Did you ever attend a private university?

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Alvin Joseph

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1. How was your experience?

2. If you studied at a public school at any point, how would you describe the differences?

3. Would you enroll in a graduate program there?
 

zen5887

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I studied music as a private university from '08 to '11. For reference I finished high school in '07, I went to a pretty low SES school in a smallish town about an hour away from my states capital. Right now I'm three years into an education degree at a public university.

1. For the most part it was alright. The tutors were decent (they got better), and my classmates were really good people. Although I started the first year the campus opened, and you could tell everything was new. Which was kind of good because all the rooms and equipment were brand new and booking rehearsal and one-on-one time was really easy. But it was bad because none of the admin staff had any idea what to do, we didn't get wi-fi until the start of my third year, there was no Blackboard or Moodle system until third year and everything was kind of shaky. Actually, the whole place was kind of shaky, regardless of how new it was. The institution itself had been around since the 80s, yet there were still spelling mistakes on the assignment task sheets, and any issue with had took ages to get worked out. Rough around the edges is one of the ways we talked about it. Which didn't really bother me that much, but considering the cost of it, maybe it should have. An average 4 year degree in Australia is $12k to $18k, this one cost me $55k. I got it on a loan scheme so I'll probably be paying it off for the rest of my days.

The course itself was fine. It was super hands on which is important for a creative degree. Over the four years I was there I played in like 15 bands, recorded a 4 track EP and two singles, made a music video clip, played a bunch of gigs (a couple at my cities really really big venues), and made a load of contacts. This is what made the course worth it for me. Having said that, I'm fairly certain this stuff gets done in most of the other music programs in my city. For many thousands of dollars less.

I went back there last year to help a friend with a recital and I feel like it's got way worse. They are doing trimesters and allowing for late entry, meaning there are 3 cohorts a years, all out of sync with one another. This means that it's almost impossible to get extra rehearsal time and the place is so god damn crowded (it's a small building with six different faculties). And because it's trimesters everything is done so fast. A four year degree takes two and a half years. I don't know how much content you can learn if you're going that fast.

Finally, I could rant about private education for years, but I don't have the time. Another day, maybe. Basically, I'm not a fan. This institution definitely cared more about marketing and it's "image" than it did it's academic ability. And that is just pretty wrong.

2. My public university is 1000x times bigger. There were definitely more people in my intro to education lecture than there were in the whole campus where I did music. It's a lot more organised and overall just way better. I can't really say if that's because my public uni has existed for longer or not, but my university now is infinitely better than my old one.

3. They don't offer a grad program but even if they did I wouldn't enroll. I'm hesitant to recommend the undergrad program.

Good thread, OP.
 

CymbaIine

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archiebawled said:
CymbaIine said:
What's a private uni? Do we have them in the UK?
I think we have one. If we do then it's about as well-known as you'd expect given that neither of us are sure...
Hogwarts maybe?

Given how much we have to pay now anyway Christ knows what a private uni would charge. We would probably have to hand over our first borns soul.
 

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I attended Bethel University in Minnesota. If you were interested in attending private universities and don't want to be depressed, I would recommend that you not read this. Incoming rant...

The experience itself DURING college was nice. The facilities were nice. The faculty was nice. The perks (like the weekly worship concerts with huge stage setups) were nice. I felt like Bethel was there to really help me out and take care of me. They had a job placement program that would get me on my feet. I got a Liberal Arts degree with my BA, which would be a nice fallback if graphic design failed me. A young and naive 18 year old tippy2k2 was looking forward to the rest of his life...

I did not go to a public college ever but fuck private universities. Fuck them with a rusty spoon...that is coated in acid...and shoots out tiny little spikes so that even after the spoon has been removed, you still have metal inside of you...and the metal smells like dog doo...

I have been out of college for six years of my life at this point and this degree has been about as useful to me as the piece of paper it's written on (hell, possibly even less for it took me almost a year after graduating to get a job because "I was overqualified" for just about everything I had a chance to go after). I STILL owe about $60,000 in debt (again, six years later) and my student loans have absolutely crippled my life. So much of my money goes at student loans that I am still living paycheck to paycheck all these years later. Hell, this was also six years ago and I received financial aid going to this school; I can't imagine how fucked the new batch of students are going to be...

"Why tippy2k2, you talked about that job placement program! Why don't you use that you silly billy?". Do you want to know what the job placement program was (this is the same at the other universities that I've asked friends about btw). It's a shitty website with job postings on it. A glorified fucking Craig's List is our job placement program (along with the helpful advice of "Have you tried Monster.com"?).

Now to be fair, I've made mistakes along the way too. I should have looked more into my program. I should have looked more into the job placement. I should have done a lot of things. However, and this is going to sound really mean but I promise you that you'll agree with me when you're older; 18 year old kids are very stupid people.

I didn't research this stuff because I'd been told by people all my life that this was what you were "supposed" to do. If it's what you're supposed to do, it has to be good, right? An 18 year old just doesn't have the experience to realize that maybe these colleges have another motivation for trying to keep you in school.

TLDR; Seriously kids, go to a public school. Unless you're looking for a super specialty (doctor, lawyer, or one of those types of jobs), don't waste your money and your life going private.
 

ohnoitsabear

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I have never attended a private university, but I have a friend that went to a small christian private school for a couple of years before transferring over to a public university. Her experience was not good. The story she keeps telling is about an introductory biology class where the professor skipped the chapters on evolution. He had one question on a test about it, asking if you believe in evolution. You got points off if you answered yes.

Not to mention that because the school was so shitty, none of my friend's credits were able to transfer, meaning she basically wasted two years and a shitload of money for jack shit.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are some excellent private universities out there, many of which are religious. But you really, really have to be careful, because they can fuck you over even more than regular universities.
 

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1) Yeah, I got a really good scholarship to Denison, a small, private, liberal arts school that does well in its own category of rankings. I'm a physics major, so I can't speak to the relative merits of liberal arts degrees in the job market.

2) Yes, I spent a year at Ohio University. The main differences were in the degree of difficulty of the classes, the size of the classes, and the size of the school itself.
While I knew it wasn't going to be as challenging, I wasn't quite prepared for how easy it ended up being. It's obviously different if you're going to one of those amazing public schools that's nationally famous for being good at academics, but I basically slept my way to a high GPA.
To be fair, one of the things small colleges focus on is class size, but all of my major classes from a couple different departments had less than 10 people in them, and my minor/GE classes almost never have more than 20 people in them. I don't think I had a class with fewer than 25 people in it at the public school.
Size comparison: Denison~2,200 undergrads, OU~23,000 undergrads.

3) Denison doesn't have graduate programs, and I probably wouldn't go to OU for my field. They have really good graduate music theory and journalism and the like, but not great Physics. Basically, for grad school, you'll either know exactly what subset of your subject you'll want to study, in which case go to a small school with a strong specialty in that area, or you won't, and you should go to a larger school that covers a given subject well in a broader sense.
 

zen5887

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tippy2k2 said:
TLDR; Seriously kids, go to a public school. Unless you're looking for a super specialty (doctor, lawyer, or one of those types of jobs), don't waste your money and your life going private.
Yeah this is pretty much the crux of the matter.

I can't think of anything a private uni could do that a public one couldn't (except let me in.. Whoops). Unless you're super duper into having a load of debt I'd stay away from them.
 

Booklover13

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1. How was your experience?

Very good, I went to a good school for engineering, so well worth the money. I succeeded at my goal of yearly salary > tuition for a year. Part of my choice to go their has the high job placement rate(96% of graduates within 6 months of graduation), and the programs they had to support it.

2. If you studied at a public school at any point, how would you describe the differences?

I never studied a a public school but when I was looking into them something that stuck out was a on average higher student to professor ratio. I prefer smaller class sizes and that is one reason why I went private.

3. Would you enroll in a graduate program there?

I would if I had any interest in grad school(I don't). However I am friends with several people who did/are and their experience have been good. My school offers a 5 year BS/MS so you can take some Grad classes and have them count for both undergraduate and graduate study. Its great for people on that path.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
TLDR; Seriously kids, go to a public school. Unless you're looking for a super specialty (doctor, lawyer, or one of those types of jobs), don't waste your money and your life going private.
Well, its only cheaper if you live in that state, otherwise it costs just as much as private. Not all public universities are created equal as well, both in terms of quality and what they offer.

Non resident tuition is like 3x resident tuition.
 

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Went to Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio

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While I bitched and complained about it the whole time, I think that the actual education that I received was top notch. I was able to play varsity baseball my first year, and then decide that it was way too much of a time commitment. Unfortunately I missed out on the whole student organizations thing, which if I had another chance I would fix. The only thing I have a problem with is that while it is well regarded as an engineering school, the career center has pretty shitty tools and information for engineering students.

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I took a couple of summer classes at UC Davis and UC Riverside. The quality of the classes just wasn't there. I took differential equations at UC Davis after dropping at Case because it was just too much for me. We covered half the material in the 6 week summer course as we did at Case, which is good for my gpa but if I actually needed that class then I'd be fucked later on.

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Definitely would enroll in the graduate program. It's top notch
 

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I attend Worcester Polytech in Massachusetts, USA.

My experience has been very enlightening so far. It's also had the most stressful, expensive, and challenging moments of my life. I've been getting by with financial aid and work study to cover my expenses as well as occasional gift money from relatives. I often regret my decision to go to a private university whenever it comes time to pay tuition. Then I remind myself how awful growing up in the public education system was and how much I dislike large classrooms and I start to regret that decision less. I hope my degree directed through the various job resources offered through the career development center will get me a job that is somewhere I can tolerate living in doing something that pays well enough for a small apartment, living expenses, and my student loans. Anything beyond that is a luxury I don't mind giving up for a few years.

I have not taken classes at a public university.

I would not consider graduate classes there. I personally value real world work place experience more than continued research in an area that limits future options. I'd prefer to start working down my debt sooner than later, which makes graduate school less appealing as well. I've also heard from a professor that it looks better on a resume for your graduate school to differ from your base college experience. I have not verified this beyond this off-hand remark mostly due to confirmation bias and lack of interest.
 

Vault101

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I don't know the the system differs here in Aus

as far as I know in my city/state theres only one private university (the University of Notre dame) I'm not sure how it rates in terms of reputation but I don't think people would rate it higher than saaaaaaay UWA (university of WA)

all I know is its smaller, their "system" is a little different and some units on theology are mandatory? I also know aside from UWA its the only place that offers medicine....only after you have a degree...
 

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I go to one of new york states SUNY schools. Id rather not say which, but its way up north. It isn't ranked high amoung the other state schools, and its priced at community collge tutition, but they offer 4 year degrees, which is all I could really ever afford. The school is small, the fallculty is nice, the people are sociable and happy. My only concern is how my degree in biology will look to employeers, since the school isn't known for academics.
 

James0026

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Yeah. I graduated from Colegio de San Francisco. It was a Catholic and Private institution. It was good.
 

James0026

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Yeah. I graduated from Colegio de San Francisco. It was a Catholic and Private institution. It was good.
 

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zen5887 said:
I studied music as a private university from '08 to '11. For reference I finished high school in '07, I went to a pretty low SES school in a smallish town about an hour away from my states capital. Right now I'm three years into an education degree at a public university.
What state mate? If it's NSW then good luck finding a teaching job (unless you're secondary trained then maybe it's easier). I completed my Education Degree (Primary) last year and so far have only gotten casual work. There's been a recent glut of teachers that just graduated and unfortunately I am part of that glut. Last year they were struggling to find teachers, this year there's too many.

I studied at a public university, private is just too expensive and from what I have heard isn't worth it.
 

zen5887

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pearcinator said:
zen5887 said:
I studied music as a private university from '08 to '11. For reference I finished high school in '07, I went to a pretty low SES school in a smallish town about an hour away from my states capital. Right now I'm three years into an education degree at a public university.
What state mate? If it's NSW then good luck finding a teaching job (unless you're secondary trained then maybe it's easier). I completed my Education Degree (Primary) last year and so far have only gotten casual work. There's been a recent glut of teachers that just graduated and unfortunately I am part of that glut. Last year they were struggling to find teachers, this year there's too many.

I studied at a public university, private is just too expensive and from what I have heard isn't worth it.
Queensland. Yeah the job prospect is always a worry, even worse considering I probably won't go bush after I graduate. I'm just gonna cross my fingers and hope that me being a dude and graduating halfway through the year will be enough to get me a steady gig. I'm willing to do sub work but geez it's so unstable.