Ever had a game (or a major portion of a game) that you enjoyed more 2nd time through?

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Norrdicus

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Some of you are probably familiar with Fallout: New Vegas' DLC adventure Dead Money

Some of those who played it didn't probably like it all that much for verious reasons: the radios that set off your bomb collar, very few healing items, resilient enemies, the loot isn't that great, all your accumulated stuff is taken away at the beginning, many of the environments are dark and samey, traps everywhere, etc.

During my first playthrough, I felt largely neutral. Like many other Obsidian titles, it has its rage-inducing bits, and some positively magnificent bits.

Then cut to today, when I have System Shock 2 fresh in my memory, and I'm playing with my first mod installed, Project Nevada. Its most notable changes, imo, are the removal of HP increase in level scaling (both for you and enemies, so everyone's level 1 HP-wise) and making SPECIAL have far more affect on your actions. For example, It takes me god damn 10 seconds to grab my rocket launcher or reload it, because my Agility is 1. It has lost me plenty of battles.


I'm going through Dead Money again, and I absolutely adore it! Probably largely because I'm playing it like System Shock 2, like a horror fps-rpg hybrid. The fact that I now know the mechanics better also helps

The ghost people do not die simply from HP loss, so after a few shots to the head with a pistol, I go to their corpses and shoot/thwack a limb off, which can be a bit dangerous in a trap-filled, enemy-infested environment. I make hurried dashes through the red cloud, because there's often Stimpak and ammo caches hidden there. I check in every nook and cranny to see if I can even find a bag of chips. I pay special attention to the ground in case there's a trip wire of a grenade trap. Because my HP is forever locked at 200, the smallest mistake might prove fatal. And I love it!

tl;dr: Like I ask in the title of the thread, have you found yourself liking a game far more during your second playthrough? For me, Dead Money is one such experience
 

Exius Xavarus

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Dragon's Dogma. NG+ gave me he means to enjoy the game so much more. Especially with Hard Mode. I can mow down the normal mooks in my path, I can freely do quests without worrying about super level bandit leaders being a pain in the ass, I can travel the land quicker. I enjoyed it thoroughly on the second run.

Dishonored is in that boat, too. Actually, once I'd started playing it, I played through it beginning to end four times before I touched another game. It's just that great.
 

shrekfan246

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Most of the Sonic games. Part of the fun is in randomly discovering new paths you didn't know were there your first time through.

Oh, and playing through the Mass Effect games again as an Adept instead of Soldier like my first play-through.
 

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Dead Space 2. I really liked when I first got it but I played through it again so I could jog me memory in the lead up to Dead Space 3 and it became one of my favourites. I honestly think now that Dead Space 2 actually works really well as a horror experience if you look at it in the right way.
 

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Norrdicus said:
Some of those who played it didn't probably like it all that much for verious reasons: the radios that set off your bomb collar, very few healing items, resilient enemies, the loot isn't that great, all your accumulated stuff is taken away at the beginning, many of the environments are dark and samey, traps everywhere, etc.
Dead Money infuriated me and made me vow I would never play through that DLC again. It was a distillation of everything wrong with Obsidian's attitude towards the Bethesda Fallout engine, which was to say, "let's use this game to make something else entirely since in our heart of hearts we don't really like this game to begin with."

They did numerous similar things in the base game: flooding it with useless distractions like ammo types/crafting, putting up invisible walls to channel your exploration, adding pointless companions etc. It all distracted from the core gameplay experience which FO3 was built upon. And, ultimately, Obsidian wasn't able to deliver on the core gameplay and left the product ridiculously bug-ridden because they spent so much of their energy trying to make it into something else.

Returning to the original question: I enjoyed Mass Effect 2 a lot on the second playthrough, especially after turning up the difficulty. Some of the combat sequences, such as one of the firefights in Miranda's second character mission, turn into methodical puzzles when you make them less easy.

Also, any game with a steep learning curve where the first playthrough is ridden with 'mistakes' and general muddling through. Think of any grand strategy game, for example.
 

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Bayonetta. Infinite Climax is just crazy hard and I love it (Man that sounds really weird outta context).

Take that Dark Souls:p

Just Cause 2 and RDR. I played both these games in a linear fashion and only focused on the story and ended up loathing them both. Second playthrough and I now call them some of the best games this generation has ever seen.
 

The_Lost_King

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Well I had the opposite in Dragon Age: Origins with the Fade. I mean it was decent the first time, but man it sucked subsequent playthroughs.

The times I have had more fun are usually the games with new game+. Bastion was even better the second time. It was fun to have more time to test cool weapon combos.

The other one was Mass Effect 1 ng+. It was fun to play through again with my shotgun skills at max on my Vanguard. Shotguns owned in that game.
 

The_Lost_King

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Well I had the opposite in Dragon Age: Origins with the Fade. I mean it was decent the first time, but man it sucked subsequent playthroughs.

The times I have had more fun are usually the games with new game+. Bastion was even better the second time. It was fun to have more time to test cool weapon combos.

The other one was Mass Effect 1 ng+. It was fun to play through again with my shotgun skills at max on my Vanguard. Shotguns owned in that game.
 

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I personally thought that Borderlands 2 NG+, aka True Vault Hunter Mode, was better than the first play-through. But for a game without a NG+ option I would say Max Payne 2 (that game is addicting, especially with Payne Effects 3).
 

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9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors. The more times you play it and make different choices, the more the story opens up, revealing more about the characters and deepening the overall narrative.
 

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Ignoring NG+ or games that are truly meant to be played over and over (what's your favorite Binding of Issac playthrough...)


Baldur's Gate II: I was several years older than the first time, and I turned the difficulty down to easy to skip some of the annoying bits of the game system. Made for a much more streamlined experience and let me focus on the story that much more.

KotOR II was also much better when I replayed it as a more mature person with more focus on the story and themes and less on "weeeee lightsabers!"
 

SadisticFire

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Um. Fallout 3 as I've gone through more then I count. I've gone through half life 2 a couple times after installing a few mods. Though I will say mostly Fallout 3, because of it's replay ability and it's high content. It's really quite interesting to find new things, when you thought you found it all. Wasn't as much of a fan of New Vegas though as the atmosphere was less doomy, more deserty, even though the environment seemed kinda similar.
I've been meaning to play Dead Rising 2 again, but can't get controller to work on the PC so havn't bothered.
 

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The mages tower in Dragonage origins, mostly because i downloaded the mod that lets me skip the fade
 

IronMit

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The bosses in Deus eX human revolution

I thought they were near impossible the first time because of my passive/stealthy augments.

However it was because I was only accustomed to playing the game steathily so when it came time to run and gun and use cover my mind just froze. There are many ways to approach each boss and they can be pretty fun
 

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Hitman Absolution was a great recent example of this for me.

I remember playing through the Chinatown level and being really annoyed about how linear it was. That feeling crept through for most of the game. Upon replaying it on a higher difficulty or in the contracts mode, I changed my mind quite a bit. I observed more and the game really opened up, that first Chinatown level is bursting at the seams with options that I had never realized.

It's making my current professional level playthrough a lot more intriguing.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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The original Witcher. It wasn't really all that interesting the first time. I didn't know how to appreciate that game. But as The Witcher 2 was about to be released and it looked awesome, I decided to replay The Witcher after more than a year since I first played it. Unbelievable game.
 

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Torment.
First time around, got stuck in the Mortuary for 2 hours, gave up, uninstalled.
2nd time around, got all the right mods, got Widescreen working, had the time of my life.
Goddamn gem that game is.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Pretty much any Black Isle/Obsidian Game is better on the second playthrough when you understand the subtext running through each game. KOTOR 2: Learning the implied truth about Kreia through the party interactions, the incredible Sith Tomb sequence, hell, even Peragus becomes more and more substantial the more you play it.
 

babinro

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Zelda Games.

Zelda games focus so heavily on puzzle solving that I get sidetracked and lose focus on story and gameplay.
The 2nd playthrough typically cuts the game time in half and is a lot more fun as a result.
The games pace doesn't slow to a crawl and I can just enjoy the experience from start to finish.
 

babinro

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Zelda Games.

Zelda games focus so heavily on puzzle solving that I get sidetracked and lose focus on story and gameplay.
The 2nd playthrough typically cuts the game time in half and is a lot more fun as a result.
The games pace doesn't slow to a crawl and I can just enjoy the experience from start to finish.