Do you think dragons are overdone and boring?

[Engarde]

Obviously with Skyrim coming out there are several people saying OMG HAS DRAGUNZ! I've never heard that as a selling point before, even from games called Dragon Age. It doesn't really do it for me, however. It'd just be like saying a game has elves. Same fantasy stereotype creature. The same as always, like elves and dwarves and perhaps orcs. Now if Skyrim has krakens and you learned kraken words....that'd be awesome.

Anyone as topic says, dragons always the same like elves? Don't like em, want new villains, prefer krakens, giant turtles, whatever? Discuss, my pretties, discuss!

EDIT: I don't mean to jab at Skyrim. I don't know how good those dragons, they just felt a little uncreative. Though that could also be wrong, I don't plan on buying it to find out.

EDIT THE SECOND: I mean, as examples of what was bothering me. Got into WOW cataclysm - enemy, giant dragon. Skyrim, enemies, giant dragons. Got into tabletop game called Warmachine, bad guys? Trying to steal dragons to power up their dragon. Also, octopi can move (but limited) on land so krakens should be able to fully move one land (blame magic).

 

[Phlakes]

But Skyrim had fucking awesome dragons that you kill with swords and that do things dynamically.

 

[Sight Unseen]

Dragons are awesome in skyrim because they are unscripted, free roaming and unpredictable creatures. And they look incredible and seem to move extremely fluidly and realistically, and they just look awesome.

Yes dragons are a fantasy trope, but they're new to TES, at least the past few iterations, and they look to be a really great addition to the game.

 

[Solid Reece]

I think zombies are way more overdone and boring. Come on, TV,Movies,Games and still coming

 

[DirgeNovak]

It's true that the whole "OMG DRAGONS" craze around Skyrim since it was announced is fucking weird. Every other fantasy universe has dragons, it's not a huge deal. Yes, they're cool, but dragons didn't sell Skyrim to me. It's all the other enhancements that did.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I don't think Dragons are there yet. Zombies are more on the level of, 'done so often I simply don't care anymore'. Dragons are just coming back into a mainstream vogue. Remember though, that these sort of trends are cyclical. Steampunk has also been a thorn up my ass for a while now and I know it's only a matter of time before Cyberpunk makes its triumphant return (and may have already done with Deus Ex Human Revolution). It's only a matter of time before we see Dragons within Cyberpunk land either in the form of test-tube wyrms or, cybernetic Androi-gans. Either of which would be fucking brutal as all hell. Which reminds me, I need to get my ass to Hollywood and convince them to get King Ghidra and Mecha King Kong in the upcoming Godzilla remake...

On a final note: A Kraken is an awesome, AWESOME monster. Love those bastards and, I do mean all kinds from humanoid (Clash of the Titans classic) to modern (Cthulhu wannabes). No reasons why they can't co-exist with Dragons.

 

[y04coopa]

Well creatures like Krakens and Turtles although would be cool are not really on the same level as dragons. For starters Krakens and turtles would be primarily water based creatures (this is bad i have always wanted a large sea beast that attacks the player out in the blue), so that right there is a major fault because you'd have to spend ages swimming pointless around the ocean waiting for a kraken attack because you couldn't have them mauling every major beach.

A dragon would be much easier to manage because it can fly and it can walk on land. so it's much easy to encounter and program it's combat AI. Not only that dragons are a major figure in the fantasy universes in general, not just getting into the TES lore.

Finally i don't age that dragons are the major selling point. Although yes they are a large part of the story and will probably drive a large amount of the main quest, considering the big bad guy of the picture a dragon that will eat the world. But there's lots of other new features. massive graphic revamp, general gameplay, Inventory, skill system, professions, dual wielding, fancy kills yanda yanda yanda.... and lets not forget that the country is in civil war and i think that will be a large part of the main quest as well. Unless that's a separate side quest guild.

 

[The Abhorrent]

It depends on the context.

The "mean monster with only animalistic intellect" type of dragon is a little old and boring.
There's not really a lot else to them, when they've been simplified to that state.

Smart dragons never get old (actually, smart villains in general don't have this issue), but the problem there is probably that it means there's more to write. Oddly enough, Tolkien's dragons were of this variety. So the overall issue is a matter of simplification with time & imitation; more or less that it was allowed to become a cliche.

Dragons aren't overdone nor boring... provided you do them properly.
Don't expect lazy writers to do anything properly.

 

[skywolfblue]

I like dragons quite a bit.

Gigantic mythical lizards who can fly, breath fire and eat your party for breakfast? Whats not to like?

Sentient/Talking Dragons add even more badassery on top of that.

 

[DanielBrown]

The new raid boss in LOTRO is a huuuuuge dragon.
No, I don't think they're overdone. Zombies, on the other hand...

 

[Thaluikhain]

A bit, yeah. Not as much as vampire, werewolves or zombies, though, but still too common for their own good.

 

[OManoghue]

Krakens would be much less interesting and free roaming. Considering they lack mobility on land.

Dragons might be common, but randomly generated free roaming dragons that can make decisions and come out of nowhere are new.

 

[lovest harding]

In games? Not at all. To be honest, I can't think of the last game I saw that had touted dragons as a feature. Not even Dragon Age (for a game with dragon in the name, they really didn't try to blow me over with dragon related stuff).
Honestly, there aren't many games that really use dragons (especially as anything other than another set piece dragon enemy).

 

[manaman]

The supremely awesome tattoo on my right arm argues otherwise.

Yes there is a dragon there, It's actually quite the large tattoo.

 

[distortedreality]

I think zombies are way more overdone and boring. Come on, TV,Movies,Games and still coming

Came in to say exactly the same thing.

 

[RatheMcGrath]

I liked Dragons before they went mainstream. Smaug, baby, not this new crap.

 

[ExiledPaladin13]

A bit, yeah. Not as much as vampire, werewolves or zombies, though, but still too common for their own good.

I'm pretty sure there are going to be vampires, werewolves and zombies in skyrim so kudos to bethesda!

OT: I like the dragons being presented in Skyrim. Most fantasy games would have referenced a dragon or two and it may get old for some people, but then again we've (or at least I've) never fought a dragon in an immersive first person view with two blades and a vast array of shouts.

 

[Saltyk]

Dragons are awesome. I like dragons. Yeah, I'm kinda tired right now, so I'll leave it at that.

As for Krakens, I think that could be done and be pretty cool, but the game would need to take place largely in and around a body of water. Think a game where you can sail a ship, swim, and explore islands and beaches. In this situation, Krakens could be a major threat. And if done where they were free roaming, they could be even more threatening than a dragon. You might see a dragon flying over head and avoid it, but if the kraken beneath your boat decides he wants your rum reserves for his own, there's not much you could do and you wouldn't see it coming til it attacked.

 

[Adultism]

How about PVP against yahtzee and all he does is yell at you about how you only play shit games.

 

[Joccaren]

I think dragons are the best type of Awesomely powerful fantasy creature. They hoard treasure, they are able to fly anywhere - so you can run into them anywhere - they are often old and wise, they are very powerful, and they breath fire (Or occasionally another element the devs thought would be cooler).
Plus, tell me one game that you can fight dragons in the same way that you can in Skyrim.