Deus Ex: HR Pre-Order Bonuses Break Game...

[Jaffinnegan]

So, this has been the game I have been looking forward to ever since I the first trailers. I Pre-Orded the Aurgmented Edition as soon as I could, and I finally got it yesterday.

I was having fun playing through the opening, and talking to people around in Sarif Ind, then got in the Chopper to the first mission, really Excited about doing my first actual Level!
Then, Halfway through a Cutscene, a Box pops up says "Thank you for Pre-Ordering, Here is the Bonuses!", and it FORCED the most Powerful Sniper-rifle into my Inventory, a Grenade Launcher, and Remote-Mines, and says leter I will unlock an Automatic Unlocking Device. On top of this, I get an Extra 10'000 Credits (Enough to buy 8 Aurg Upgrades).

For a game like Deus Ex, this sort of MASSIVE Advantage literally Breaks the game, because it removes a HUGE ***** of the Challenge, and makes the early part of the game boring. I cannot play it until I find a way of removing the Pre-order bonuses, even if it means rebuying the normal Edition. The thing that really stings me is that its going to be mostly Fans of Deus Ex 1 that Pre-order, and they are the ones that are going to be heavily disapointed in how the Pre-order ruined it for them.

I only Pre-orderd, because I just asumed that I would not just get given the weapons, but I could buy them for a large price, or find them in hard to get or strange places you wouldnt think to look, like the way Deus Ex should be played.

What do you think about this?

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Don't...use them?

IF your willpower sucks, it's not the game's fault.

Drop the items on the ground where you stand, and keep a MINIMUM balance of 10k in your bank.

I, for one, will go back to using my Automatic Unlocking Devices to ensure my future characters never have to invest in Hacking Augs again.

 

[Jaffinnegan]

Don't...use them?

IF your willpower sucks, it's not the game's fault.

Drop the items on the ground where you stand, and keep a MINIMUM balance of 10k in your bank.

I, for one, will go back to using my Automatic Unlocking Devices to ensure my future characters never have to invest in Hacking Augs again.

How does just Dropping them solve the Problem? The Pre-Order bonus Forces them onto you, instead of letting you get them yourself, either through paying or finding. Another point I made was about HOW they put the stuff in the game, and how people who may not have played the Original will just take these new weapons, and think the game is just too easy.

 

[oplinger]

Don't...use them?

IF your willpower sucks, it's not the game's fault.

Drop the items on the ground where you stand, and keep a MINIMUM balance of 10k in your bank.

I, for one, will go back to using my Automatic Unlocking Devices to ensure my future characters never have to invest in Hacking Augs again.

How does just Dropping them solve the Problem? The Pre-Order bonus Forces them onto you, instead of letting you get them yourself, either through paying or finding. Another point I made was about HOW they put the stuff in the game, and how people who may not have played the Original will just take these new weapons, and think the game is just too easy.

Dropping them solves the problem of you having them. Fallout NV forced it's bonuses on you too. No one cared about that. They weren't game breaking...but I left mine somewhere in the desert.

If someone sees a message that says OH THANK YOU FOR PRE-ORDERING and then they get stuff, they'd have to be a monumental idiot to think that's just par for the course in the game. So, basically...stupid people are gonna be stupid. And you don't have to use, or even keep the stuff the game gives you.

It's not really an issue.

 

[Inkidu]

So, this has been the game I have been looking forward to ever since I the first trailers. I Pre-Orded the Aurgmented Edition as soon as I could, and I finally got it yesterday.

I was having fun playing through the opening, and talking to people around in Sarif Ind, then got in the Chopper to the first mission, really Excited about doing my first actual Level!
Then, Halfway through a Cutscene, a Box pops up says "Thank you for Pre-Ordering, Here is the Bonuses!", and it FORCED the most Powerful Sniper-rifle into my Inventory, a Grenade Launcher, and Remote-Mines, and says leter I will unlock an Automatic Unlocking Device. On top of this, I get an Extra 10'000 Credits (Enough to buy 8 Aurg Upgrades).

For a game like Deus Ex, this sort of MASSIVE Advantage literally Breaks the game, because it removes a HUGE ***** of the Challenge, and makes the early part of the game boring. I cannot play it until I find a way of removing the Pre-order bonuses, even if it means rebuying the normal Edition. The thing that really stings me is that its going to be mostly Fans of Deus Ex 1 that Pre-order, and they are the ones that are going to be heavily disapointed in how the Pre-order ruined it for them.

I only Pre-orderd, because I just asumed that I would not just get given the weapons, but I could buy them for a large price, or find them in hard to get or strange places you wouldnt think to look, like the way Deus Ex should be played.

What do you think about this?

Yeah, just go into your inventory, hit X on one of your game-breaky weapons and select drop. Personally I would love to do a run-through with that kind of crap. Just to break the game.

Also, on the credits. Uh, no ten thousand is enough to buy you two Praxis kits, (which I can do by the first hub world anyway) and you can only ever buy two praxis kits from a hub world per visit. The guys who made Human Revolution had a lot of stuff in mind. I think they just wanted to give you the chance to have some wacky fun.

 

[Loop Stricken]

... shiiiit, man. I didn't get any of those with my pre-order. Just a load of TF2 items.

 

[Fidelias]

Hey, if you're not using the automatic hacking device, can I haz it? PLZ????? It takes way too many aug points to be good in hacking, and it's pretty much necessary.

As far as the rest of the stuff goes, just drop it and move on. Money's never an issue anyways if you do the side quests, and the only thing you're going to use money for is to buy praxis kits. So no real advantage there.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

I didn't think they broke the game at all. The sniper rifle is only really powerful for the first few missions, later on enemies are so heavily armoured it doesn't even kill them with a headshot. The shotgun like any shotgun is only effective at close range so it's not really overpowered. The Auto-Hacking devices really come in handy in some of the harder hacks so complain all you want, later on you'll be happy you have them. Last of all, 10,000 credits isn't a lot of money, only enough to buy 2 PRAXIS Kit's, hardly a game breaker.

 

[Echo136]

I really dont understand the problem. Drop them, sell them, stash them away, or just dont equip them. How is it that hard?

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

I sold the sniper and shotgun first chance I got, but the 10,000 credits is a bit over the top for the start of the game. At least make me work for it a bit. Though it is only a niggling annoyance and hardly bothered me. Are the autohacking machines only a pre order bonus? I though they where already in the game as I saw them for sale in the beta -ahem- I mean so I was told. Though there not really game breaking as they are similar in their function as the multi tools in the original Deus Ex.

 

[Ralphfromdk]

I'm actually okay with the sniper/ shotgun / money bonus.

The sniper and shotgun don't really get any ammo drops to begin with, but they make sense to have, instead of the normal way, where they go "okay, 40+ armed terrorists. You can have one AND ONLY ONE, weapon and just about no spare ammo, Good luck out there"

As for the money, it kinda makes sense that a guy who is the head of security at a company this big, would have some kind of savings / bank account.



So... yeah. I don't really see the problem.


*capthca* How about using words instead of black splothces?

 

[Sylveria]

Don't...use them?

IF your willpower sucks, it's not the game's fault.

Drop the items on the ground where you stand, and keep a MINIMUM balance of 10k in your bank.

I, for one, will go back to using my Automatic Unlocking Devices to ensure my future characters never have to invest in Hacking Augs again.

How does just Dropping them solve the Problem? The Pre-Order bonus Forces them onto you, instead of letting you get them yourself, either through paying or finding. Another point I made was about HOW they put the stuff in the game, and how people who may not have played the Original will just take these new weapons, and think the game is just too easy.

*Scratches head* Are you the type of person that if something comes on TV you find offensive, you sit and watch it, instead of changing the channel, then complain to the FCC?

Dropping solves the problem in that you no longer have the items, thus no longer having the ability use them, and eliminating all temptation to do so.

Though while I may mock the reasoning a little bit, I do get the point about how the ill-informed may think this makes the game too easy. There's really no solution to that since it is at the discretion of the player. If they think, or know, these items are game breaking, they can discard them. If they don't know or choose to keep using them anyway, there's really nothing that can be done.

 

[Gennadios]

You really expected some effort put into balacing? I have yet to see a single good implementation of pre-order bonuses out of any (non-multiplayer) game I've bought. They're literally a halfassed patch job that materializes inside your inventory/garage/home base 98% of the time.

Just don't buy special editions or pre order games for best results.

 

[Doopliss64]

I HATE that! I was so pissed off when I downloaded the Dead Space 2 DLC weapon packs, just to find that you could get them for FREE in the in-game store, totally unblancing the game. Is it too much to ask that DLC and pre-order bonuses be integrated logically into the game? They would never unbalance a multiplayer game like this, and they don't realize that great single-player games also have a carefully moderated balance to maintain a certain difficulty curve. I'm so glad I didn't preorder.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Pre-order bonuses have a bad habit of unbalancing games these days. They really need to make them purely aesthetic or just add variety, not give you super powerful shit that in the vanilla game you have to earn.

I never use them because it feels like I'm cheating.

 

[sniddy_v1legacy]

Pre-order bonuses have a bad habit of unbalancing games these days. They really need to make them purely aesthetic or just add variety, not give you super powerful shit that in the vanilla game you have to earn.

I never use them because it feels like I'm cheating.

BUT then they won't sell them to power gamers

Real gamers just go meh, and generally drop it unless going on a speed run fun

....I agree with the sentiment - either a minor boost, a different skin for multi player, some bonus element that doesn't break the game - something cool but nothing that makes an easy auto winz button - and the auto unlocking too is just this surely as it means you can bypass so many options.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

10000Cr? Meh, that's only about an hour of in-game petty larceny.

 

[Telperion]

Whaaat? Hey, I also preordered the Augmented Edition, but I didn't see anything like this in-game. Of course, I preordered from STEAM, so I got some pretty sweet props and guns for TF2, some videos, a soundtrack...and that's it. Also, the first time I bought the Augs they cost 5000 credits per' Praxis Point. I had collected enough money to open up a new Augment, so bye-bye to that money.