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Dark Souls. Oh dear dear Dark Souls. You have touched my heart. You have touched the hearts of two million gamers. But why? How? Well, for many reasons.

First of all the plot of Dark Souls is truly elegant. You are told the backstory of an ancient war between Lords and Dragons long ago. This war led to hours upon hours of lore that exists in the Dark Souls universe. It is so well paced and hidden that you have to play ten hours to learn anything about what is going on and after that you have to spend the rest of the game hunting down obscure facts that odds are you won't even find, but what's the alternative? Having everything spelled out for you? Pft. Who wants key elements of the story GIVEN to them.

Next is the level design, designed with the utmost care and perfection. Blight town is meant to represent stagnation of Human development and progress, which is why the frame rate gets butt fucked down to single digits in the swamp. It symbolizes overcoming natural decay. Another example of genius is the Tomb of the Giants, in which you travel through the dark, sacrificing a hand unless you have an item that takes 30 Humanity to get, falling off of cliffs time and time again because I giant skeleton archer you couldn't see shot you. It symbolizes pressing on into the unknown and the preparation that must be taken. But I think the crowning achievement is the bridge in Anor Londo where you must run up it dodging two giant archers who will send you to your death at least thirty times before you get it right. This is clearly the embodiment of life and how quickly death can come or be averted based on flash decisions.

But the design, you have to talk about the design. Like the characters, you can easily remember what they look like. Oh, they don't have memorable faces, 80% of them wear helmets or other face concealing head ware, and the ones who do noticeably never open their mouths when they talk, but this deliberately poorly design of the lack of mouth movement and the under designed faces clearly are do show the poverty of the world, and the developers clearly mirrored that in their budget to reflect it to the full extend. And the realism, oh dear lord the realism. When will we get another game that has four corpses doing awkward dances and getting caught up in your legs every time you walk over them?

There will never be another game like Dark Souls...but perhaps it is ahead of its time.

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Yes, this is very much a joke thread.

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I honestly can't tell if you're being serious with the "X symbolizes Y" stuff.

If it were anybody else, I'd assume you were making fun of people reading too much into their favourite games.

Personally I got jack of the unwieldy camera, lacklustre combat and the repetition caused by the respawning enemies. Got through the painted world, waved a cheerful goodbye to that one friendly lass with the tail then just kinda forgot to keep playing.

It did have some nice armour designs though, I'll give it that. Managed to strike a good balance between believable and fantastical. Not so much with the huge weapons, but hey, baby steps.
 

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Zhukov said:
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I honestly can't tell if you're being serious with the "X symbolizes Y" stuff.

If it were anybody else, I'd assume you were making fun of people reading too much into their favourite games.

Personally I got jack of the unwieldy camera, lacklustre combat and the repetition caused by the respawning enemies. Got through the painted world, waved a cheerful goodbye to that one friendly lass with the tail then just kinda forgot to keep playing.

It did have some nice armour designs though, I'll give it that. Managed to strike a good balance between believable and fantastical. Not so much with the huge weapons, but hey, baby steps.
I saw the latest Jimquisition episode and I thought I'd take the piss out of one of my favorite games because, hey, why not. I can point out all of these frustrating aspects and still like it. I can make fun of something I like.
 

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Meh, I thought it was like Monster Hunter but without the beautiful landscapes or amazing monster design or witty satire in the weapons/armour choices and the way it included 'japanesey' elements without them being incredibly annoying. Basically the same gameplay.
And coming out in the same year as Modern Warfare 3 dictates that it wasn't even the best fantasy game that year.
 

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I'm not sure if I can say it is the best game of that year. I'm sure there are things that are objectively better (whatever that means). I will say however, that it is my favorite game of all time, despite it's flaws.
 

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So what we've learned today is that when you tell people to read the OP nobody fucking does.
Woo.

I'd do one of these myself but I'm lazy and clearly people don't bother looking.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
So what we've learned today is that when you tell people to read the OP nobody fucking does.
Woo.

I'd do one of these myself but I'm lazy and clearly people don't bother looking.
What is there to say? He didn't exactly start a discussion, he just pooped on a game he liked for fun.
 

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You don't have to join the Chaos Servants to get the light-bulb helmet. Just go through Lost Izalith before you go through Tomb of Giants.

I have nothing else to add really.
 

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Nevermind the fact that your own character's ankles look as if they're made of rubber when running down slope, sure wish I had super ankles like that. If mine bent that way irl I'd be a fucking cripple. :)

OT: I have sort of come around to DS. While I still suck at it, I've found a niche I can enjoy it in by way of heavy armor and getting the drakesword asap to take out the Dark Knights and get their weapons and shield. Its fun, and frustrating... kind of like playing Risk and watching my vast army wiped out by bad dice rolling.
 

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Church185 said:
I'm not sure if I can say it is the best game of that year. I'm sure there are things that are objectively better (whatever that means)
Were there though? Cause as much as I love Dark Souls despite how absurdly stupid broken of a masterpiece it is, I can hardly remember playing anything else in 2011, to 2012........ to 2013....
I've only recently now reached the final stretch of life the game has left in it. Only one more month left, cmon man pull yourself together...
 

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JagermanXcell said:
Church185 said:
I'm not sure if I can say it is the best game of that year. I'm sure there are things that are objectively better (whatever that means)
Were there though? Cause as much as I love Dark Souls despite how absurdly stupid broken of a masterpiece it is, I can hardly remember playing anything else in 2011, to 2012........ to 2013....
I've only recently now reached the final stretch of life the game has left in it. Only one more month left, cmon man pull yourself together...
Well, two of my actual favorite modern games, Deus Ex: Human Revolution and Skyrim, were both 2011s.

I gave dark souls a try, but it's awkward controls, bland graphics, repetitive gameplay, and terrible PC porting job just prevented me from being compelled enough to work my way through it.
 

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JagermanXcell said:
Were there though? Cause as much as I love Dark Souls despite how absurdly stupid broken of a masterpiece it is, I can hardly remember playing anything else in 2011, to 2012........ to 2013....
I've only recently now reached the final stretch of life the game has left in it. Only one more month left, cmon man pull yourself together...
The wait is killing me too. You should definitely try out a new build to pass the time. I surprisingly had never made a pure DEX character before 2 weeks ago, so I made a ninja chick. She dual wields katanas and uses a bow to kill people I can't parry. Before that I was running a crossbow only build (dressed up as Marvelous Chester).
 

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I honestly loved Dark Souls, but not because of the Lore, the Commentary, or the Difficulty, but purely because I loved the Atmosphere and the combat wasn't so boring I couldn't drag myself through it to see the beautiful landscapes (after modding the game to actually have beautiful landscapes that is). @ the OP, I can understand not finding the game interesting, but you may want to add some discussion value to the topic. I'd shoot for something along the lines of: "What was your favorite weapon/armor combination, and why?"

Personally my favorite was the Gold-Hemmed Black Set with the Helm of Thorns for my helm, and a Priscilla's Dagger for my weapon. I would wear the Dark Wood Grain Ring with either Covetous Silver Ring or the Fog Ring on my offhand. I would use the Dragon-Crest Shield with that loadout. (This was my Light Loadout for PvP and PvE where I needed to move fast). I would occasionally switch out to my Washing Pole and cast Crystal Weapon or Hidden Weapon for when I needed more damage or the enemy was immune to bleeds (Priscilla's Dagger was boss for bleeds)

My Heavy Armor Set (AKA my 2nd Favorite Set) was The Black Iron set with Mask of the Father. I would use a Black Knight Great-Axe and The Dragon-Crest Shield. I would wear Havel's Ring and a Ring of Favor and Protection to offset the weight of my equipment set. This was my Cleric set and I would often switch my Great-Axe out for my Washing Pole to cast Darkmoon Blade on.


Just found one of my old build links: This is my Darkmoon Blade Thorns projector. The link includes the description (and is a powerful tool for those who are just getting started in DS).
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=397154021740089331
 

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Can't even disagree with any of the things you've said. Nobody who wasn't being a jackass ever called this game flawless. Any yet, Dark Souls, I still love you so! Warts and all.

JagermanXcell said:
I've only recently now reached the final stretch of life the game has left in it. Only one more month left, cmon man pull yourself together...
So close...and yet so far away! I swear, if the PC is far behind the console release, I'm gonna break down. I haven't wanted a game this bad since I was a little kid.
 

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Did you forget that was the year Duke Nukem Forever was released? Not only is that game historic, it has Duke Fucking Nukem. That just ruins the competition and makes DNF the only choice for the best game of 2011.
 

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Hm...
I actually rather enjoy Dark Souls at times, but in my many hours spent playing it I've come to a sort of conclusion: It should have a warning not unlike the one seen at the start of every South Park episode.

Something like "All bosses are based on the most frustrating things the dev team could think of, extreme challenge is implimented... Poorly. The following game contains you using coarse language and due to it's many, many, many cheap deaths should not be played by anyone."

Might be nice if that overlong opening that, for me, raised more questions than it answered about the game world were half as enjoyable as the South Park opening theme, too, and that's not even asking much.

EDIT: Aware OP is joking, but this was the first, and only, thing that came to mind.
 

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barbzilla said:
I honestly loved Dark Souls, but not because of the Lore, the Commentary, or the Difficulty, but purely because I loved the Atmosphere and the combat wasn't so boring I couldn't drag myself through it to see the beautiful landscapes (after modding the game to actually have beautiful landscapes that is). @ the OP, I can understand not finding the game interesting, but you may want to add some discussion value to the topic. I'd shoot for something along the lines of: "What was your favorite weapon/armor combination, and why?"

Personally my favorite was the Gold-Hemmed Black Set with the Helm of Thorns for my helm, and a Priscilla's Dagger for my weapon. I would wear the Dark Wood Grain Ring with either Covetous Silver Ring or the Fog Ring on my offhand. I would use the Dragon-Crest Shield with that loadout. (This was my Light Loadout for PvP and PvE where I needed to move fast). I would occasionally switch out to my Washing Pole and cast Crystal Weapon or Hidden Weapon for when I needed more damage or the enemy was immune to bleeds (Priscilla's Dagger was boss for bleeds)

My Heavy Armor Set (AKA my 2nd Favorite Set) was The Black Iron set with Mask of the Father. I would use a Black Knight Great-Axe and The Dragon-Crest Shield. I would wear Havel's Ring and a Ring of Favor and Protection to offset the weight of my equipment set. This was my Cleric set and I would often switch my Great-Axe out for my Washing Pole to cast Darkmoon Blade on.


Just found one of my old build links: This is my Darkmoon Blade Thorns projector. The link includes the description (and is a powerful tool for those who are just getting started in DS).
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=397154021740089331
The Gold-Hemmed Black Set is my favorite as well. When wielding the Great Scythe, I'm the Grim Reaper. With that set and the Dark Wood-Grain Ring, you can farm Blighttown without being poisoned. The only problem with that set, is that you can't upgrade it, so I usually end up wearing a fully upgraded Crimson set.

I started a new build last night. I'm using a fully upgraded pyromancy hand with the Dragoncrest ring and the Crown of Dusk. It's like putting Dark Souls on "easy" mode.
 

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kiri2tsubasa said:
Ehh, I like the game, and I think I am in a small minority that feels that this is the direction that Zelda should have gone.
This is the direction 3D Castlevanias should have gone, in my opinion.