Computer science at 3rd level

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Ross Kinsella

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hey guys - im looking into CS degrees atm!
wondering if i could get some opinions from some people in the feild!

Basicaly i cant decide if i'd be better off doing COMPUTERSCIENCE or a dual degree (Computerscience with business) which takes out the hardware/networks side of CS and replaces it with marketing , microeconomics , finance ect.

According to the college both courses would have the same emphasis on software.

As far as im concerned im equaly interested in both fields!

If i went down this road i'd like to picture myself either leading a project team or starting a firm of my own.

Any advice is welcome , thanks!
 

DoPo

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Well, both sound nice. Ideally, you'll want comsci+business if you want to open your own business, however it's not essential. There are plenty of CS graduates that opened their own firms and so on. If you want to lead a team, you don't really need business, but some personal skills are nice. In the end, though, you can easily learn what you missed on your own.

So, my final thoughts[footnote]Although, I am biased because I'm doing a pure compsci degree[/footnote] - go for the pure option. That will give you more skills you can put on your resume that are good for the cumputing field. Also, some (maybe most or all) universities provide the option on getting some business modules as part of CS (and modules from outside the department in general). You might get some straight from the business/management department or maybe from the CS department itself - there are modules like "Professional issues in software" or "Business for software developers" especially tailored for CS students.

Do note, though, that I don't know exactly what business you want to go into. I'm assuming a more tech-y one, but you can easily have a consulting firm or a web design or something that would mean that you don't need a full CS degree.
 

Ross Kinsella

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@ Mortai Gravesend
- Yeah I see what you mean by the workload would be tough , i did some more research and students in the dual degree were complaining about having to do more time consuming essays when they would much rather be coding

@ DoPo
- how is the pure degree divided?
- by this I mean what % of your time do you spend looking at hardware / software?
 

KlassixKAOS

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I am currently in my First-Year of a Computer Science and Mathematics degree and it is for the most part very enjoyable.

Most of the emphasis in first-year is on programming and learning basic computer skills (aka Databases and basic Hardware & Software)

Advise that if you do go into Computer Science, find out the module information and revise the hell out of whatever programming language you will be learning (most likely Java) at its basic level.

Really helped me out. If you have any questions I would be more than happy to answer. :)
 

DoPo

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Ross Kinsella said:
@ DoPo
- how is the pure degree divided?
- by this I mean what % of your time do you spend looking at hardware / software?
Well it depends. I myself had slightly less than 1/6 of my course in total on hardware/networking. However, I had a choice, and I could have done more, or a lot less than that. Also, what do you mean by "software" - for non-hardware modules, I've done two on Maths (basic and advanced maths for compsci), also two on AI (again, basic and advanced), several on software techniques (data structures, design patterns, agile methodologies) and some on general software engineering skills (development lifecycles, formal methods), so on, aside from the purely programming ones. It's not all software. But you can choose.

You usually get several core modules each year, which you have to take, but you can pick the rest. A pure Computer Science degree has the most freedom because you don't specialise in anything (as opposed to artificial intelligence, robotics, internet computing and so on). In fact, the difference between the degrees is mainly the modules you're taking, so if you're doing a degree in internet computing, you'll get the core modules for compsci plus some internet related modules and that's it. This means that a person who does a pure CS degree can pick the same modules as one who does IC. The advantage of CS is the choices you can make - you can get a module on internet stuff as well as one or two on computer graphics and one on robotics, for example. Whatever you're interested in. And depending on the Uni, you may be allowed to take several modules outside the department each year (something logical, so maybe business but not medieval history), which gives you an even greater flexibility.

Generally, when you're doing a combined degree, you will either do a major/minor split or a 50/50 one. The latter is fairly self explanatory - you'll get the same amount of modules from each degree, if you do a major/minor, though, you get something like a 2:1 ratio.

If you're really undecided, I'd suggest taking the CS/business degree. It's fairly easy to change during the first year[footnote]A guy I know changed like a dozen times then. He went from Business Information Technologies (which doesn't have a lot to do with business itself but more like "how businesses use computers") through most other CS disciplines, back to BIT, then over the CS field again, and finally back to BIT.[/footnote]. After the first year (or rather during), you can decide what you like more or less and change (or not) afterwards. You might get a little problem but it shouldn't be too hard to go pure business or CS in the second year. Don't do what a different guy I know did - he was doing major CS/minor business and about halfway of the second year he regretted his decision. At that point he realised that he utterly hated programming and actually loved business...but didn't want to lose a whole year (the current one, and then another one at least) to change over, so he had to force himself to finish what he started.
 

Ross Kinsella

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I did some more research and I found that the CS/Bus degree will actualy give a great deal of flexability! The degree lets me pick and mix from nearly everything that a pure Bus or CS degree would have access to.

I can , like you said DePo , decide to focus on whatever I like.

So , thanks for the input i realy appreciate it!
 

DoPo

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Well, I'm glad you worked it out. Have fun and, uhm, happy studies. Or something. Man, there really aren't any wishes to be made for studying. Well, have fun in Uni anyway - get a degree, get lots of money and come back to pay for the advice. Don't worry, I can wait :p