I recently read something about ERP in World of warcraft. It stated one of the biggest reasons it should not be allowed in mmo's is because children might be exposed to sexual content they are not ready for. Then it clicked in my head. Most Online games have either a teen or mature rating. It even states that when online a rating can suddenly change to mature. I remember when i use to play wow. there would be guilds that did not allow swearing cause a 10 year old was in the guild and his parents did not want him to be around swear language. This always bugged me. If someone is not mature enough to handle mature content or adult language. ARE they indeed mature enough to socialize with adults on a regular basis. Any online game especially mmo's revolve around the community. And for a lot of people if you are to enjoy the game you need to be surrounded by mature intelligent players that are capable of there core role in any aspect of the game that requires group effort. My point is IF a child is not mature enough to handle mature content. is he really mature enough to socialize with adults and add to the gameplay experience of his surrounding players or simply hold them back and ruin their game play experience. should 5 people now have to suffer a headache and annoyance on the game they paid for just so one kid could play? What does everyone else thing about this?
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Ironically, in most MMOs, it's the kids that are swearing and making vulgar sexual references. The kids are corrupting me, not the other way round.
No, I don't think that 5 people should have to suffer just so one kid can play.
This isn't really based on any caring for the kid and whatever filthy stuff his parents don't want bursting in their sheltered bubble...
It's more based on the fact that online, kids are frakkin' annoying!
High pitched voices that never shut the hell up and make racist and homophobic accusations to you while threatening to violate your mother.
In a perfect world, children wouldn't exist let alone be allowed to play online games.
This isn't really based on any caring for the kid and whatever filthy stuff his parents don't want bursting in their sheltered bubble...
It's more based on the fact that online, kids are frakkin' annoying!
High pitched voices that never shut the hell up and make racist and homophobic accusations to you while threatening to violate your mother.
In a perfect world, children wouldn't exist let alone be allowed to play online games.
Thats actualy an annoyance too. and again when adults swear. Now first thing im saying is this is generalizing. i know its not true for everyone. But when you find the right group people swear its appropriate for the time frame. But when kids swear its "fuck this shit that fuckign ****** asss shit is bull shit wtf is up with that fucking dumb ass shit" Once again. Why do kids feel they have a "RIGHT" to play online games. Its a privlidge you have to work for if you ask meDaystar Clarion said:
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If you don't like a "kid-friendly" guild then why not change to a different one? It's probably best there should be different rated guilds for whatever experience the player desires. Although I don't play any online games I personally can't stand excessive swearing and would far rather be in a guild where some of its members are reasonbly mature children as opposed to being in one where it's population is composed entirely of adults who think they're mature because they can put a swear word in every sentence.
sorry that wasnt wrote out properly. Thats how the kids talk. They put swear words in every other word. But its not just about moving guilds and changing guilds. Its about finding a random group. Meeting new people and having that whole experience ruined because some kid is doing what i said and swearing the whole time. The worst part about the situation is. Sometimes it plays out like this. Healer joins guild. Healer brings son into guild. we start talking and someone say somethign random from a movie or t/v show or just something funny that involves a swear word or sex. Mom gets offended..causes all this drama. that could have simply been avoided had she not put her kid into a mature group of people. and now the guild starts to split down the line all because a kid wanted to associate with a large group of adults and wasnt ready for itJoJoDeathunter said:
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I'm going to be honest: I'm not quite sure what you're trying to claim here. You seem to be describing two seperate problems in the above text:osg87 said:
1. Kids swearing excessively on online games.
2. Parents getting annoyed at kids being exposed to mature content online.
Is is both or one which annoy you?
Just throwing this out there - I've been in a guild where one of the guild member's 12 year old daughter was also a guild member - and would occasionally play. Her dad asked us not to swear when she was on.
Was this a problem? No - because the rest of us were adults and were mature enough to respect his wishes as a parent.
I think there is some reasonable room to be concerned about whether a kid is mature enough to socialize with adults in a game, that's a debate you could totally have, but I think gettig bent out of shape over being asked, as an adult, to respect the fact that you're playing with kids simply belies one's own immaturity.
In the case of ERP - those elements can make even many adults uncomfortable. And bans on ERP in games like wow are not just about protecting little timmy from hearing two night elves discuss the sensual effect of having one of those long, shapely ears dragging down the length of grimwald the hunter's sweating, chiseled abs, as azalea the druid made her way, gradually and teasingly down to his pulsing-
There's a place for things like that, and it's really not in a T rated game, despite the ESRB warning of "gameplay experience may change online".
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Was this a problem? No - because the rest of us were adults and were mature enough to respect his wishes as a parent.
I think there is some reasonable room to be concerned about whether a kid is mature enough to socialize with adults in a game, that's a debate you could totally have, but I think gettig bent out of shape over being asked, as an adult, to respect the fact that you're playing with kids simply belies one's own immaturity.
In the case of ERP - those elements can make even many adults uncomfortable. And bans on ERP in games like wow are not just about protecting little timmy from hearing two night elves discuss the sensual effect of having one of those long, shapely ears dragging down the length of grimwald the hunter's sweating, chiseled abs, as azalea the druid made her way, gradually and teasingly down to his pulsing-
There's a place for things like that, and it's really not in a T rated game, despite the ESRB warning of "gameplay experience may change online".
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Technically, they shouldn't be playing that game in the first place. World of Warcraft has a 16+ rating doesnt it? If I were in that guild, I'd ask the kid if I could talk to there parents, then explain that if they don't want there kid exposed to that kind of thing, why the hell should a whole group of people have the game they're paying for ruined by a brat who shouldn't even be playing in the first place? You can't buy a mature game then ask for it to be extra special for you, and only you. Fuck that kid and his parents.
When I play on XBox Live, it's usually kids who are the ones calling people racial, sexual and homophobic slurs.Daystar Clarion said:
Actualy erp is what got me started on the subject. i have no care about erp personally. The part that bugs me is Now on my free time. something i do to relax me from work or just to sit down enjoy and have fun. You know my Own extra curricular activity im forced to not be able to play and say how or what i want. MY free time is ruined simply because a child isnt ready to handle mature content and is now put in a mature situationMatt_LRR said:
MMOs are a twisted version of IRL. It's unusual for a 12 to regulary socialise with a random 23 year old irl.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but, just because it's a "game", it doesn't mean it's a "children's" game.
It's real life, in another universe.
I guess shit still happens and people are still shit, in all age bands.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but, just because it's a "game", it doesn't mean it's a "children's" game.
It's real life, in another universe.
I guess shit still happens and people are still shit, in all age bands.
its a combination of both actualy. and they actually coincide quite well. Children are not mature enough to socialize with adults and excessivley swear at annoying times . parents getting annoyed is an annoyance as well. IF you dont want your kids to be exposed to the content. Its as simple as not letting them play. If they whine and cry oh well deal with it. Its the parents job to decide what there young children are and are not ready for. Not mine Im not at work. im not being payed to play the game. IM PAYING to play it. i should be able to play the way i want when i want as long as im not ruining others who pay to play like. Children tend to bring down everyone elses time they payed for..thats just not fairJoJoDeathunter said:
And as I said - I think the fact that you consider this to be a big enough deal that you need to post about it on a forum speaks to a lack of maturity on your part.osg87 said:
If you're an adult, act like it - either respect the fact that you're in a guild that requires you not to swear, or change guilds to one that'll allow you to say or do what you want. This is such a small-potatoes kinda thing, it's silly to be concerned about it. You're the responsible one, act like it.
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World of Warcraft is not for kids, it handles with society team work and other key fundamental things in life most WoW players are responsible grown ups with jobs and kids to look after, they schedule their WoW time with there family's and are very responsible compared with other people we see in life /End Troll
When I was playing WoW, back in the day, a member of my guild commented that the ears of male night elves bounced but the females' ears did not. I replied to this that the female night elves still had plenty of bounce. Immediately I was messaged by her father informing me that she 9 and that the comment would go right over her head. That having been said, she only ever played when her mother, father, or uncle was on with her and the rest of just learned to keep guild chat rated G while she was online. And she was a delight to have in the guild, so it was okay.
I like ERP as much as the next person, but I always did it by PM. I don't think that is too much to ask, is it?
I like ERP as much as the next person, but I always did it by PM. I don't think that is too much to ask, is it?
I quite agree, most parents seem to be blithely unaware, presumably having forgotten from their own childhood, that kids (5-12) practically use swear words for punctuation. plus that they have far less of a conscience or moral compass than an adult and are basically devil spawn.Daystar Clarion said:
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Um... no they don't. Not in my area at-least, I can only remember one time in the last few years I heard an under-13 swear (couple of boys about 10 or 11) and I remember because it shocked me. Excessive swearing is more like 13-16 age range.Continuity said:
Kids swearing has always been a problem to me, I do not mind if a person swears once in a while, but when a kid gets on and you shoot his character and the kid all of a sudden calls you the N-word about twenty times in a row(which did happen to me) it does get really annoying. I prefer to play with people who are about 17 or 18 and older.