Duke Nukem Forever might be a decent purchase for some at $20

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GigaHz

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TL;DR - DNF is not too bad of an experience for $20 if you have an appreciation for old school shooters or if you are genuinely curious about finding out if this game is as terrible as many make it out to be.

Just when you thought the talk of Duke Nukem Forever has died for good, along comes a jerk like me to get you all riled up again. But before you fling your pitchforks in my general direction or accuse me of working for Gearbox's PR department (I don't), allow me to explain myself.

I am like the majority of you. I knew that when DNF finally released, it was going to be a major let down for anyone with even the slightest emotional investment. When it was received to mostly average and negative reviews, plus the overly negative reception from the gaming community, I knew it wasn't going to be worth a purchase at full price.

But, for whatever reason, I still wanted to try the game for myself. This is after ingesting every negative opinion, critique, or nitpick.

Why?

Could be curiosity, could be the fact that I enjoy camp, or could be that I like old school FPS games. So I waited for the price to drop to give it a fair assessment. When I saw it for $20 on steam, I purchased it almost immediately. My overall thoughts: Well worth $20 if you have a realistic sense of what you're getting into.

I have been playing FPS games since Wolfenstein 3d. I've played DOOM and 'DOOM clones'. I've bought and enjoyed Duke 3d and even played some of the terrible spin offs. Hell, I've even played the original Duke Nukem and Duke Nukem 2. I can say with confidence that DNF belongs with the rest of them.

Yet, like many things, Duke isn't very relevant in today's gaming world. What's worse is the game was doomed to failure long before it's release. It wasn't going to win any new fans and it was likely to alienate old ones. I came into this with the expectation that I was going to play a train wreck.

But, the strangest thing happened. I was actually enjoying myself.

Yeah, the graphics are heavily dated and inconsistent, the AI is laughably bad, and the story is garbage. Despite all that, the game is not terrible. The gameplay is varied enough to be somewhat interesting, the levels are long, some of the weapons are a joy to use, and the game offers a fair challenge on hard mode. There are some segments that drag and a few elements that are outright broken and unpolished, but I wouldn't call any of these things 'game breaking'.

Had this game released 10 years ago, it would have probably been regarded as one of the better shooters out there. So that's how I see it: a gaming time capsule of a title that should have never been released. Was it worth $60 when it released? No. But for $20, it's going to have an appeal for some.

So if you have ever been curious about DNF for whatever reason and have an appreciation for old school shooters, you might want to check it out for yourself. Let's Plays don't do this game justice.

Lastly, if you do have a choice, get it on PC or Mac. Apparently the loading times are much quicker among other percs.
 

yuval152

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It's not even worth 10$,you can disagree but it's the truth.

*ragely throws pitchforks*
 

GigaHz

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yuval152 said:
It's not even worth 10$,you can disagree but it's the truth.

*ragely throws pitchforks*
Well, there goes my brain.

There are a surplus of negative opinions. This was an attempt to level the playing field for those who were curious about experiencing the game for themselves but were too hesitant to purchase.

If you dislike the game, that's perfectly fine. I'm not trying to win you over.
 

InsanelyZanter

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For the same price, you could buy Fallout 3 or Mass effect 2. Even at that price range, there is better places to put your money. This seems like a game to get next generation out of the bargain bin.
 

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GigaHz said:
yuval152 said:
It's not even worth 10$,you can disagree but it's the truth.

*ragely throws pitchforks*
Well, there goes my brain.

There are a surplus of negative opinions. This was an attempt to level the playing field for those who were curious about experiencing the game for themselves but were too hesitant to purchase.

If you dislike the game, that's perfectly fine. I'm not trying to win you over.
I saw the game and thought it was cool and didn't understand the hate for it but after i bought the game i put it in the corner so he could think about what he had done.

And i'm not over exatrguating or however you spell it:

The plot is horrible
The weapons are horrible
the grahpics are "meh"
the aim delay is annyoing as hell
the multiplayer is unbalanced
I could only find 5 server on the games broswer with only 3-4 people
the bosses suck
his quotes are so fucking repetive.

Valdsator said:
yuval152 said:
It's not even worth 10$,you can disagree but it's the truth.
Quit stating your opinion like it's a fact. I bought it for 80$ (The Balls of Steel Edition), and besides it being shorter than I would have liked, it was worth it. The game is not perfect, but I really enjoyed it after waiting several years for it to be finished, and I've played through it about 3 times, once on the hardest difficulty. The multiplayer isn't all that bad either, but not too many people play anymore, as expected. In my opinion, it's easily worth 20$.

I just wish 3D Realms were the ones to finish it. Gearbox screwed up some things, like the humor in certain parts.
I had to pay 85$ for the normal edition i'm pretty sure that you can tell that i'm dissapointed.

GigaHz said:
yuval152 said:
I saw the game and thought it was cool and didn't understand the hate for it but after i bought the game i put it in the corner so he could think about what he had done.

And i'm not over exatrguating or however you spell it:

The plot is horrible
The weapons is horrible
the grahpics are "meh"
the aim delay is annyoing as hell
multiplayer is unbalanced
I could only find five server on the games broswer with only 3-4 people
the bosses suck
and this game is so repetive.
See, maybe that's it right there.

I went into this game thinking it might be terrible so my expectations were pretty low to begin with. But a lot of what you said, I bring up as well:

The plot is horrible - I agree
The weapons are horrible - I said that some of the weapons were fun to use. Others are pretty terrible.
the graphics are "meh" - I agree
the aim delay is annoying as hell - probably a console thing. I never experienced this myself.
mulitplayer is unbalanced, server - I didn't buy the game for the multiplayer
The bosses suck - I kind of like what they tried to do with the intro boss and the ***** Queen for my own reasons but for the rest, I also agree.
Repetition - Some segments do drag on but they made attempts to break up the monotony. I guess this depends on the speed in which you play the game. I actually found the environments and set pieces to be varied enough to hold my interest.

So we do agree for the most part. The difference is our mentality beforehand which affected our enjoyment of it after the fact.


[didnt mean to write fanboy but i'm too lazy to edit it]
 

Valdsator

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yuval152 said:
It's not even worth 10$,you can disagree but it's the truth.
Quit stating your opinion like it's a fact. I bought it for 80$ (The Balls of Steel Edition), and besides it being shorter than I would have liked, it was worth it. The game is not perfect, but I really enjoyed it after waiting several years for it to be finished, and I've played through it about 3 times, once on the hardest difficulty. The multiplayer isn't all that bad either, but not too many people play anymore, as expected. In my opinion, it's easily worth 20$.

I just wish 3D Realms were the ones to finish it. Gearbox screwed up some things, like the humor in certain parts.
 

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GigaHz said:
There are a surplus of negative opinions. This was an attempt to level the playing field
Well, there are a surplus of negative opinions about being on fire. Not sure if we should devote equal time to listening to those few who say it's a good idea.

Seriously, though, my main problem with this is that it's too late. DNF was totally reliant on the massive crash of publicity it created for its initial release. Positive reviews at the time might have helped it, but people have stopped caring about him finally coming back because he eventually finally did come back.
 

GigaHz

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yuval152 said:
I saw the game and thought it was cool and didn't understand the hate for it but after i bought the game i put it in the corner so he could think about what he had done.

And i'm not over exatrguating or however you spell it:

The plot is horrible
The weapons is horrible
the grahpics are "meh"
the aim delay is annyoing as hell
multiplayer is unbalanced
I could only find five server on the games broswer with only 3-4 people
the bosses suck
and this game is so repetive.
See, maybe that's it right there.

I went into this game thinking it might be terrible so my expectations were pretty low to begin with. But a lot of what you said, I bring up as well:

The plot is horrible - I agree
The weapons are horrible - I said that some of the weapons were fun to use. Others are pretty terrible.
the graphics are "meh" - I agree
the aim delay is annoying as hell - probably a console thing. I never experienced this myself.
mulitplayer is unbalanced, server - I didn't buy the game for the multiplayer
The bosses suck - I kind of like what they tried to do with the intro boss and the ***** Queen for my own reasons but for the rest, I also agree.
Repetition - Some segments do drag on but they made attempts to break up the monotony. I guess this depends on the speed in which you play the game. I actually found the environments and set pieces to be varied enough to hold my interest.

So we do agree for the most part. The difference is our mentality beforehand which affected our enjoyment of it after the fact.
 

GigaHz

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thaluikhain said:
Well, there are a surplus of negative opinions about being on fire. Not sure if we should devote equal time to listening to those few who say it's a good idea.

Seriously, though, my main problem with this is that it's too late. DNF was totally reliant on the massive crash of publicity it created for its initial release. Positive reviews at the time might have helped it, but people have stopped caring about him finally coming back because he eventually finally did come back.
I'm not trying to save the game though. The damage has been done. Thought I'm a bit upset that my argument is akin to taking pleasure from being set on fire.

I'm trying to pique the interest of fans of old school FPS games that would normally dismiss this as garbage. I'm sure there are people on this forum who would appreciate this game for it's positive merits as I sometimes read posts from fans of DOOM, Quake, and other old school FPS games. This isn't a brigade to convert the masses.
 

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has it finally hit $20 on consoles? That was quick if so...I saw on Amazon that the Balls of Steel version on PC is down to $30 but the console version is still high. I plan on grabbing Duke at $20. I tried my bro-in-law's PS3 copy for a while but want to wait until I have my own before I beat it.
 

Zhukov

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I suppose it might be worth $20 to some people. Emphasis on "some".

Personally, I don't know why anyone would pay any money at all for an actively unpleasant experience.
"Would you care for a slap in the face for sixty dollars?"
"What...? No!"
"Okay then, how about I lower the price? A slap in the face, now just twenty dollars!"
"Uh... still no."
 

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No, DNF isn't even worth 20 dollars. For half that price, you can get Painkiller: Black Edition. For 10 dollars more, you can get Hard Reset. For twice the price of DNF, you can get the Serious Sam HD collection. All of these are far superior FPSs to Duke Nukem.
 

Svenparty

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Int the landfill along with the E.T game. It was hardly even decent in a medium not known for it's masterpieces.
 

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Look, i've been one to engage in the hyperbole from time to time it's true.

But I want you to know that I speak with all sincerity, when I say that having played Duke Nukem from launch, that - no. No it is not.