China's crackdown on well stuff

[Dwarvenhobble]

Not to sound too skeptical, but where are you getting those solutions from? They aren't in the article and I didn't find a link to anywhere else. All I'm getting from that article is trying to curb addictions and kid's access to micro transactions, which honestly makes sense to me.

Also, some monopoly busting regarding music streaming. (Side note, we should kill Spotify)

China targets video gaming to tackle myopia in children

New restrictions will try to tackle rising levels of near-sightedness among children.

www.bbc.co.uk

Chinese tech giants look to make business changes in a bid to preempt regulators

Chinese regulators have introduced new rules in areas from anti-monopoly to data security. Big tech firms are looking to get ahead of the rules.

www.cnbc.com

I presume you meant the myopia comment

 

[Trunkage]

1) Thing is I'm against both government and private corporations getting too much power / control and influence.

I see that the corporate congress won't be any better than the present governments and might end up far worse. I'd rather now have Atlus Shrugged or Continuum become how things play out.

2) Hard cap restrictions from the government are a bit different to parents allowing stuff. 1 hour a day means that all the time. Schools out? oh you still only get 1 hour. Done well on a test and it's the weekend? Too bad 1 hour only. Reaching a point in the game where you need a few more minutes to finish? Too bad 1 hour only.

4) Oddly it may be one of the more sinister ones (outside of the camps and organ harvesting stuff) at least in terms of goals because it's social engineering stuff at the end of the day it's about making people and kids focus on what the government sees as productive and making them the most productive cogs in the machine they can be rather than seeing them as people.

I don't disagree with any of this, expect that this particular policy isn't close to being as bad as even the one child policy, let alone actually criminal stuff. Social credit in China, as a whole disturbing, and this is does not live up to that.

As to cogs in the machine... I keep getting told, 'Stop worrying about COVID. Stop the lockdowns and get back to work.' In fact, that's the whole premise of the attack on the 'welfare state'. That's way more insidious than restricting video game time. (Again, I'll repeat, I'm not for this policy, I just understand that I do something similar to my own kids for their 'benefit.')

Lastly, I'll add I don't know if China can pull it off. People there get around the government firewall all the time. It'll probably just lead to students becoming better hackers.

 

[Trunkage]

This seems like the fallacy of relative privation. "It could be worse!"

If something is presented as bad, pointing out that there are worse things is not a refutation of the argument.
If all you want to say is that it's not "that big of a deal", then that's fine, but it could be construed as trying to defending it or attempting to downplay it.

I think the point is that all government overreach into the realm of human rights, including the rights of parents to raise their own children how they see fit, needs to be noted and resisted.

Point it out. I'm going to focus on the human rights that kill people first.

 

[Revnak]

First they came for the gamers

 

[Avnger]

First they came for the gamers

Obligatory:

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

I don't disagree with any of this, expect that this particular policy isn't close to being as bad as even the one child policy, let alone actually criminal stuff. Social credit in China, as a whole disturbing, and this is does not live up to that.

As to cogs in the machine... I keep getting told, 'Stop worrying about COVID. Stop the lockdowns and get back to work.' In fact, that's the whole premise of the attack on the 'welfare state'. That's way more insidious than restricting video game time. (Again, I'll repeat, I'm not for this policy, I just understand that I do something similar to my own kids for their 'benefit.')

Lastly, I'll add I don't know if China can pull it off. People there get around the government firewall all the time. It'll probably just lead to students becoming better hackers.

I'm sorry are you upset that despite in many topics over the years I've called out China's actions as bad but in the current events board I posted about current events specifically and specifically posted the thread about current events to talk about those current events?