Crusader Kings II - Monks and Mystics
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Hum this looks cool but i'm also somewhat confused. Seems to me there's going to be magic and cults and weird voodoo going around, isn't ck2 supposed to be somewhat realistic? Random aztec invasions not withstanding.
I know there are some curious oddities already such as the possibility of giving birth to the spawn of satan (happened in a recent game of mine actually, i was mortified especially as the kid was my ONLY heir, so fuck it, all hail satan!), but i somewhat rationalized that as my character being insane and believing he was posessed by the devil/is the son of the devil rather then it being the truth.
Ah too much nit picking, i should just get back to enjoying the game. *throws feast, everyone's invited!*
Hum this looks cool but i'm also somewhat confused. Seems to me there's going to be magic and cults and weird voodoo going around, isn't ck2 supposed to be somewhat realistic? Random aztec invasions not withstanding.
I know there are some curious oddities already such as the possibility of giving birth to the spawn of satan (happened in a recent game of mine actually, i was mortified especially as the kid was my ONLY heir, so fuck it, all hail satan!), but i somewhat rationalized that as my character being insane and believing he was posessed by the devil/is the son of the devil rather then it being the truth.
Ah too much nit picking, i should just get back to enjoying the game. *throws feast, everyone's invited!*
Paradox continues to demonstrate their ownership of my soul, or at least my wallet.
There have always been more whimsical and silly events, as well as events which are (or appear to be) supernatural. Recently though, they added the ability to define rules for any given play-through, so you can turn the supernatural events on or off. Because of this, I don't think they've felt quite so inhibited with adding crazy stuff to the past few expansions, because some people enjoy that while people who want a more realistic experience can still choose to have one.Frankster said:
What can I say? Emilia is a master of conveying emotion in an unsubtle way!Frankster said:Your avatar is rather fitting for the squee
Well, the DLC seems to be about religious orders and sects, there's nothing intrinsically magical about a sect, but as mentioned by another poster above, we'll probably get supernatural events that you can disable in the game rules, but if I had to guess, I'd say most of the content will be about intrigue and secret societies.Frankster said:
That's one such supernatural event, it came with Sons of Abraham. I hope it'll be expended it with that DLC, especially considering Satanism seems more and more likely to be added. The REAL danger with having your kid be the spawn of Satan is if you have Agnatic-only succession, and that your possessed child is female. All of your heirs will rapidly die one by one, leaving you with a game over unless you go through imprisoning your demonic daughter.Frankster said:
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As for the portrait pack they'll release alongside the DLC, I'm hoping for Western and South Slavs, but considering the screenshots they released for the DLC, it seems a bit unlikely. Currently expecting Berbers.
Looks alright, should be fun once they've balanced it. And, this means that the Reaper's Due should have better discounts in upcoming sales.
At the moment, I can't really think of anything of anything in the DLC that would be completely unbalance, but then again, Paradox has a terrible habit of pretty releasing their DLCs unbalanced.Catnip1024 said:
Reaper's Due had insane cancer, maiming, and insanity rates, but they fixed it recently. (And then the update broke the ability to upgrade tribal holdings)
Conclave still has the Elective-extravaganza that they should really get on fixing.
Horse Lords had unbeatable nomads ripping through the whole of the map with ease and never imploding. (Fixed, though)
Way of Life had the intrigue and seduction fuckery that led to everyone having herpes and you being a perpetual cuckold.
Rajas severely affected the performance of the game, made it unplayable for many.
Still, we must keep hope.
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I see, fair enough, it's not that i got anything against these mystical events, it's that i honestly never encountered them before (which i suppose says a good thing about the depth of the game?), or rather i always rationalized these mystical events as make belief/superstition.Sonmi said:
Which is what made the spawn of the devil events so bloody freaky D: I dismissed all warnings and the heedings of my court chaplain and ignored all this superstitious nonsense.. But by the time the kid was puking out flies and had the stench of death and decay follow him everywhere+ my good king gradually becoming absolutely crazy, i was kinda freaking out xD At that point it's kinda hard to say "yeah this kid just thinks he is the devil because my court chaplain and my court treats him that way so he believes them, it's all psychology!!! There is nothing evil about this kid!"
It was like some sort of modern horror movie where your perfectly normal videogame is possessed by demonic entities and gets all screwed up and evil. And of course the protagonist, me, is skeptical and keeps trying to explain things rationally only to finally go crazy mid way through as he finally accepts there are supernatural forces at work.
On euh..the "bright" side, when this kid finally took power and became the most evil and screwed up ruler i've ever played in ck2, i got a great chance to experience pretty much every single torture and death scream introduced by reaper's due... xD
Anyways now i know there is a lot more mystical/magic content in the game, with a dlc focused on it incoming, guess i should try playing bookish characters with a passion for the occult more often.
NOOOOOO!
I'm poor at the moment and I've been waiting for Final Fantasy XV since before the PS3 came out. And Dishonored was one of my favorite games so I'll have to get Dishonored 2. And the Dark Souls 3 DLC. And the Fallout 4 DLC. And the Overlord DVD comes out in January. Luckily Persona 5 has been moved back, so I got time for that one[footnote]Weeps inside for lack of Persona 5[/footnote]. Oh and Gravity Rush... Its a never ending stream of stuff I want to buy at the moment.
Why do you add to this Paradox!
I'm poor at the moment and I've been waiting for Final Fantasy XV since before the PS3 came out. And Dishonored was one of my favorite games so I'll have to get Dishonored 2. And the Dark Souls 3 DLC. And the Fallout 4 DLC. And the Overlord DVD comes out in January. Luckily Persona 5 has been moved back, so I got time for that one[footnote]Weeps inside for lack of Persona 5[/footnote]. Oh and Gravity Rush... Its a never ending stream of stuff I want to buy at the moment.
Why do you add to this Paradox!
[HEADING=1]WHY![/HEADING]
They tend to be extremely rare.Frankster said:
For example, reapers due added the ability to become immortal, but I've literally never seen it because the event chain in question is rare to begin with, and then has a high chance of failure.
The rationalization (which I suspect will be the case here too) is that while we know it's impossible to become immortal, just as we know bargaining occult power from Satan doesn't work (or does it) and that the antichrist isn't going to show up and ravage the earth with his event spawned army of witches, people at the time believed all kinds of weird things.
To be fair, I know someone whose professional area of expertise is historical views of evil, I would say that the CK2 team are actually wrong here. The medieval view of witchcraft and Satanism is not simply a more superstitious version of the modern view of these things, but you'd need to be something of an expert to know that and as it stands it's all good fun.
Wait, hold on... WHAT? Bloody hell, I was playing just the other night and that came up. Long chain where my king was pondering his mortality and sent out his most loyal knights in search of a answers, eventually leading to a supposedly undying witch coming to the court and offering my king her services and a shot at immortality.evilthecat said:
I turned her down because I figured she'd just lead my king into some sort of heresy, plus the piety you got from refusing her was damned nice at a time when I desperately needed it. But if I'd known it might have actually led somewhere...
See, this is why I love CK2, so many possibility. Hopefully I'll get that chance again sometime to see just how well things go. This is also why I don't look up the details of exactly which events are added and what they do, I like being surprised like this.
And here i was sitting going to wait till they release all expansions for the game to get it all at once, but no, they have to make more and delay me from playing the game further!
But seriuosly, expansions for 3 year old games, Paradox really is dedicated.
But seriuosly, expansions for 3 year old games, Paradox really is dedicated.
It's a business model that pays itself off in the long run.Strazdas said:
They release a game running on their own dedicated engine, sell it for 40$ or so, listen to fan feedback, and react accordingly with patches or DLC. For the players, on the up side, it makes a very solid game even better and more complete with an experience that feels different every 4 months or so, on the downside, it ends up rather expensive if you want to play the "complete" game, which also makes it rather intimidating for new players to jump on boat while DLC is still being routinely released.
I'm glad its the method Paradox is employing, but I'd have to say that if more companies started doing the same, I might not feel the same way. (Hurts the wallet, and all)
Quick update, fellow feudal fans:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...bout-artifacts-real-talk-about-relics.988111/
A treasury system will be added in the patch released alongside Monks and Mystics, you'll finally be able to see the "items" your character owns, and be able to pass them on upon your death. That's a feature I wanted for a long, long time, and I'm honestly glad everyone will get it for free.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...bout-artifacts-real-talk-about-relics.988111/
A treasury system will be added in the patch released alongside Monks and Mystics, you'll finally be able to see the "items" your character owns, and be able to pass them on upon your death. That's a feature I wanted for a long, long time, and I'm honestly glad everyone will get it for free.
Well shit, seems we're not getting it for this holiday period; Paradox just announced they'll do another Dev Diary concerning Monks and Mystics on the 9th of January.
Also, for anyone interested, seems like the portrait pack we'll be getting with this DLC + Patch only covers Normans. A bit disappointing if you ask me, as other groups (such as the Berbers, the Western and Southern Slavs, the Hungarians/Magyars, or the Bengali) could have used new portraits more than the freaking Normans.
In any case, I'm still hyped.
EDIT: Seems like the portraits cover all Germans and English characters as well. That's better, but now the portrait distribution is all over the place. Vanilla European portraits are used in France, Poland, Bohemia, throughout Yugoslavia, Hungary, and Bulgaria. It's rather inconsistent.
Also, for anyone interested, seems like the portrait pack we'll be getting with this DLC + Patch only covers Normans. A bit disappointing if you ask me, as other groups (such as the Berbers, the Western and Southern Slavs, the Hungarians/Magyars, or the Bengali) could have used new portraits more than the freaking Normans.
In any case, I'm still hyped.
EDIT: Seems like the portraits cover all Germans and English characters as well. That's better, but now the portrait distribution is all over the place. Vanilla European portraits are used in France, Poland, Bohemia, throughout Yugoslavia, Hungary, and Bulgaria. It's rather inconsistent.
*goes off to google*Strazdas said:
what the fuck, crusader kings II is younger than skyrim?
fuck me, I really thought it was older than that.... (4 years old btw, but still)
I realize people want to get paid and all that, but I'm not paying the 15 bucks per new expansion or whatever it is, I got the crusader kings collection or whatever like a year and a half ago expecting that to be the full game, but now there is like another 45 bucks in DLC I am considering.