Did anyone else not like Inglorious Bastards

[MajorMurray]

I finally rented from Netflix Inglorious Bastards, and to my suprise, I didn't like it. I don't hate it, just it was kind of, well, bad. Now I love the previous movies from this creator like Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill. But the movie didn't connect with me like the others did. Now I talked with my friends and I searched the internet, and I can't find anyone who dislikes the movie the same why I do. Now people dislike it for different reasons, not one that I agreed with. The people who didn't think this was good was because of the gore or how Hitler was portrayed. I'm going to list what I disliked about it.

1. Stupidity: What I mean is by how all the characters seem to act extremely dumb. Like when the Bastards were going to blow up the cinema. After the Lt. was captured the Bear Jew and the other bastard killed two guards and killed Hitler, now instead of trying to get out of the cinema while it was burning, they stand their and shoot into the crowd WHILE THEY HAVE BOMBS STRAPPED TO THEIR ANKLES. I mean, did they just forget about the bombs? To me this was the thing that disconnected me from the movie. But another stupid thing, all save for my next complaint.

2. The basement scene: The entire time they were in the basement tavern. I felt that it went on for to long and I hated how the whole thing was handled. All start from the top. They try to show us that the Nazis, or just regular Germans, have a human side. Why? This is supposed to be a revenge flick? Why are we not seeing Gestapo or SS being horribly murdered? Why do I have to see Werchmant soldiers, the actual regular joes be graphically killed. Also, why did the Why was the German bastard so dumb, instead of going for a kill shot on the Major, he shot him in the balls. Instead of trying to shoot some else while the British spy shot him, he just shots him in the balls! Wilhem, poor, poor Wilhem. That really pulled me out of it, and made me hate that German Actress character. And you really had to screw drive in that he was a loving husband and father just before killing him uselessly.

3. If they are going after Nazis, why are they killing Germans: It seems like the movie wanted to show how evil the Nazis were and how they should be treated. Ok, but why were the Bastards going after Werchmant instead of say, the SS and Gestapo. But then it has the gall, to show the human side of the Germans. This made me angry, I don't want to think that rational human beinsg who only fight to defend their country could be a part or stand bye the Nazi Party.

4. Horrible Music Ques: Exactly what it says on the tin.

5. It needs a good editor: I haven't seen such a long movie in a long time. I feel that it should have really been cut down like the Lord of the Rings movies, just imagine if they didn't cut that stuff out that was put on extended edition. It would be three hours long, almost as long as this movie. The run time is two hours and thirty minutes, good god. I thought Full Metal Jacket was long. All the scenes just really kept going without getting anywhere. It was so bad the only character I liked was Landa, the jew hunter! The only character I ended up liking, was the bad guy. Wow, I don't know what to say about that.

So does anyone agree with me on these notes and/or dislike the movie for these reasons.

 

[HerbertTheHamster]

I think Tarantino had been working on the script for a looooooooooooooooong time, so it's kind of a mess of different movie versions.

I really did hate how incredibly fucking stupid the bastards were though, they were like a group of Forrest Gumps with empathy issues.

 

[gloomfrost]

yep i thought it was an awful , cliched film.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

I disagree with every point and thought it was expertly crafted. And to address some of your points.

1. They had to kill Hitler no matter the cost. They were going to blow the m selves up while killing as many Germans/Nazis as they could.

2. The basement scene was the best part of the movie. The tension, the dialogue between everyone. The reason for the ball shot, is he hated that Nazi and wanted to cause him harm. He was a character filled with hate, and they gave the Nazis a human side to show that they too were humans. fathers mothers just like the rest.

3. I'll be honest I can't answer this only due to not seeing the movie in a while.

4. I guess it comes down to if you like the music or or not. I did thats really all there is about this.

5. The thing is Quentin Tarantino's movies are always long. Some people say they are dragged out, but it adds to the films IMO. I like seeing his movies no matter how long they are. The movies are always memorable.

Maybe its because I say Quentin Tarantino can do almost no wrong. He is my favorite director, so you might want a less biased person.

 

[crudus]

1. I wondered this too. It is possible they got lost in their rage or what have you.

2. Because this is a Tarantino movie. Most of his movies involved large lengths of time where there is nothing but dialogue.

3. The characters themselves didn't see the difference. To them German = Nazi.

4. I never pay attention to music.

5. It really didn't feel like that to me, but I haven't seen the movie since it came out.

 

[HassEsser]

Rampant typo's forced me to stop reading in the middle of point 2.

OT: I agree and disagree

 

[The Cap]

i didnt mind the film as a whole, but the one bit that annoyed me, when the chunky geezer with the baseball bat cracks the german who doesnt flinch or anyting and when he asks "whether he gets it for killing jews?" he says "bravery", but gets battered anyway. made me think that he was a **** for the rest of the film.

so in the end i was morally neutral between the germans and the jews, favouring neither, probably not what your meant to end up feeling at the end of the movie

 

[Ghengis John]

I never saw it. I've been meaning to, so I can critique it, but see the thing is my uncle albert, who's a WWII vet said he hated it. The worst thing he said was how they treated the germans. That kinda stunned me. I don't mean to paint myself out as a dumbass here, but that a WWII veteran, a man who fought and lost friends to the nazis would have less hatred for the germans than modern day man-children, well it kinda put things into perspective for me. I always thought the movie looked kinda dumb, that's how he managed to see it before I did, but I really lost any interest in seeing it then.

 

[flamingjimmy]

I thought it was very mediocre, I've felt the same way about everything he's done recently though, Jackie Brown was the last good film he made imo.

 

[Redem]

I think Tarantino had been working on the script for a looooooooooooooooong time, so it's kind of a mess of different movie versions.

I really did hate how incredibly fucking stupid the bastards were though, they were like a group of Forrest Gumps with empathy issues.

Very much so, they are bit of the movie I like other that are just rather stale

The basement sequence is almost as painful as watching deadproof

 

[Custard_Angel]

I loved it.

It was a movie equivalent of a switcheroo.

They advertised a buckets of blood Nazi shoot 'em up and then delivered a buckets of dialogue Nazi drama.

Good dialogue too. Full of relevant pop culture from the 1940's delivered by authentic characters.

As for the length of the movie, I wish there was more of it. I would personally have liked to see it delivered as a 2 part movie with more backstory given to Shosanna's escape from Hanz Landa and to the exploits of the basterds themselves.

Also, the movie was actually interesting and original, which can't be said of that many blockbuster movies these days. It took a genre that people have seen done to death and rewrote how it should go to present something completely new.

I wish more movies did this sort of thing.

 

[MajorMurray]

No no no, I thought that I should explain the Musical ques. It was que, the way it was played out. When the French African is about to put the cinema in flames, by burning movies no less while a movie plays. The music got way to loud for me, I turned it down but I can't believe how that must have sounded in a movie theatre. Also it was playing then it cut to no music with no transition at all.

Now I just didn't like it because I had high hopes for the movie. But, it disappointed me. Maybe the Bastards were just filled with rage in the cinema and maybe they only saw Germans as Nazis, but that just makes even dumber.

What misspellings?

EDIT: Four replies, dang, I need to be faster.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

To me this movie was nothing special. I totally agree that it was really dragged out in parts of it, but i actually liked the parts where things of any real significance happened.

As for the soundtrack i'd say a soundtrack i didn't notice is pretty good because it probably means that it was flowing so well with the movie it didn't make my senses crash into eachother.

 

[octafish]

I thought it was pretty meh. It had flashes of cleverness, but a whole lot of awfulness. Christoph Waltz was pretty damn good as was Mélanie Lauren. In fact their half of the film was the only part I was at all interested in, the Basterds were pretty naff characters. Tarantino should go back to telling other peoples stories, as a previous poster said, Jackie Brown was his last truly great film.

 

[thiosk]

When I walked out of the theater, I proclaimed loudly "AND THATS HOW WE WON THE WAR!"

Everyone agreed with me.

I liked it. Slavish devotion to nothing. Nothing but fun. And its not really JUST a revenge flick. I mean, all the parts with the bear jew made the movie. Didn't need anything else. Also, it had brad pitt acting all gruff.

As for the basterds being stupid, well, they're the basterds, not the "upstanding gentlemen"

 

[josemlopes]

No no no, I thought that I should explain the Musical ques. It was que, the way it was played out. When the French African is about to put the cinema in flames, by burning movies no less while a movie plays. The music got way to loud for me, I turned it down but I can't believe how that must have sounded in a movie theatre. Also it was playing then it cut to no music with no transition at all.

Now I just didn't like it because I had high hopes for the movie. But, it disappointed me. Maybe the Bastards were just filled with rage in the cinema and maybe they only saw Germans as Nazis, but that just makes even dumber.

What misspellings?

EDIT: Four replies, dang, I need to be faster.

You should have watched it in a theatre, the sound was quite awesome, the music was loud and so were the gunshots, and the screaming and the flames, basicly it was chaos just like what we were looking at.

I remember that after leaving the theatre the sound of that particular scene made me think about the power of sound in a movie. It really impressed me.

But well, it sucks that you didnt like it, one less thing to love.

 

[anthony87]

1: Would the fact that the bombs are strapped to their ankles not tell you that they were on a suicide mission? They didn't stay because of stupidity, they stayed because they weren't planning on leaving the cinema alive.

2:The basement scene was one of the standout points of the movie. It's what Tarantino does best, he creates scenes of tension where charaters simply exchange words before shit hits the fan. Of course it's drawn out, if it wasn't drawn out there'd be no tension. As for showing the human side of the Germans/Nazis....why exactly is that a bad thing? I mean they ARE human.

3:It was a gurilla war from the Basterds point of view. I wouldn't exactly think that they were picking and choosing their targets, they were just causing as much chaos as possible for the Germans. Besides, they weren't going after "Germans" they were going after "German soldiers".

4:I....I never noticed anything regard this.

5:If you found the film too long then that's your attention span, no fault of the film maker...I must say I find this to be an odd complaint considering that you mentioned liking Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction, both of them being long movies. And of course you liked Hans Landa. EVERYONE DID!

EDIT:

Spoiler

1. Stupidity: What I mean is by how all the characters seem to act extremely dumb. Like when the Bastards were going to blow up the cinema. After the Lt. was captured the Bear Jew and the other bastard killed two guards and killed Hitler, now instead of trying to get out of the cinema while it was burning, they stand their and shoot into the crowd WHILE THEY HAVE BOMBS STRAPPED TO THEIR ANKLES. I mean, did they just forget about the bombs? To me this was the thing that disconnected me from the movie. But another stupid thing, all save for my next complaint.

They were in France to kill Nazis. They were in the presence of pretty much every major higher-up of the Third Reich. They were more concerned with killing every last high-ranking Nazi they could aim at. And quite frankly, even if they did remember the dynamite around their ankles, I think they would have happily stayed in the cinema rather than running if it meant for certain that Hitler and every high-ranking Nazi official was killed. You have to remember that Shosannah's involvement was unplanned. They would have had just as little idea as the Nazis as to what was going on, and would therefore have just focused on executing their plan as best they could.

2. The basement scene: The entire time they were in the basement tavern. I felt that it went on for to long and I hated how the whole thing was handled. All start from the top. They try to show us that the Nazis, or just regular Germans, have a human side. Why? This is supposed to be a revenge flick? Why are we not seeing Gestapo or SS being horribly murdered? Why do I have to see Werchmant soldiers, the actual regular joes be graphically killed. Also, why did the Why was the German bastard so dumb, instead of going for a kill shot on the Major, he shot him in the balls. Instead of trying to shoot some else while the British spy shot him, he just shots him in the balls! Wilhem, poor, poor Wilhem. That really pulled me out of it, and made me hate that German Actress character. And you really had to screw drive in that he was a loving husband and father just before killing him uselessly.

The basement scene is one of the best scenes in the movie, for a number of reasons. Firstly, the tension in that scene is incredible. Seeing the Gestapo officer and the British secret agent trying to outmanouver each other was brilliant, if only for the feeling that shit could kick off at any minute. Secondly, it injects a sense of brutal realism. Characters are killed off senselessly and without warning, just as in real life war. That scene was the scene that re-affirmed the movie as having serious dark undertones, the opening scene with Landa having been somewhat swept aside by the basterds and their dark brand of comedy.

3. If they are going after Nazis, why are they killing Germans: It seems like the movie wanted to show how evil the Nazis were and how they should be treated. Ok, but why were the Bastards going after Werchmant instead of say, the SS and Gestapo. But then it has the gall, to show the human side of the Germans. This made me angry, I don't want to think that rational human beinsg who only fight to defend their country could be a part or stand bye the Nazi Party.

Aldo Rainne pretty much states the Basterds MO at the start of the movie, after the scene with Col. Landa. They're on a mission to scare the shit out of the German forces stationed in France. The SS and the Gestapo were mostly stationed in Germany, in urban areas. I'd imagine that Gestapo officers were pretty hard to come by out in the French countryside.

And no offence, but while you may not like to think it, plenty of people did. Not everyone in Germany was a Nazi, and Tarantino even points that out in the film's dialogue. But Hitler would not have gotten anywhere without substantial support from the German public, and while that may not make for comforting thoughts, it's worth remembering. People weren't fighting to defend their country, at least not at the start. They were fighting because Hitler led them to war. I think it's also worth remembering the millions of Polish, French and Hungarian civilians and soldiers who dies because of Germany's unprovoked attacks. Do I bear current Germans any ill will because of this? Of course not. But it's worth remembering just how far the German population of the 30s and 40s were willing to support Hitler and his policies.

4. Horrible Music Ques: Exactly what it says on the tin.

Subjective. I for one enjoyed the music.

5. It needs a good editor: I haven't seen such a long movie in a long time. I feel that it should have really been cut down like the Lord of the Rings movies, just imagine if they didn't cut that stuff out that was put on extended edition. It would be three hours long, almost as long as this movie. The run time is two hours and thirty minutes, good god. I thought Full Metal Jacket was long. All the scenes just really kept going without getting anywhere. It was so bad the only character I liked was Landa, the jew hunter! The only character I ended up liking, was the bad guy. Wow, I don't know what to say about that.

Firstly, Tarantino does long movies. That's how he works. In this case, it meant he got to include multiple story threads that wove together into one whole, and he gave each section enough room to breathe and establish its own identity. In the long run (ha!) two and a half hours is not an unreasonable length for a movie.

Secondly, you were supposed to like Landa. Tarantino picked Christoph Waltz for a reason. SS officers have always been portrayed as homicidal psychopaths with no endearing qualities. Waltz and Tarantino decided instead to make their SS officer charming, educated and intelligent, like many SS officers were in real life. The reason Landa worked as a villain is because he wasn't a cartoon. He was a charming, likeable man who did despicable things. Just like many real life Nazis.

You Ninja'd me on pretty much every point I made, but with much better detail. Good show sir!

 

[Robert Ewing]

It looked like a movie that would be kind of cool, in a explosion murder-thon kinda way. But it took around 90% with a French woman, and a lot of dreary shit to even get to the good bits. And even then, they weren't that good.

Disappoint you Inglorious Basterds *in Mexican accent.*