Escapist Expo: Fanboyism

[Team Hollywood]

Fanboyism

Fanboys. We all know one, and some of us may even be one. Like it or not, ?fanboyism? is a massive force in nearly all social circles, either online or as part of your local gaming group. But what?s the impact the phenomenon really has on our culture? Escape to the Movies host Bob Chipman and Jimquistion star Jim Sterling tackle the issues alongside Dr. Mark Kline, and Paul Saunders from LRR.

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[bdcjacko]

OMG, this was hilarious in person.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Jesus, Escapist, you're killing me with all these hour long videos.

I have other thing to do, you know - Like watching other videos.

 

[GAunderrated]

Jesus, Escapist, you're killing me with all these hour long videos.

I have other thing to do, you know - Like watching other videos.

Problem is they are so good and entertaining.

 

[2clueless]

Really hope this was popular enough to do again. I will attend. These have been great.

And geeze, Susan, she is just so.. expressive. Need more female writers and editors!

captcha: Move Over

 

[furai47]

I really enjoyed this one, probably more so than the other ones.
Can I ask what Yahtzee said at the beginning, about being upset over something changing in some way, I believe the word started with inf- or something like that?

 

[Danceofmasks]

"Like perhaps, Nintendo"
Too true, seeing as Bob can be quoted to have said "video games come from Japan" which is clearly not true if you played games on a computer, or an atari, etc.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Jesus, Escapist, you're killing me with all these hour long videos.

I have other thing to do, you know - Like watching other videos.

Problem is they are so good and entertaining.

I'm so glad they put these up, because I couldn't go. I just hope that have something on Gavs concert.

 

[Ophiuchus]

Can I ask what Yahtzee said at the beginning, about being upset over something changing in some way, I believe the word started with inf- or something like that?

Infinitesimal. A lovely way of saying 'really tiny' or, I guess in this case, 'insignificant'.

So, that thing Yahtzee and Dr Mark were talking about, but couldn't remember what it was called? 'Effort justification'. It's to do with cognitive dissonance; the more you suffer to get something, the more you're forced to reason that you must've *really* wanted that thing. Which is why group initiation and hazing is a thing. (Heeeey, and they said the stuff I learned at university would never come in useful! Though, to be fair, I only remember because one of our coursework assignments was a 2500-word essay on exactly this topic.)

(EDIT: Okay, I really need to stop the whole 'pause video to make comments as I go' thing, turns out they revisited this at the end and said pretty much all of that. Bah.)

Oh, and I'm completely with Yahtzee on the Red Dwarf thing. Everything after series 6 was so bloody awful that I generally don't even acknowledge its existence, but here I am all like "Red Dwarf series 10? OMG YES BRING IT ON!". I'm not even trying to fool myself - the chance of it being any good is very slim - but I won't miss it for anything.

 

[Kizi]

I knew they'd bring ponies up. I just knew it.

For me, like they said on the panel, a fanboy is basically someone who constantly goes out of their way to bash those who disagree with them. I actually think the term 'fanboy' is less describing a person that likes the thing in question and rather describing a person who's constantly shitting on those who don't, (for example, Battlefield fans who go on CoD videos to talk crap about it and vice versa) because you can be an obsessed fan while not being intrusive and annoying.

 

[T_ConX]

I did the Fanboy thing when I was a kid with my SNES/N64/PS2. I remember the PS2/XB/GC era the best, mostly because it's when the internet started getting big and OH GOD MESSAGE BOARDS. I got IP banned from GameFAQs for losing five accounts in a month to flame wars back in 2000.

Looking back, it wasn't about that one system was definitively better than the other. No matter which console you bought at the start of that generation, you had four to five years of great games and great gaming memories (unless you bought a Dreamcast).

But it didn't look like that in 2002. You just didn't want good games on your console. You wanted EXCLUSIVES. If it wasn't exclusive, you wanted the BETTER version to be on you console. One conversion I had with a friend in school...

XBox owning friend: GTA III is going to be even better on XBox.
PS2 owning me: Sony and Rockstar sighed an exclusivity agreement. GTA isn't coming to XBox for 3 years.
XBox owning friend: Oh... well, GTA III wasn't very good anyway.

There you have it. Games on my console are better. Games not on my console aren't. I remember rationalizing that KOTOR was a shitty game because it was an XBox exclusive.

KOTOR. KOTOR!

Why the hell did this happen? Because your parents would only ever buy you one console per generation and ONLY if your grades were good. You were stuck with that console for five years and GOD HELP YOU if you picked the wrong one. Of course you picked the right one. It's the one that has ALL THE BESTEST GAMES. You have Grand Theft Auto III, Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2. What do they have? Halo? More like GAYLO!

Part of it still lives with me today. Sure, I have all three current-gen consoles, but now it's my $1200 gaming PC that I'm in love with. When you've got one of those, there is NO EXCUSE for playing the console version of anything. Pitiful, uncultured, console peasants...

If I were to mention the letters 'MLP'.

I love how you can see Dr. Mark Kline quietly ask MovieBob what 'MLP' means, and he goes 'OH!' when he tells him.

 

[Varis]

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Fanboyism

Fanboys. We all know one, and some of us may even be one. Like it or not, ?fanboyism? is a massive force in nearly all social circles, either online or as part of your local gaming group. But what?s the impact the phenomenon really has on our culture? Escape to the Movies host Bob Chipman and Jimquistion star Jim Sterling tackle the issues alongside Dr. Mark Kline, and Paul Saunders from LRR.

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Yahtzee's name wasn't mentioned in the OP. Doesn't really matter, but it misled me into believing that something had happened to the man. Just thought that you (moderators) should know in case you find this a thing worth fixing!

 

[Andy Shandy]

Oh, I knew Sonic was going to come up in the worst fanboyism question and I totally agree. Although I disagree with Bob's comment about it being terrible for years now. There have definitely been some god-awful titles, but recently (since about Colours) the games have been really good.

Also, so glad you guys put these up. Definitely regretting being x miles away all the way here in Scotland. It needs to come to the UK! =P (eventually of course) You can call it the Escapist Expo Export. It'll be our own little E3!

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I do believe in one of the comments of the other videos perhaps saying that they had x amounts of videos from the panel still to put up, including one of Gav's concert.

 

[ECasThat]

Are We going to get all the panels from day 2 too? please? pretty please?

 

[Eric the Orange]

Religious extremists, Pedophilia, and My Little Pony. These topics are stricken from the record.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

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I do believe in one of the comments of the other videos perhaps saying that they had x amounts of videos from the panel still to put up, including one of Gav's concert.

Thanks for the info, I want to watch all of each of these videos, but I don't have enough time in the day >_<

By the way, your icon is mesmerizing...

 

[bdcjacko]

One of the fan questions was some sort of long rambling about can the fandom of something be so toxic it can me it better or ruin it. He then refused to name the example he was clearly think of, but makes some cryptic remarks about 4chan. Can someone tell me what the hell he was talking about?

 

[notmyday2009]

I can only imagine that he was talking about the brony fandom. Since I don't know any other fandom that would be banned in 4chan and be consider poisonous to the very thing they love.

One of the fan questions was some sort of long rambling about can the fandom of something be so toxic it can me it better or ruin it. He then refused to name the example he was clearly think of, but makes some cryptic remarks about 4chan. Can someone tell me what the hell he was talking about?

 

[lithiumvocals]

Hey it's the Two Best Friends theme song! Right, guys?

Guys?