Erotism/nudity in video games.

[krazykidd]

So my question this morning is why do people have a problem with Erotism and or nudity in video games?

When you look at any other type of art forms (yes i believe video games is art but that isn't the issue i want to talk about in this thread ) like drawing/paintings , music , litterature , theater/drama/acting ,etc... there is nudity/ erotism in all of them. There are tons of nude/ sexual theme painting , there are erotic books , nudity in theater/television , and sexual theme in every type of music ( Pop , hip-hop , rock , metal , hell death metal talk about rape all the time ) . But why in video games its looked down upon ? I know some people will say , "well i don't want to see video games characters having sex or naked ewww " well then don'T buy it stick with games rated Everyone to Teen OR close your eyes ( lol ? ) . If you don't like erotic books , then you will jsut not buy/read those books.

So what do you think about this? What is the problem with erotism/nudity in video games?


Your turn.

 

[N1ceDreamz]

The probelm with nudity in video games is that the media tends to look at video games as mere childrens playthings, not art in the way movies and books can be art.
So when any from of nudity shows up in a video game fox news and the like and the parents get up in arms about it lest little timmy realises girls don't have pee-pees.

 

[manythings]

The probelm with nudity in video games is that the media tends to look at video games as mere childrens playthings, not art in the way movies and books can be art.
So when any from of nudity shows up in a video game fox news and the like and the parents get up in arms about it lest little timmy realises girls don't have pee-pees.

Pretty much this. People are obsessed with their own vision of things and will have shit fits if anyone tries to show that things are different. It's all the worse since the average age of gamers is 37 FFS. Males aged 5-17 are among the smallest of the demographics that actively take part in gaming culture.

 

[Not-here-anymore]

The probelm with nudity in video games is that the media tends to look at video games as mere childrens playthings, not art in the way movies and books can be art.
So when any from of nudity shows up in a video game fox news and the like and the parents get up in arms about it lest little timmy realises girls don't have pee-pees.

Essentially, this. Until the media comes to the conclusion that video games aren't just for kids (i.e until the media is full of those who grew up playing video games themselves), they're still gonna be seen as children's toys.

Also, as we all know, the industry makes no effort whatsoever to inform consumers as to the content of what they're buying and its age-appropriate-ness. They just want to force the sex and the violence upon the kids as early as possible. Won't someone please think of the children?! [/sarcasm]

 

[Argonian alchemist]

BOOBS!-... Oh wait what? A serious thread... by god that's totally absurd...

Quick, somebody round up the village people (no, not the singers...) and I'll fetch us the torches, this man shall bur- Wait? you are serious aren't you?

Well, I personally think the only reason people have a problem with nudity is because their uncomfortable with it? Perhaps they are young, old enough to play the game with all it's content but young enough to still go "eh, what? where'd that come from... eh awkward". At least that's what I think.

Now then... I'm off to hunt leprechauns whilst whistling the tune to "happy days", who is with me!?

 

[Harlief]

It's really badly done, especially in the PC games I've seen nudity.
The two cases that stick in my mind were FarCry and The Saboteur.
The nudity in FarCry felt out of place with the rest of the game and a wee bit desperate.
The Saboteur, god that game was funny! The nudity in that game did fit, but the dancers later in the game looked like mannequins; the breasts looked like fake novelty breasts because they didn't move independent from the torso of the models (I realise how clinical that sounds).

If games are going to do nudity/eroticism in games, it needs to be done well.

Oh yeah, and Vampire Bloodlines: The Masquerade... that game did it so right. (Does the Nosferatu clothing count as eroticism? Let that image sink in...)

 

[Biodeamon]

because people are still mindless sissies and still are just people being driven to subconsiously think nudism is evil due to years of religious conditioning. i ignore it.

 

[iseko]

Parents don't want to raise their kids anymore. Put them in front of a pc/tv/console and be done with it. But they want their kids to learn morale and virtue. So they don't want nudity or violence...

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. For example: dragon age 1. They need a baby so they have sex at the end. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...

In duke nukem it kinda adds to the story in the sense that duke nukem is a pill popping, girl humping psychopath with a lust for alien blood and cheesy one liners. But duke nukem isn't really a game I would let my 12 year old play.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Generally, when people put nudity into something, it's not exactly done with tact or finesse. Sticking boobs on for the sake of having boobs is what people expect nudity to be, which tends to put them off (or at least make them feel obliged to pretend they feel that way).

People are used to cringing when they see it, I guess.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I liked how Witcher 2 did it:
"Yeah, she's topless. You gotta problem with that?"

And besides the (male) protagonist is shirtless for half of the prologue too; so YAY for polish, gender neutrality.......

EDIT:

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...[bb]

By that logic, you are claiming that NOONE got their Shepard laid in ME2, because they cut out the nudity (Or Dragon Age 2, for that matter). I can personally tell you, that that is not true. Mass Effect is an RPG. Players did the relationship thing, if they were roleplaying. NOT for boobs.

 

[Drizzitdude]

The probelm with nudity in video games is that the media tends to look at video games as mere childrens playthings, not art in the way movies and books can be art.
So when any from of nudity shows up in a video game fox news and the like and the parents get up in arms about it lest little timmy realises girls don't have pee-pees.

I agree. and honestly it isnt a problem if the parent is I don't know RESPONSIBLE and doesn't get the game they find to be a problem or profane. They blame the games for existing and its annoying as hell

 

[Maxtro]

Parents don't want to raise their kids anymore. Put them in front of a pc/tv/console and be done with it. But they want their kids to learn morale and virtue. So they don't want nudity or violence...

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. For example: dragon age 1. They need a baby so they have sex at the end. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...

In duke nukem it kinda adds to the story in the sense that duke nukem is a pill popping, girl humping psychopath with a lust for alien blood and cheesy one liners. But duke nukem isn't really a game I would let my 12 year old play.

And Dragon Age is?

Dragon Age is rated M for Mature. It's the equivalent of an R rated movie. Rated R movies have no issue showing sex or nudity.

Heck after watching Game of Thrones, I fully expect Dragon Age 3 to have nudity and characters get naked for sex. It's not a game for kids. Anybody who lets their child play it and gets offended because there is nudity is an idiot. Never mind the blood and gore, that's OK...

 

[iseko]

Parents don't want to raise their kids anymore. Put them in front of a pc/tv/console and be done with it. But they want their kids to learn morale and virtue. So they don't want nudity or violence...

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. For example: dragon age 1. They need a baby so they have sex at the end. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...

In duke nukem it kinda adds to the story in the sense that duke nukem is a pill popping, girl humping psychopath with a lust for alien blood and cheesy one liners. But duke nukem isn't really a game I would let my 12 year old play.

And Dragon Age is?

Dragon Age is rated M for Mature. It's the equivalent of an R rated movie. Rated R movies have no issue showing sex or nudity.

Heck after watching Game of Thrones, I fully expect Dragon Age 3 to have nudity and characters get naked for sex. It's not a game for kids. Anybody who lets their child play it and gets offended because there is nudity is an idiot. Never mind the blood and gore, that's OK...

Yea I would let my 12-13 year old kid play dragon age. You can't tell me that the 'sex' scene (2 seconds of bare ass is not that offensive to me...) in dragon age is the same as the nudity in duke nukem. I would also let my 12 year old kid see michelangelo's david. Sex and nudity is all about context for me. That's all I'm saying.

And nowadays the looney tunes are rated R because buggs bunny and daffy duck run around without pants. They are pushing this rated R crap too far.

 

[iseko]

I liked how Witcher 2 did it:
"Yeah, she's topless. You gotta problem with that?"

And besides the (male) protagonist is shirtless for half of the prologue too; so YAY for polish, gender neutrality.......

EDIT:

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...[bb]

By that logic, you are claiming that NOONE got their Shepard laid in ME2, because they cut out the nudity (Or Dragon Age 2, for that matter). I can personally tell you, that that is not true. Mass Effect is an RPG. Players did the relationship thing, if they were roleplaying. NOT for boobs.

I honestly believe you when you say that you do it for the role playing. I wouldn't believe you if you were a 12 year old kid with a hormone imbalance.

 

[AzureRaven]

I don't mind it, as long as it doesn't treat it like it's a big deal. My problem is if a game uses it in a really immature way. It just makes me sigh then. But stuff like ME or Dragon Age...that's no big deal.

 

[ZeroMachine]

I realize what you mean, but "Erotism" just sounds disgusting

For what I think it's disgusting?

"For a quality experience, the girls have to be real."
-Jersey Morelli, who I can almost guarantee no one on this site knows.

I hate fake women, whether we're talking "plastics" in real life, or rendered in games. I find it supremely unattractive. And I'm not a fan of being reminded of something I AM attracted to by seeing something I'm NOT attracted to. Get my point?

With that said, I would actually never tell developers to stop, because I fully realize video games SHOULD tackle mature content. But they should tackle it maturely. They aren't too good at that most of the time...

 

[sockypants]

If nudity and other sexual themes were anywhere near being accepted in the medium, it was sent very far back by the whole bullshit Fox News/Mass Effect thing. Because video games are perceived as being for children, conservative parent groups shit bricks when anything remotely related to sexuality is in a game, cause it will "demoralise our youth." Until games are treated as a suitable medium for mature storytelling, people will continue to have a problem.

It would be nice for video games to be treated like an adult medium, however games need to act like an adult medium as well. Chucking in a pair of tits and a tonne of blood in an attempt to make a game "dark and gritty" isn't maturity, and until games grow up, they're going to be treated as such. Games such as L.A. Noire and Heavy Rain are evidence that mature storytelling can exist in the medium, and are a big step in the right direction. More please!

 

[ZeroMachine]

Parents don't want to raise their kids anymore. Put them in front of a pc/tv/console and be done with it. But they want their kids to learn morale and virtue. So they don't want nudity or violence...

Personally I don't think nudity should just be in any game. Only if it adds to the story. For example: dragon age 1. They need a baby so they have sex at the end. In mass effect however it doesn't really add to the story. You can bring up the arguement that having a relationship adds to your character development. But lets be serious. 99% of the gamers just want to see boobs...

In duke nukem it kinda adds to the story in the sense that duke nukem is a pill popping, girl humping psychopath with a lust for alien blood and cheesy one liners. But duke nukem isn't really a game I would let my 12 year old play.

And Dragon Age is?

Dragon Age is rated M for Mature. It's the equivalent of an R rated movie. Rated R movies have no issue showing sex or nudity.

Heck after watching Game of Thrones, I fully expect Dragon Age 3 to have nudity and characters get naked for sex. It's not a game for kids. Anybody who lets their child play it and gets offended because there is nudity is an idiot. Never mind the blood and gore, that's OK...

Yea I would let my 12-13 year old kid play dragon age. You can't tell me that the 'sex' scene (2 seconds of bare ass is not that offensive to me...) in dragon age is the same as the nudity in duke nukem. I would also let my 12 year old kid see michelangelo's david. Sex and nudity is all about context for me. That's all I'm saying.

And nowadays the looney tunes are rated R because buggs bunny and daffy duck run around without pants. They are pushing this rated R crap too far.

I'm sorry, but god damn source that right now. I don't believe that for a moment, so either clarify that you're just trying to make a sarcastic point, or source it, because bullshit.

Captcha: manilla makes life easy

THAT'S NOT FUNNY, THAT'S HOW MY PARENTS DIED

 

[Watchmacallit]

I'm fine with the nudity etc as long as its done tastefully...Looking at you Duke Nukem >_>

Mass Effect never should of gotten the heat it did.

The only problem I ever have is my TV and PC are in public areas of the house....So that's always an awkward situation.