passing forward, but in reality any of them can. They can always pass backwards.

They have two teams mainly because the roles the players take on the field are a bit more specialized. Believe it or not, there is a big difference between the training given to the linemen (those guys who are always shoving on each other)depending on whether they will be playing offensively or defensively.

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Heronblade said:
I'm not much for watching sports, but I have to say it was extremely fun to play. There's a lot of strategy to it, even for the defensive linemen like me whose job description is basically to keep people from moving through zone x.
a defensive linesman is like a centre-back in normal football?
yes and no. The following is a general lineup, it can and often does change.

The blue Xs just above the center line are collectively known as the defensive linemen. Their primary job, generally speaking, is to prevent people on the offensive team from running the ball forward. If they get the chance, they will also put pressure on and attempt to tackle the quarterback if he still has the ball. A "blitz" is a slightly risky play in which the defensive linemen go all out in their attempt to breach the offensive line and reach the quarterback before they have a chance to get rid of the ball. The results can be a bit chaotic, but it can also payoff very effectively. The offensive team can lose a lot of ground this way, and it is not an unknown event for a defensive lineman to suddenly end up in possession of the ball as part of a blitz and have a clear run to the endzone. (They may or may not make that run, the linemen do tend to be slower and heavier.)
 

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Each team has eleven players on the field on the time that represents either the offense or defense. While some players may be brought in for both on occasion, most players are fully dedicated to one side or the other.

The point of the game is to get the ball down the field and into the "end zone". A drive to the end zone starts when one team kicks the ball the opposing team, either as a "kickoff" or as a "punt", or a team might even turn it over. At this point, the team with the ball uses their offensive players to try to get the ball down the field while the defensive players attempt to stop them from driving down the field. The offense essentially has four plays to move ten or more yards, and failure to move it this far will switch possession to the other team, and the other team will bring their own offense out to try to move it against the other team's defense. Normally, though, a team only attempts to gain ten yards every three plays and uses the fourth play to punt it to the other team. The strategies change, though, as you are nearing the end of a half, or near the end of the game.

On the defensive side, the players attempt to stop the ball from moving. Ideally, they want to sack the quarterback or tackle the running back before he reaches the "line of scrimmage", which is how far the ball was at the start of the play. Obviously, this makes it so the offensive team has to move further in order to achieve a "first down" (which results from the aforementioned ability to move the ball ten yards). It is also possible for the defense to cause the opponents to "fumble" by dropping the ball before the player hits the ground, or they may intercept a ball that the quarterback throws. If this happens, then the defenders can actually try to score for their own team.

On the kicking side (often referred to as "special teams"), one player punts or kicks the ball to the opponent. The "kickoff" is what happens at the start of a half or after a team scores. This cannot be blocked by the team returning the kickoff. If the ball goes into the opposite "end zone" or out of bounds behind the end zone, then the team can automatically start the drive at their own 20-yard line. If it goes out of bounds down the sideline, then I believe it goes to the 40-yard line (this is very rare, though). It's also possible for a team to try an "onside kick" in which the kicker tries to position the kick so that his own team recovers it, but it must go at least ten yards before his team touches the ball (this is very hard to accomplish and is very risky). The special teams also handles "field goals" and most "extra points", which are other ways to scores. The former is the result of getting close enough to the end zone for the kicker to kick it through the "goal" (not sure of the exact term) for three points, and the extra point is used to score one extra point on top of a touchdown, with a touchdown being six points (a potential for 7 overall). Sometimes, though, a team tries to make a short, one-play drive into the end zone for two extra points, giving a total of eight. Anyways, on the field goals and extra points, the other team wants to try to block the ball, but hitting the kicker is a huge no-no. There's also the possibility a team will punt the ball, which results from failing to reach a first down and failing to get within range for the kicker to go for a field goal. Again, the receiving team wants to block the punt, though there is the possibility that the team receiving the punt can run it in for a touchdown.

Now, this doesn't even begin to touch on what goes on behind the scenes. Both sides are constantly calling plays attempting to outthink the other team, and many times, the play will change even as every lines up (Peyton Manning, former quarterback of the Colts, now playing for the Broncos is famous for doing this). The offense wants to choose if they should run or pass the ball, and passing generally comes with a play that will allow multiple options for the quarterback, the guy passing the ball. The defense generally wants to find a way to stop whatever the offense is doing, and it requires picking the right play for the right situation. Obviously, how the players execute it, both in their perception of what is going on and in the more physical ways, does have an influence how each team does. Still, football is only a partially physical sport. So much of it does come down to the strategy, but I'm saying that as someone who finds the strategies more appealing than the actual physical nature of the sport.

That's pretty much the basics. Of course, watching the sport and listening to the announcers goes a long way in figuring out the sport.
 

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shootthebandit said:
I can only assume its a bit like rugby except they wear pads and theres a lot more breaks in play
I watched a bit of Rugby once and that sounds about right...also (and please forgive me if I'm wrong here) American Football isn't fucking insane. Let me try that again because American Football in fucking insane but not when it comes to gameplay (American Football is fucking insane when it comes to sponsorship, commercials, players being assholes, etc). Watching a game of Rugby and knowing nothing about the sport is a million times more entertaining than watching American Football with no prior knowledge.

I've been living in the American South for about 2 months now and I still have no idea what the appeal of American Football is...of course half of the people down here are more into College Football than the NFL which baffles me to no end.
 

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Pink Gregory said:
It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
Yeah, speaking of their goals, they don't have crossbars like a proper football goal, they're shaped like a Y. So what happens if a guy kicks the ball over the "imaginary crossbar"? Is it still considered a goal?

Also, I admit it looks like an interesting sport. The endless breaks between plays that last for about 10 seconds make me lose all interest, though. I don't understand anything about rugby either, but I find it more enjoyable simply because I feel like I'm actually watching a game of people chasing a ball.
 

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Wintermute said:
Pink Gregory said:
It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
Yeah, speaking of their goals, they don't have crossbars like a proper football goal, they're shaped like a Y. So what happens if a guy kicks the ball over the "imaginary crossbar"? Is it still considered a goal?

Also, I admit it looks like an interesting sport. The endless breaks between plays that last for about 10 seconds make me lose all interest, though. I don't understand anything about rugby either, but I find it more enjoyable simply because I feel like I'm actually watching a game of people chasing a ball.
Yes, all that matters is that it is between the uprights and above the lower bar. Getting it above the top would be rather impressive anyways given that the uprights are a minimum of 30 feet high, and the kicker will be as much as 180 feet away from the base (possibly more, but most kickers miss from that range.)
 

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Wintermute said:
Pink Gregory said:
It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
Yeah, speaking of their goals, they don't have crossbars like a proper football goal, they're shaped like a Y. So what happens if a guy kicks the ball over the "imaginary crossbar"? Is it still considered a goal?

Also, I admit it looks like an interesting sport. The endless breaks between plays that last for about 10 seconds make me lose all interest, though. I don't understand anything about rugby either, but I find it more enjoyable simply because I feel like I'm actually watching a game of people chasing a ball.
speaking of crossbar you reminded me of this "come on you gotta get it in there for 3 points". Im sure both fans of american football and real football will find this hilarious
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
(American Football is fucking insane when it comes to sponsorship, commercials, players being assholes, etc). Watching a game of Rugby and knowing nothing about the sport is a million times more entertaining than watching American Football with no prior knowledge.
you seemed to have hit the nail on the head, it just seems very commercial to me almost as if it was a game designed for TV whereas rugby and football have been adapted for TV. American football seems a bit over complicated for the sake of being over complicated

normal football is very simple, two teams of 11 and each team has to put the ball in the other teams net without using their hands or arms (except the keeper). if a player is forward of the last defender when the ball is played to them then its offside. if the attacking side hits the ball past the goal the opposing goalkeeper gets the ball, if the defending team hit it out and its a corner for the attacking team. thats pretty much all you need to know, its an easy game to follow
 

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shootthebandit said:
Real/proper/original/beautiful football is very simple, two teams of 11 and each team has to put the ball in the other teams net without using their hands or arms (except the keeper). if a player is forward of the last defender when the ball is played to them then its offside. if the attacking side hits the ball past the goal the opposing goalkeeper gets the ball, if the defending team hit it out and its a corner for the attacking team. thats pretty much all you need to know, its an easy game to follow
Fix'd...!

Anyway, there's a reason why we know it as the 'beautiful game', because played as it should be, it's a free-flowing and fast-paced game that takes a 90 minute match 105 minutes to play (not four hours for a one hour game). It is the ideal combination of technical skill and athletic aesthetic.

Pity about the money... and on to rugby. In RFU a 5-pointer is a 'try', but in American football, the equivalent is a 'touchdown'... but they don't even touch the 'ball' down... to score a 'touchdown', you just need to cross the goal-line.

Anyway... typical animosity and quibbling aside, 'football' is actually an old English catch all term for ball sports played on foot (to distinguish it from stuff like polo... or jousting... ¬_¬ ...!). So American Football is actually, accurately, a form of 'football'.
 

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Pink Gregory said:
It's called 'football', but it's played with the hands. Except sometimes everyone lets someone kick it. Also their goals are suspended in the air.

What's up with that?
Don't think anyone has answered this yet, but it's called football because the ball is a foot long from tip to tip.
 

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Since the basic rules and such have already been answered, I would like to further the discussion regarding the legitimacy of the name "football".

Since football (UK), is played with a ball (sphere) and feet (foot), American football should be renamed to Hand-Egg as it is played with an egg like object in one's hand.

All in favor?

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Don't think anyone has answered this yet, but it's called football because the ball is a foot long from tip to tip.
Nevermind.
 

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This is the last place to get Football explained.

Basically it goes like this.

You have two teams, both trying to score points, by the end of the game the team with the most points win.

You can score by moving the ball into the opponent's end zone, either by running with it or passing to an eligible receiver in the end zone.

You can score by kicking the ball through the goal posts at the end of the field.

You can score a safety, which happens if you are tackled in your own end zone or commit a penalty when in your own end zone.

To begin a game the kicking team kicks the ball to the receiving team. The receiving team then trys to run the ball back towards the kicking team's end zone. Where ever they are downed, they start play from. So if they get the ball to their own 30 yard line they start play from there.

They get 4 plays to make it 10 yards. If they make it 10 yards they get another 4 plays, or "downs". Typically an announcer will say how many downs and how many yards to go until 1st down. So if you hear 3rd and 8, that means this is the third play they get to run and they have 8 yards until another first down.

There are a lot more details but that should give you the basics of how the game is played.