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Ok so I'm listening to a really good audiobook right now, the Way of Kings/Words of Radiance books by Brandon Sanderson, and I'm loving it....buuuuut.

There is one character in the series that hits almost every one of my "oh for fuck's sake!" buttons. So I felt like partially venting my frustration, and sharing my dislike for this archetype of character.

It's what I usually call the "Girl with a TERRIBAD AWFUL NO GOOD SECRET PAIN AND PAST!!!".

Common traits for this character.

1. She has some dark past crime/sin/transgression that she has mentally locked away.

2. She can't even think about it, and any mention of it will make her shut down and withdraw into a near catatonic state of "not listening, not listening, don't think, don't think, lalalalalal" crap.

3. She has most likely run away from this past, and is pretending to be someone else in another location, and has a pathological fear of anyone finding out who she was, feeling if she can just hide from her past, then it didn't happen to her, and instead was someone else.

4. She will lie, manipulate, cheat, steal, and do pretty much anything morally/criminally wrong to protect her secret, even from her friends/allies. Justifying this behavior as being ok, because anything is allowed to hide her secret.

5. The actions of point 4 frequently will end up making the overall plot much worse for the heroes, and is frequently the driving force behind "Everything turning to shit".

6. When her secret is inevitably revealed, almost every time, her friends will still accept and love her, and not shun her like she assumes they will. So all of her self driven paranoia/guilt is in the end, pointless, and is hand waved away by her friends, without any actual repercussions.

Note to 6: Many times, the action done by the woman isn't actually very bad at all, or is totally justified in the situation e.g. Killing someone in self defense, but she feels she murdered them because of her own fucked up mental processes. Which further frustrates the issue, in that all of the above mentioned shit, was basically only because the woman was wrapped up in her own fucking drama, and couldn't see past herself to do anything productive. And she's then embraced lovingly and all that crap at the end.

I can't accurately describe, without using all caps and many profanities, how much I hate this character type in stories. I just...gah! It pisses me off so much. I find myself rolling my eyes, and growling in frustration when one of them pops up in a book/movie, and fast forwarding through their drama shit to something, anything else.

So what character archetype do you hate?

capcha phrase: Yellow Belly, oddly fitting given the context of my archetype.
 

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Arrogant dick who mistreats everyone around him but gets away with it because he's just that good.

Examples include Tony Stark in the Marvel movies and Sherlock Holmes from the new-ish BBC show.

Can be funny to watch at first, but quickly gets on my nerves.
 

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Zhukov said:
Arrogant dick who mistreats everyone around him but gets away with it because he's just that good.

Examples include Tony Stark in the Marvel movies and Sherlock Holmes from the new-ish BBC show.

Can be funny to watch at first, but quickly gets on my nerves.
In all fairness I think RDJ's Tony Stark is far more neurotic than you're giving him credit for. And its the neurosis that causes him to be something of a prick at times, its not so much that hes a prick and he gets away with it because hes just so good at everything he does. And RDJ does a really good job of displaying the neurotic nature of his character.
 

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None, I think.

Any character type can be enjoyable if done well. Ryan Gosling is a quiet, non-emotive guy in Drive, and I love him. Aaron Taylor-Johnson is a quiet, non-emotive guy in Godzilla, and I fucking dispise him (and the movie). Joel is a grizzled angry man with a tragic past in The Last of Us, and I think he's terrific. Kratos is a grizzled angry man with a tragic past in God of War, and... well, you know.

However, the smart-mouthed kid can generally fuck right off.
 

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Pr0 said:
Grizzled angsty white dudes with anger management issues.
Yeah, this one get's old fast.


Zhukov said:
Arrogant dick who mistreats everyone around him but gets away with it because he's just that good.

Examples include Tony Stark in the Marvel movies and Sherlock Holmes from the new-ish BBC show.

Can be funny to watch at first, but quickly gets on my nerves.
Agreed, though I personally don't have that issue with Tony Stark. I think mostly because his movies usually revolve around him growing into less of a selfish dick, and thus acting less like that. That's usually a key point in his movies, that yeah he starts out dickish, but becomes more kind over time. Of course this is sort of hampered by him still acting like this at the beginning of each new movie, but I see what you mean.


slo said:
I hate moe characters. Dumb is not cute.
Can you give me an example or two of a moe? I'm drawing a blank on what you are describing.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Pr0 said:
Grizzled angsty white dudes with anger management issues.
Yeah, this one get's old fast.


Zhukov said:
Arrogant dick who mistreats everyone around him but gets away with it because he's just that good.

Examples include Tony Stark in the Marvel movies and Sherlock Holmes from the new-ish BBC show.

Can be funny to watch at first, but quickly gets on my nerves.
Agreed, though I personally don't have that issue with Tony Stark. I think mostly because his movies usually revolve around him growing into less of a selfish dick, and thus acting less like that. That's usually a key point in his movies, that yeah he starts out dickish, but becomes more kind over time. Of course this is sort of hampered by him still acting like this at the beginning of each new movie, but I see what you mean.


slo said:
I hate moe characters. Dumb is not cute.
Can you give me an example or two of a moe? I'm drawing a blank on what you are describing.
Think teenage girl, think ditzy to the point of maybe needing to be on the shortbus. Think high pitched female voice and I think maybe being over clingy and doing the baby talk thing. That's a pretty rough description of Moe in Japanese media as I understand it.
 

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I immensely dislike the brand of Tsundere characters that are hostile and rude to everyone by default but are expected to get a free pas on it because there have been a few select scenes where they act as decent human beings.

If your only a decent human being for a select few instances then your still a bad person.
 

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1. You got the good guy tied up? Good!
You got a loaded gun? Good, good!
You gonna talk to that guy for 30 min while his sidekick finds his way in and kicks your ass? Fuck off. I really want to cheer you on, but your incompetency is leaking everywhere.

2. Moe. Jeebus F. Chraist.

3. Annoying kid character. You are going to be left right here if you don't stop complaining.
 

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slo said:
Gordon_4 said:
Happyninja42 said:
slo said:
I hate moe characters. Dumb is not cute.
Can you give me an example or two of a moe? I'm drawing a blank on what you are describing.
Think teenage girl, think ditzy to the point of maybe needing to be on the shortbus. Think high pitched female voice and I think maybe being over clingy and doing the baby talk think. That's a pretty rough description of Moe in Japanese media as I understand it.
Yes, that's the stuff. Big head, big eyes, sounds rather that words, helpless, oblivious, clumsy, bumps into things, scared of pretty much everything...
These characters are supposed to be adorable, but in most cases they are overdone straight into the uncanny walley.
Ah, ok yes, I gotcha. I dislike that one too. Though the Manic Pixie Dream Girl variant of that is probably my more hated version. Usually because she's often played by Zoe Deschenecheshasharashshananel. Hate that woman's acting. She's like an emotionless, wide eyed doll who pantomimes being a human, yet somehow I'm supposed to see her as vibrant and endearing, and she's just not. Nor is her sister over on Bones. *shudders*
 

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Weak wimpy kid in school who's bullied (not a mandatory requirement) but has a cute female "childhood friend" (note the sarcasm quotes), and wants to protect the ones he loves, but doesn't have the strength or the courage but if he gains strength and courage then he can have the strength and courage to protect the ones he cares about with his strength and courage and courage and strength and strength and courage and strength... you get the point. The Breaker and History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi can go tag-team a woodchipper.

I'm hesitant to even use the term "tsundere", because I don't read much manga or watch much anime to begin with, but if Asuka from Evangelion is the grandmother of tsundere characters, then you can count all of them as well. I hate that *****.
 

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The bully. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBully] I hate this trope, because it's so very rare for a bully to actually be needed for the story. It's as if the creators just wanted one for its own sake.
 

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bartholen said:
Weak wimpy kid in school who's bullied (not a mandatory requirement) but has a cute female "childhood friend" (note the sarcasm quotes), and wants to protect the ones he loves, but doesn't have the strength or the courage but if he gains strength and courage then he can have the strength and courage to protect the ones he cares about with his strength and courage and courage and strength and strength and courage and strength... you get the point. The Breaker and History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi can go tag-team a woodchipper.

I'm hesitant to even use the term "tsundere", because I don't read much manga or watch much anime to begin with, but if Asuka from Evangelion is the grandmother of tsundere characters, then you can count all of them as well. I hate that *****.
I'm inclined to be accepting of Asuka since her justification for her emotional flip-flopping is a genuinely deep seated childhood trauma instead of just being someone incapable of reining in their temper or just admitting they like someone (and this includes the lads as well) without what looks like a psychotic episode.


Queen Michael said:
The bully. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBully] I hate this trope, because it's so very rare for a bully to actually be needed for the story. It's as if the creators just wanted one for its own sake.
Easy hate sinks, that's usually what it's for, but it can help with identifying the protagonist since regardless of our response we've all probably had that one douche who hates us for no reason.
 

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The hot headed arrogant type who thinks he's hot shit. Seriously I had never met any guy who acted like that AND still be successful in the first running!

Ok sure there had a been a time it can be done right but at this one, any character that fall into that type will just become a generic bland hothead in my eyes. The worse example of the main character from Digimon Frontier that he was soo hothead to the point of stupidity (one episode he got into a fight with his digimon and he still proceed to fight a rouge digimon with his fist)!
 

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The intentionally annoying and stupid character.

Yes, I get it, he's supposed to be annoying. But that means I just want said character to GO THE FUCK AWAY. (See Bolin at his worst in Korra. He seems to have...mostly grown out of it though. Fucking Season 2...)
 

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The ass-kicking female that meets a man and instantly stops kicking ass just so she can be saved by said man.

I had very real worries for Tauriel after Peter Jackson shoehorned in that painful "this elf falls in love with a dwarf really fast" romance angle, that she would get in deep with orcs only to be rescued by Kili, so I was pleasantly surprised when she continued to save him. It's an incredibly stupid plot twist that insults the audience because they think we don't believe anyone can fall in love without the woman being saved by the man, and it just horribly undermines the characterization of the female.

It's a way to say, "We've got a strong female character" while still using the same lazy ass tropes that can, at worst, be called sexist.