Escapist Publisher Says Banning Games Is Slippery Slope

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Escapist Publisher Says Banning Games Is Slippery Slope



If we ban game sales to minors simply because videogames are interactive, then bans of TV shows like American Idol or websites like Wikipedia can follow.

The First Amendment protects all forms of media from censorship based on content, CEO and Publisher of The Escapist, Alexander Macris, said in an op-ed piece printed in Raleigh's News Observer [http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/05/720477/the-first-amendment-embraces-video.html#storylink=misearch]. The California state law that will be under review of the Supreme Court on November 2 has been struck down by all previous courts because the proof that playing violent videogames causes violent behavior was not compelling enough for the judges. But Macris argues that beyond the violence question, subjecting videogames to a different standard than other media is dangerous.

"The 9th Circuit [Court of Appeals] rejected the state's attempts to link games and real-world violence because the argument was 'based on correlation, not evidence of causation' and because expert conclusions were drawn using 'significant, admitted flaws in methodology,'" Macris writes. "There is no consensus of scientific evidence showing that games are harmful to children."

Macris points out that "interactivity" is everywhere, which is a core value of the The Escapist [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/publishers-note/6755-Publishers-Note-Play-Life-and-Live-Games]. To regulate interactive media more stringently than passive entertainment is wrong, as Macris writes, "Videogames are merely the spearhead of an interactive revolution that is transforming our world. Interactivity is coming to us everywhere - on the websites that we visit, the television we watch, even the radio stations we listen to. American Idol is interactive content. So is the online encyclopedia Wikipedia."

If the Supreme Court upholds the California law, then the precedent is set to limit the sale of all interactive media. "The same reasoning that lets a state regulate a violent video game would also give the government power to control who can access Wikipedia or a TV show that invites its audience to vote online," Macris writes.

"Allowing regulation for interactive media will invite censorship into our lives."

And that is a scary thought.

Source: News Observer [http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/05/720477/the-first-amendment-embraces-video.html#storylink=misearch]

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Tartarga

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I don't think I would mind if American Idol got banned. It would slow the creation of more crappy pop stars.
 

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bleachigo10 said:
I don't think I would mind if American Idol got banned. It would slow the creation of more crappy pop stars.
But then what would keep the sheep entertained?

*edits and deletes a bit* Nevermind, I didn't read it properly
 

mad825

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so let me get this straight, a CEO of The Escapist goes all the way to the News Observer to talk about games and yet he has a whole website dedicated to games and game news.

does he really hate The Escapist that much? :(
 

Jack and Calumon

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This is how a CEO SHOULD act. Making sense and showing points we wouldn't have thought of. That and not making their entire fanbase hate them, which by the way, we don't hate you.

There isn't a thread that goes by without the opportunity to suggestively poke fun at Kotick.

Calumon: Why isn't American Idol Banned? X factor makes my tummy feel funny.
 

Jared

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If it happens I do worry about the future of free speech
 

Kapol

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I agree on that it feels a bit odd reading about the CEO of this site talking to a newspaper about something that is covered quite often on this site, but... oh well. It's an interesting argument, and I hope that the supreme court takes those facts into mind when they see the case, though my pessimistic side says they won't seeings how I bet the most information they get about games is from TV.
 
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As much as I would love to see American Idol banned, I'd like to see it banned on its own merits of being crap rather then simply being interactive.
 

Pipotchi

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Don't we already have a law banning the sale of 18 rated games to minors in the UK? or is that only a guideline as well?
 

Dogstile

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Pipotchi said:
Don't we already have a law banning the sale of 18 rated games to minors in the UK? or is that only a guideline as well?
Is a law in the UK. Apparently the USA version of the law would be worse than the law over here though.
 

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Pipotchi said:
Don't we already have a law banning the sale of 18 rated games to minors in the UK? or is that only a guideline as well?
No, that's legally enforced by a government rating (soon to be an EU enforced one with PEGI). Apparently in America, doing such a thing would cause the universe to implode.

[small]There's a very minute difference between their thing of making it illegal and ours, and I really haven't got a fucking clue what it is, because every time someone explains it always ends up with games dropping off the face of the Earth because Timmy has to get his mum to buy CoD for him.[/small]
 

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I have to say: I hate this fear-mongering. I know very well the implications of banning on media, but this whole "...then it makes way to a darker future with possible banning on all media, so be scared of the consequences, be scared" is just off-putting.

You're using the same tactics as the guys claiming that games corrupt the mind, therefor our children and therefor our future. It's just fear-mongering.

If you want me to get involved in this debate then just appeal to my logic by talking about how little sense it makes to ban a product. I understand our rights here. Don't try to appeal to my fear of the future, that's just pathetic.
 

Cousin_IT

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With all these slippery slopes it's a wonder anyone is able to stand on flat ground at all!
 

unacomn

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In democratic US of A, Wikipedia edits YOU!
A coupe of nutjobs in my country's government were spinning around the idea of censoring forums and message boards, to filter out "bad language". Even with my fake as they come democracy, it got shot down.
Something like this shouldn't happen in your nation.
 

ReverendJ

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I'm somewhat confused by this. There are laws in place restricting sales of certain media to minors, but when it comes to video games people flip out. I've got a kid, and am personally glad that he can't, say, go to an R-rated movie without me there to vet it. Not all parents are responsible enough to pay attention to what their kids are up to, and not all kids can be monitored 24/7.

Causal links between video game violence and real violence? None proven. However, if little Jimmy is growing up a good little sociopath, maybe GTA isn't the best playtime activity.