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Escapefromwhatever

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After noticing this article from CNN [http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/03/30/japan.video.game.rape/index.html?hpt=C2] on my homepage, I just had to post it here. It concerns the game RapeLay, as well as the very old, though CNN describes it as if it is new, controversy that came with it. Basically, it ends up boiling down to this: should Japan ban games such as this, especially since they have now reached international attention?

I find this intriguing. Honestly, I'm slightly offended that someone would even ask this question. I don't feel like we, as Westerners, have the right to say that Japan shouldn't release media with content such as this, especially considering how much we are supposed to respect freedom of speech. It just comes of as if people are judging a culture they don't know very well harshly because they find something in it, which they are unwilling to look at through the eyes of the place from which it emerged, objectionable. Granted, this is not to say that rape is approved of in Japan, but rather to state that the game itself may not be considered strange there, at least by some portion of the population, and that we don't really have a right to impede upon their culture with our own.

So basically, rather than the controversy surrounding RapeLay, I'd rather this discussion be about examples of cultural imperialism, from any culture against any other, in video games. For instance, is it really proper to criticize certain gameplay elements that may be popular in Japanese games when these titles are released in the west?
 

Dr. wonderful

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It took them how long again?
Edit: I mean really, this game was out so many years ago, it's a crappy game that not even worth the game case it was included with.

CNN needs some new stories.

 

Cherry Cola

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Is it proper to criticize foreign gameplay elements?

Hell to the yes. My standards are always the same, foreign game or not. They can't pull the culture-card and claim that it makes them immune to my criticism.
 

Mr. Grey

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I don't see the point in criticizing them, no.

They have their culture no matter how disgusting I find it to be and we are probably equally disgusting to them. Or something more poetic but down those lines.
 

sanomaton

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Well, I think people from the Western cultures have done this all along ever since they realized their culture is "better than other cultures" or whatever. Whenever Western countries see something is different in another culture they state that it's wrong and the culture in question should change to be more like the Western culture. I guess the same goes with this.

I'm not sure whether I'm encouraging the Japanese game developers to promote this game but I'm not sure whether they should pull it out of the market either because in Japan it's just another game. My point is Western countries shouldn't be meddling in these kinds of things when it doesn't concern them in any way. I just don't see the point of all the hassle about a game that's being sold on the other side of the friggin' world.
 

Kajin

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This is funny. Let them do what they want, we have no right to tell them what they can and can't do.

I'm probably one of the few people here who actually played the game in question. I downloaded it so I could see what all the fuss was about when the thing with amazon first made waves. To put it bluntly, this is one of the few occasions where feminists have said something and I agreed with it wholeheartedly.
 

GundamSentinel

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Morals are relative, especially obvious when dealing with different cultures. I may not like it, I might criticize it, but that shouldn't mean it should be prohibited to produce or play such games. Rather the game than RL (wait, what?).
 

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Wow, CNN is just a wee bit slow it seems.

And I say leave it be. The only thing we should be criticizing is if they want to sell them outside of the country. Anything else, and its their country and their policies. Not the problem of people crying in other countries.
 

lacktheknack

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I read the title, and my heart sank into my shoes. As if this needed MORE attention...
 

Kajin

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Hubilub said:
Is it proper to criticize foreign gameplay elements?

Hell to the yes. My standards are always the same, foreign game or not. They can't pull the culture-card and claim that it makes them immune to my criticism.
You also don't have to buy the game. They aren't pulling the culture card because they aren't trying to sell it to you in the first place. That game was never intended to be released outside the U.S. and the target market was people who actually like the stuff in question.

You're still free to criticize it, but in the end your criticism is meaningless.
 

Cherry Cola

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Kajin said:
Hubilub said:
Is it proper to criticize foreign gameplay elements?

Hell to the yes. My standards are always the same, foreign game or not. They can't pull the culture-card and claim that it makes them immune to my criticism.
You also don't have to buy the game. They aren't pulling the culture card because they aren't trying to sell it to you in the first place. That game was never intended to be released outside the U.S. and the target market was people who actually like the stuff in question.

You're still free to criticize it, but in the end your criticism is meaningless.
My criticism is most likely always meaningless.

[sub]Damn you harsh reality![/sub]
 
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Hubilub said:
Is it proper to criticize foreign gameplay elements?

Hell to the yes. My standards are always the same, foreign game or not. They can't pull the culture-card and claim that it makes them immune to my criticism.
Criticism, yes. Enforcement, no.

As a side note, does Tiger Woods deserve to stop using the word "spaz" for his game-play?

In general, English people would say yes, Americans wouldn't understand the problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic
 

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Way to stay on top of things, CNN.

America has a far higher number of reported rapes (per capita) than Japan - something like 18x last I checked. Those in glass houses shouldn't criticise other cultures raep games. Focus on solving the actual rapes, then go after the fictional ones.
 

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The US has as much right to condemn Japan for making that game as India has to condemn the US for making cheeseburgers.

Unless they tried to export it to the US legally when I wasn't looking.

/hyperbole is fun
 

Kajin

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Hubilub said:
Kajin said:
Hubilub said:
Is it proper to criticize foreign gameplay elements?

Hell to the yes. My standards are always the same, foreign game or not. They can't pull the culture-card and claim that it makes them immune to my criticism.
You also don't have to buy the game. They aren't pulling the culture card because they aren't trying to sell it to you in the first place. That game was never intended to be released outside the U.S. and the target market was people who actually like the stuff in question.

You're still free to criticize it, but in the end your criticism is meaningless.
My criticism is most likely always meaningless.

[sub]Damn you harsh reality![/sub]
Someone who realizes this? How unusual.