Can the Xbox One be justified?

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Krais101

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Okay, so I have pretty much been an Xbox gamer since my father bought me an original Xbox when I was 10. I upgraded to the 360 as soon as I could, and now look at the new Xbox... and I just can't justify buying it over the PS4. Can anyone give me ANY good reasons to support the Xbox One? Xbox has been a major part of my childhood. Heck, my father and I really bonded over gaming. I want to support the Xbox one, but I just can't see why I should and quite frankly that disappoints me

EDIT: Are there any GOOD features? Which would be better for local multiplayer? Which is likely to have a good 3rd party support?
 

Yassen

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I know how you feel. The only justification I can come up with for buying the Xbox One would be if you're really determined to get the exclusives. The only other example (which I'm struggling with now) is transferring of save files, all my Dragon Age and Mass Effect save files are on my Xbox. But I've decided to just give them the finger and buy the games again on PC (and sell the discs, just for an extra fuck you).
 

9thRequiem

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There are good reasons for it - there's a few other forum posts on a similar vein; enough so that I've been complained at for making similar posts in each outlining them, so I won't go into details here. This thing is, it just hinges greatly on your own personal situation.

See
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.410433-Poll-Who-IS-buying-the-Xbox-One
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.818591-Why-Should-I-Buy-the-Xbone
 

Manji187

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Trying to justify the unjustifiable requires disingenuous assertions and some semantic acrobatics.

Being grateful for the good times is one thing, being taken in the ass with a hammer drill quite another. Clearly there is no need for loyalty at this point.

EDIT: Excuse the rant, but why would you want to assist MS in getting away with some fucked up business decisions/ practices?
 

Zeh Don

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I had this exact same problem. I literally sat down and went over every issue, before coming to my own conclusion.

I have a fairly reliable internet connection, but I also moved house this year and didn't have the internet for nearly a month. I don't like the idea of my incredibly expensive gaming machine being worthless should that happen again.
While it honestly wouldn't be problematic from my end, what if people decide to hit Microsoft's server farms with DDoS attacks - exactly like what happened with Sony - and bring down their servers for a month?
Being reliant on the internet isn't a problem, until there is no internet. And it's a two way road, reliant on Microsoft being always online. Forever. It's introducing a problem that we don't have now and, honestly, it's not giving me any benefits in return.
That's not even covering the ethical implications of treating your entire customer base like criminals.

The used game issue is also one that doesn't effect me, as I generally by my games new anyway. But, I do buy used games - especially if there is a fairly robust used game sale going on, giving me an opportunity to buy a game I otherwise wouldn't have. With Publishers in control of the used game market, retailers wouldn't be able to introduce those types of sales anymore - meaning I have access to fewer games, and I'm less likely to discover new IPs as a result.
And that's not even covering the ethical implications of removing the concept of ownership and denying said ownership to your entire customer base.

The TV functionality and Kinect inclusion also doesn't effect me - but that's kind of the problem. It should effect me. It should scream out to me "This is why you want an Xbone", that all of a sudden not having these features makes my life worse. Instead, I can't access the TV functions because I'm not American, and Kinect has been basically ignored by Microsoft save for it's voice commands. For all of the song and dance Microsoft have made about these features, and the dramatic impact it's had on the console's retail price, they've utterly failed to explain why I should pay for it, other than because they want me to.

As for the games, virtually all of their major titles so far are multi-platform, available on either the PS4 or PC, or both. And since the E3 conferences, and the unprecedented backlash Microsoft have received, many Developers and Publishers have indicated a strong desire to bring their games to "other platforms". This isn't exactly filling me with confidence. Their one saving grace is also my favourite gaming franchise: Halo.
Believe me, I sat and looked over my large collection of Halo games - I own every one released at retail - and asked myself if I could give up on such an amazing universe. Ultimately, I decided that it wasn't me giving up on Halo - it was Microsoft giving up on me.

After looking at what the console cost, what I received in return, and what I had to give up in order to play inferior versions of some games, most of which will be made available on other platforms... no. There is no logical, reasonable or rational way to justify the Xbone.

They done goofed.
 

Krais101

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Manji187 said:
Trying to justify the unjustifiable requires disingenuous assertions and some semantic acrobatics.

Being grateful for the good times is one thing, being taken in the ass with a hammer drill quite another. Clearly there is no need for loyalty at this point.

EDIT: Excuse the rant, but why would you want to assist MS in getting away with some fucked up business decisions/ practices?
Call me an optimist, but I guess I'm hoping it won't be as bad as it looks. They've built up customer loyalty in me, they have provided me with hours of fun, both alone and with friends, and I don't want to believe that the same company that brought me so much joy can be this bad.
 

Manji187

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Krais101 said:
Manji187 said:
Trying to justify the unjustifiable requires disingenuous assertions and some semantic acrobatics.

Being grateful for the good times is one thing, being taken in the ass with a hammer drill quite another. Clearly there is no need for loyalty at this point.

EDIT: Excuse the rant, but why would you want to assist MS in getting away with some fucked up business decisions/ practices?
Call me an optimist, but I guess I'm hoping it won't be as bad as it looks. They've built up customer loyalty in me, they have provided me with hours of fun, both alone and with friends, and I don't want to believe that the same company that brought me so much joy can be this bad.
Whatever you want to call it (attachment to the past, hopes for the future, customer loyalty), it is no reason to disregard the facts, which do not look good at all. Sure, things could turn out relatively okay, but it is obviously better to wait and see whether they actually will. Also, I'm sure Sony/ Nintendo/ PC can provide hours of fun just as easily.
 

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Krais101 said:
Call me an optimist, but I guess I'm hoping it won't be as bad as it looks. They've built up customer loyalty in me, they have provided me with hours of fun, both alone and with friends, and I don't want to believe that the same company that brought me so much joy can be this bad.
If it makes you feel any better, PC gamers went through this about 9 months ago.

The conclusion?

Yes. It really can be that bad. I think a lot of us are sticking with Windows 7 or moving to the suddenly very attractive Ubuntu gaming scene.

...Unintentional metaphor. Stick with your 360 or put your loyalty in a company that doesn't actively hate you, would be my advice.