COD 4 perks

[Gunn01]

Is there any such thing as a cheap perk? All i hear over the mic during a game is f****** Juggernaut. From what I gather people look down on this perk. So in your opinion is this a cheap perk? and are there any other perks that could be considered cheap ?

I Myself think that there is nothing wrong with the perk and use it frequently. I'm only level 14 though and just started playing the game so I haven't tried/gotten the other ones yet.

 

[Curtmiester]

Well if everyone can use it then no it is not cheap.

 

[Dirty Apple]

Using "Jugg" as a possible perk isn't any where as hated as "Marty." In a tight over-populated map "Jugg" can sometimes give you that extra bit of breathing room. Especially, if there are a bunch of godless, bloodsucking "Marty" users. (;p)

 

[gigastrike]

I've never had a problem with juggernaut. In fact, it mattered so little to me that I never even knew what the cross below my target meant for the longest time.

 

[McGee]

Martyrdom is the only thing that can make me rage. I consider it more nooby than cheap because you have to die for it to take effect.

 

[AnimaWish]

I agree, McGee (Whee, rhyming is fun and accidental). Most people I hear whining about some kind of thing is either Martys, Last Stand, or the grenade launcher attachment. I can understand them mostly, but Last Stand doesn't bug me as much as the other ones.

 

[Overlord2702]

Marty is the wrost prek ever made!!! Never had any problems with any of the other ones (least with last stand if you blow em up, Head Shot or knife they cant do it) and the grenade launcher is pretty bad attachment. I hope in Modern Warfare 2 you can under a server tool block perks, weapons and attachments instead of having to have a moderator on to make sure people dont use em.

 

[Christemo]

martyrdom and last stand on hardcore mode. especially when the last stand guy has a ghellie suit and your turning the other way.

also, teh scopes in WAW is fucking awful. if you have a scope for the thompson or ppsh, you can shoot people from the other side of the map more effectively than if you had a sniper.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I have t agree with the masses with juggernaught peices of ****. when I shoot you with a .50 cal I expect you to die, not look at me, yell "N00b" and pop me one

 

[Whoolpurse]

Martydom on hardcore Search and destroy or headquarters on shipment makes me rip out my hair in anger.

 

[Wafflestomper99]

If you're good, juggarnaut won't slow your kills in the slightest. I think they're all balanced. Yeah, martyrs and last stand suck when you're not expecting them, but using them means they give up other good ones out there. So there's a trade off. It's just another excuse for why the person got killed

 

[YuheJi]

Martyrdom is typically the one that people scream about.

 

[Major_Sam]

Jugg is I guess is good for people starting out and though Martydom is frustrating and you often find yourself getting killed by it, I guess you should teach yourself not to run over bodies you/someone have just killed. It's just part of the game that you have to deal with.

 

[Fightbulb]

Martyrdom, especially in Hardcore. It really is the only perk I have a problem with, because it employs a backwards logic; you get rewarded for getting killed. Getting kills in any other way takes at least some amount of skill, but Martyrdom rewards you for being bad at the game. I just hope they cut or nerf it for MW:2.

Jugg is I guess is good for people starting out and though Martydom is frustrating and you often find yourself getting killed by it, I guess you should teach yourself not to run over bodies you/someone have just killed. It's just part of the game that you have to deal with.

Though this does work in open areas, I often end up in situations where getting killed by a dropped grenade is unavoidable. If I'm standing in the corner of a room, and an enemy player gets shot and drops a grenade in the middle of the room, there's nothing I can do. He got rewarded, even though I proved to be the better player by shooting him before he shot me.

I don't want to sound too whiney, but I'm just trying to point out that it's a broken system in an otherwise (almost) perfect game.

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

i despise martydom in hardcore bcause its more likely to kill your own team. Seriously, the amount of times i have been killed by friendly martydom its disgusting. Otherwise its just a case of stop whining and play the game instead of making excuses for why you suck

 

[ThePocketWeasel]

Martyrdom is the only perk that really aggravates me. I only even play hardcore S&D so I don't see it too often, but when you do you often find some of your team members deciding to team kill him back then getting killed again and moaning about it. Which is pretty damn stupid.

 

[TOO S0BER]

I have to agree with ThePocketWeasel and EMFCRACKSHOT. Martyrdom is annoying, but it is completely fair, because you can use it too. It's not like a glitch where someone can get to areas of the map where you're not supposed to. Besides, all's fair in Love and War. And COD 4 & 5 is a war game. So the same principles apply. Martyrdom, while fair, is most annoying IMO on hardcore modes; simply because it can kill your team. That reason is why I never use it.

I FFFFFF and rage about Juggernaught like everyone else, but it's still fair. Like Gunn01 said, it's good for when you just start a prestige or just started the game. Personally, I think other perks are much more useful than a bit more health. I find that Juggernaught doesn't help that much on Hardcore, both ways.

Last stand is little hard to call. On Call of Duty 4, I think about 7 out of every 12 or so players use it. On Call of Duty 5, however, everyone and their damn grandmother uses it because of the revive. I rage every time I shoot someone and they kill me with Last Stand, only to find out that someone revived them. Ugh. Especially on S&D since every kill carries more weight. But it's still fair. All these people that rage about it simply don't like it and they call it cheap for that reason only.

This thread is about Perks, and the M203 grenade launcher/rifle grenade are attachments, which are not in the same category. The only thing I would consider cheap about these attachments would be firing them from one spawn to the other. Since it kills you before the game pretty much begins. However, in CoD 5 they made it so "Newb Tube" spawnkilling isn't possible in S&D, so it's all good

 

[goatzilla8463]

juggernaught is annoying. It is what forces me to put stopping power on every single one of my guns.

 

[-bladerunner-]

juggernaught is annoying. It is what forces me to put stopping power on every single one of my guns.

Stopping power is really useful anyway though as in a firefight it takes 1 less bullet to kill someone. Marty is probably the 1 thing I loathe about cod 4, I'll be on a twenty kill streak, knife my next victim only to find he has marty on and sonic boom on


Also Yay for 10 million unique COD 4 players on 360

 

[goatzilla8463]

juggernaught is annoying. It is what forces me to put stopping power on every single one of my guns.

Stopping power is really useful anyway though as in a firefight it takes 1 less bullet to kill someone. Marty is probably the 1 thing I loathe about cod 4, I'll be on a twenty kill streak, knife my next victim only to find he has marty on and sonic boom on


Also Yay for 10 million unique COD 4 players on 360

Yeah, Martydom is a *****. I like to think of myself as having pretty good reactions though so I am usually able to throw the grenade away before it blows my arse to kingdom come.