DEUS EX REMAKE

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Coathangerjay

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I think it would be cool it eidos montreal remade the original Deus Ex. They should totally do that next. Keep it basically the same story line.. maybe a little bit different in how you grow to become what ever JC becomes in the end.. but mainly just remake it with all the detail and beauty they put into HR.

I'd also like to say that I am enjoying play Deus Ex Human Revolution. I haven't finished it yet. I am alittle sad about how short it seems to be compared to the original.. They should have gotten Warren Specter in on it.. man.. that could have been his Star Trek.
 

Rack

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Deus Ex is damned ugly, even with the New Vision pack the characters look atrocious so I can definitely see the point in a remake. The only thing is I'm not sure what you'd do about the gameplay. It's absurdly clunky by modern standards, enemies are practically blind to compensate for the player being practically blind and there are some horrible sections in there. Changing these will only anger long term fans, but leaving them the same will leave everyone else wondering what the fuss was about because it's been robbed of context.

It seems like a minefield to me, so instead I think it would be better to sidestep the issue. Create a sequel to Human Revolution that takes place at the same time as Deus Ex. Cover the events from a different angle so the story makes sense to newcomers and has lots of references for old time players.
 

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TheKasp said:
Why the fuck does everything need a remake? Because it does not look shiny and pretty? So what, it still plays a bazillion times better than Deus Ex: HR and is no freakin lie about freedom ingame.

No, Eidos Montreal should let their fingers from anything Deus Ex related and give the job to people who do not outsource parts of the game to other companies, make bad cutscenes or sell a cut product (I did not preorder it so I don't have the "bonus" (or better: taken away from customers) mission).

If you want to play Deus Ex: Do so. If you want looks over gameplay, play anything else.
And if they do remake it, nothing stops you from never playing it and just keep enjoying the original. It's not like it's going to be erased from existence if it gets remade.

OT: I'm not sure if a remake is necessary really. There is sort of a disconnect between HR and the original where HR looks way more advanced technologically even though it's supposed to be set earlier to the future. But then again, I don't really want to play through the same storyline again, and I'd rather a sequel that would take Invisible War's place in the canon.
 

Exterminas

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It would not be profitable.
Deus Ex was a lot longer than HR, remaking all the unique locations in the shiney new engine would cost a fortune.
 

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TheKasp said:
Why the fuck does everything need a remake? Because it does not look shiny and pretty? So what, it still plays a bazillion times better than Deus Ex: HR and is no freakin lie about freedom ingame.
Video games aren't like movies, which have some degree of timelessness. Games are very much so restricted by the technology avaliable to the developer at that time, so they tend not to age very well.

Given that the original Deus Ex has aged ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY, then a remake isn't totally uncalled for.
 

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Wuggy said:
TheKasp said:
Why the fuck does everything need a remake? Because it does not look shiny and pretty? So what, it still plays a bazillion times better than Deus Ex: HR and is no freakin lie about freedom ingame.

No, Eidos Montreal should let their fingers from anything Deus Ex related and give the job to people who do not outsource parts of the game to other companies, make bad cutscenes or sell a cut product (I did not preorder it so I don't have the "bonus" (or better: taken away from customers) mission).

If you want to play Deus Ex: Do so. If you want looks over gameplay, play anything else.
And if they do remake it, nothing stops you from never playing it and just keep enjoying the original. It's not like it's going to be erased from existence if it gets remade.
Yeah, but you don't get to play whatever other game they could have been working on until 3 years later.
 

GiantRaven

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TheKasp said:
No, Eidos Montreal should let their fingers from anything Deus Ex related and give the job to people who do not outsource parts of the game to other companies, make bad cutscenes or sell a cut product (I did not preorder it so I don't have the "bonus" (or better: taken away from customers) mission).
The bonus mission that was one of the least interesting side-quests in the game, and was all of 10 minutes of gameplay? That bonus mission?

Yeah, that's not a particularly big deal.
 

Wuggy

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WalrusPowers said:
Wuggy said:
TheKasp said:
Why the fuck does everything need a remake? Because it does not look shiny and pretty? So what, it still plays a bazillion times better than Deus Ex: HR and is no freakin lie about freedom ingame.

No, Eidos Montreal should let their fingers from anything Deus Ex related and give the job to people who do not outsource parts of the game to other companies, make bad cutscenes or sell a cut product (I did not preorder it so I don't have the "bonus" (or better: taken away from customers) mission).

If you want to play Deus Ex: Do so. If you want looks over gameplay, play anything else.
And if they do remake it, nothing stops you from never playing it and just keep enjoying the original. It's not like it's going to be erased from existence if it gets remade.
Yeah, but you don't get to play whatever other game they could have been working on until 3 years later.
Well, yes. But that product is entirely hypothetical (although to be fair, this whole discussion is hypothetical as well, so let's call it... double-hypothetical). There is no way of knowing what the branch would be working on instead.
 

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Stall said:
Video games aren't like movies, which have some degree of timelessness. Games are very much so restricted by the technology avaliable to the developer at that time, so they tend not to age very well.

Given that the original Deus Ex has aged ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY, then a remake isn't totally uncalled for.
Jesus, this. Games are so tied to technology that classics can quickly become horribly obsolete. Remaking a game with modern production values can be a sign of tremendous respect for that game, as long as a reasonable effort is undertaken to remain true to the spirit of the original.
 

Azrael the Cat

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Why does every game have to be either AAA+ or indie, with nothing in-between?

Here's an idea. Remake the original Deus Ex using something like the Source engine, with HL2-level graphics. That engine can handle both crpgs and wide open areas much better than most people think - e.g. Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines. That would make it less ugly, so newer players could get into it, while preserving the original gameplay.

Some indie developers do that all the time - e.g. Vogel keeps re-releasing his Exile/Avernum games as he updates his engines so that newer customers have the same gameplay but with better engines and graphics.

Or how about this for another idea. There is still a huge market of gamers wanting complexity and challenge in this genre of game. We see that in the way that games like VtM:B are 'long-sellers', continuing to sell decent units a good decade after the game was released - FO:NV looks like it will have a similar following, in that while its initial sales were lower than FO, it's continued sales are much much higher, and it is still selling really strongly.

Even the infinity engine games (Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale series) still sell units.

The problem isn't that there's a lack of market (though quite a few of that market will need to be enticed back into gaming, having abandoned the hobby as the industry made clear that they no longer wanted their business), it's that it's easier to pump out games that can be made in one year, and aim them at the biggest market possible, meaning that genres (like the Thief/System-Shock/Deus-Ex style of games) can have a profitable market and still not get made.

But many of the fans of that genre don't need or care about cutting edge graphics, and flat-out hate cinematics and cutscenes. SO....why not do the same thing that film studios do. Run indie substudios as an offshoot of your main studio, and use it to introduce new talented up-and-comers, as well as giving folk who are jaded with the mainstream industry and need some time out working on a 'labour-of-love' a break from the AAA scene. Give them the engines and tech from 2-3 years ago, and an A or B budget, rather than the AAA that everyone treats as the only alternative to indie. Let them make complex games - games with the complexity of the original Deus Ex, or Ultima Underworld, or System Shock 2; or games with the literary emphasis of Planescape: Torment; or games with the difficulty of Wizardry 4; etc.

With low budgets, they'd make money while updating those genres without 'dumbing down' or 'streamlining'. In the meantime, the youngsters and those who like simple games will still get the games that they like - except the quality of those may even be boosted, by having the side-studio system work as a means of giving talented young developers experience, that they can then take to the more simplified AAA projects.

That way everybody wins - we all get the games we like, and the studios get to make profits in both markets.

It works for film - why not give it a go here?
 

AyreonMaiden

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YOU GOT ME ALL EXCITED. I'm a newly minted Deus Ex fan thanks to Human Revolution, and I'd love to play the original in some way that wasn't a PC...or fugly. Sorry nostalgia heads, but everyone has their price with these kinds of things, and Deus Ex is fucking ugly as sin.

Anyway, I say I'm all for a remake of Deus Ex in absolutely whatever manner they feel necessary, SO LONG as the original becomes readily available in some way for those who don't want it (through GOG, XBLA/PSN, etc.)
 

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I never understand people who complain about graphics. Seems to be the newer generation of gamers who find graphics as a deal breaker.

If the gameplay/story/level design etc are great it doesn't matter if its photo-realistic or if it looks like shit.

No need to remake Deus Ex it's brilliant as it is.
 

GiantRaven

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TheKasp said:
So spending money and realising that I did not get a full game is not a big deal? I don't think so.
So Deus Ex: Human Revolution without that 10 minute mission could never possibly have counted as a full game? You're being preposterous.

Even without the bonus content, there's still enough packed into HR to be worth paying full price for.
 

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Ubermetalhed said:
I never understand people who complain about graphics. Seems to be the newer generation of gamers who find graphics as a deal breaker.

If the gameplay/story/level design etc are great it doesn't matter if its photo-realistic or if it looks like shit.

No need to remake Deus Ex it's brilliant as it is.
If someone were to faithfully recreate Deus Ex as a roguelike, would you say the same thing? I really doubt that you would. Graphics matter. They don't matter as much as most other things, but they matter; it's why I can go back and play HL2 again, or even Doom, but can't stick with the original Quake. No amount of nostalgia will make Quake pretty again - at least Doom's sprites looked organic.

This effect is more pronounced when you're dealing with an IP you never played. I didn't play Deus Ex when it came out because I was too busy with Diablo 2 and Starcraft, when I wasn't at school. It's more than a decade later now, and as much as I'd like to go through and experience the magnificence of the original, I can't. I simply can't. It's motherfucking hideous, and no amount of humanity can turn those block-people into people. I don't know if you're a GTA player, but I'm willing to bet that if you were you'd choose -any- of the iterations that came after GTA3 over GTA3 itself.