Defining 'Pro' guns in FPS games

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DBlackny

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Question for all you Escapists out there. How are guns in games like Modern Warfare 2 defined as 'pro' and such? In my small circle of friends, when we first started playing the Black Ops multiplayer, the commando was our pet peeve, we hated the thing, because we thought it was overpowered and 'nooby'. After a few months, I decided I wanted to try out a new gun, so I asked my friends what they would recommend. I was surprised to here the guy who had complained about the commando the most when we first started out playing, to be the one now recommending it to me.

What I don't understand, is how these guns are defined to be 'pro' or 'non-pro'. I have had people tell me that the F2000 (MW2) is 'pro' because of its low accuracy, making it harder to use effectively. I have also heard people call the grenade launcher attachment the 'Noob Tube', while others call it the 'Pro Pipe'. I have also had people tell me that 'knifing' (Running around the map using nothing but a tactical knife and a throwing knife. On MW2) is 'nooby' as it takes no skill to do well with. As someone who 'knifes' one a somewhat regular basis, I don't get how it has no skill involved, and I also don't understand how the people saying its 'nooby' justify their claims; The tactical decisions you have to make whilst 'knifing', like which route to take, whether to take on a certain person on or not given their distance from you, the objects between you and them etc, all have to be done in a split second, and I have seen few people get high kill/death rations whilst 'knifing'. The people who have complained to me about 'knifing', are mostly people have never tried it themselves, and have sworn that they never will. How can one justify that something is good/bad if they haven't tried it themselves?

Is there somewhere these weapons are defined as 'pro' or 'non-pro', like a website or video series, and if so, then do different sources agree on which weapons are 'pro' and which are not? Are there some conventions, like a 'pro' weapon cannot be accurate to a certain degree? Or in reality is it just people naming weapons they die a lot from as 'overpowered', in an attempt to compensate for them doing badly in matches, and calling the weapons they use as 'pro' to justify when they do well as personal skill, rather than because they are using an overpowered gun. I get the feeling that no matter what weapon you use, someone on the other end is always going to hate you for it. I can guarantee someone out there doesn't appreciate my silenced SCAR-H, with Scavenger Pro, Cold-Blooded Pro and Ninja Pro on Modern Warfare 2.

So going back to my main question, is there some way people define guns as good or bad? Or are people just trying to justify their own personal scores compared to everyone else?
 

Jason Danger Keyes

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Honestly, people just define weapons or tactics they either suck against or find arbitrarily distasteful as 'noobish', and whatever tactics their divine and perfect reasoning like to use as 'pro'.
 

Kahunaburger

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CoD players whine about everything. The only really "noobish" weapon is the grenade launcher, but honestly even that would be a bigger problem in a game where it wasn't so easy to kill people anyway.
 

DaHero

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Kahunaburger said:
CoD players whine about everything. The only really "noobish" weapon is the grenade launcher, but honestly even that would be a bigger problem in a game where it wasn't so easy to kill people anyway.
It's only considered a noob weapon because it's the perfect anti-sniper.

Using a 203 may not be considered normal, but on snipers it is.

Snipers: Not even once.
 

MetallicaRulez0

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The only things that aren't pro are explosives and knives, because they truly don't take skill. That includes running around like an idiot with Tac Knife/Commando. Everything else is fair game.
 

Iconsting

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The Commando's a good gun, therefore it kills you lots.

But I digress, people on Call of Duty complain about how they get killed no matter what. This is nothing new.
DaHero said:
It's only considered a noob weapon because it's the perfect anti-sniper.

Using a 203 may not be considered normal, but on snipers it is.

Snipers: Not even once.
As a horribly guilty noob tuber, I can say that it's 100% noob-worthy. If I can be faced with five infantry with fully automatic assault rifles firing at me and take them all out in a single shot, that takes no skill whatsoever.
 

Wintermoot

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if it,s in the game it,s allowed.
that,s my rule. If it was overpowered they would have removed it in Alpha/Beta.
PS
if you really want to go pro use pistol,s NON-AKIMBO!
also in HL2 I,m pretty good with just the pistol.
 

LavaLampBamboo

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As a general rule;

The weapons YOU are using whilst killing someone = Pro

The weapons SOMEONE ELSE is using whilst killing you repeatedly = Noob

There's no pro or noob weapons in CoD. There's the weapons you are good with and there's ones you aren't. Just use a combination you like. Inevitably someone will get angry because you killed them, and they'll call you a noob, your weapons noobish, your perks noobish, probably call you an idiot, insult your gamertag, whatever.

People tend to find excuses for getting killed. They rarely admit they just were worse than the other guy.
 

Kahunaburger

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
The only things that aren't pro are explosives and knives, because they truly don't take skill. That includes running around like an idiot with Tac Knife/Commando. Everything else is fair game.
Ah, commando.


(I actually don't think it's that bad since at that range you can instantly kill people with half the secondaries anyway.)