Extra Credits is Worth Saving

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kcarl2a

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I did not have the chance to log on to the Escapist over the past few days due to computer trouble- actually as I write these words I'm writing in google docs on a crappy net-book (which is a hell no one should have to suffer), so it came as a shock to me when I saw the news about Extra Credits.

Knowing that I haven't been the most active member on the forums, I do feel compelled to write about this topic now. I'll try to make it brief. I make no bones about it, I love this publication. I've loved the Escapist for several years now, been a publishers club member for about 2 of those years. I will admit what first attracted me to the site was Yahtzee's reviews.

I even have aspirations of working for this publication, in both the last Escapist film festival and the latest call for news writers. I have a very real fear that if what I'm about to say is read by a lot of people those aspirations may never be realized. Journalists and those aspiring to be journalists; however, must never be afraid to speak the truth. Even if it's against the publication they love.

Extra Credits isn't just a good and entertaining show. It's a major contributor to what make this publication great. It embodies the Escapist's ideal of being able to, "capture and celebrate the contemporary video gaming lifestyle and the diverse global video game culture." It is the first feature that genuinely convinced me that my favorite hobby of playing video games was more than just a entertaining diversion but an art. James, Dan and Allison truly made me believe that as a community, we gamers are more than just post adolescents who haven't grown out of a childish activity. We as gamers, do in fact love art, literature, music, history, science, story telling, pacing, immersion and how all of these elements inform and enrich our medium of choice.

If you had caught me before I watched Extra Credits I may have said that movies or novels were the ultimate in story telling. Today though, I am firm in the belief that video games, with their interactive quality, can resonate with their audience in ways that all of the prior mediums simply can't because video games can take on all of the strengths of those mediums. I also believe that a good video game, which represent the contributions of so many, are more than the sum of their parts.

Also, possibly for the first time, I have real faith that gamers can be reasonable. There have already been a lot of threats by all parties on every side of this issue. I won't say that there is any party who is completely with out fault. However, I believe that Extra Credits is worth saving and worth getting past all the disagreements.

Out of reverence to a publication I still love and believe in, I have chosen, instead of pounding my fists, threatening to cancel my publishers subscription or never visiting the Escapist again, to make a request. Please don't go down this path. Make things work with James Portnow in a reasonable way. If Extra Credits were to leave the Escapist it would be more than just a crying shame. It would be a mistake. It would also be the first real time the Escapist has deeply and profoundly disappointed me and I suspect I have the authority to say a lot of other people.

If you feel the same after reading this, I encourage you to comment in a reasonable and calm way.
 

enzilewulf

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As some one who really isn't a active viewer of Extra Credits I must say that they will never go back to the way things were. After reading the responses from James and Alexander it seems that it is a bit hostile now. Sadly there is others contributors that haven't been paid. This isn't reflecting well on the Escapist. It's just a bad situation now that will only end up worse. I personally don't see it coming to a happy ending.
 

Neotericity

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Can you give a link to the news, I missed it...

Anyways, this saddens me greatly, I've come to love Extra Credits and put it as the top video series on the Escapist as far as intellectual conversation on the industry goes, Yahtzee is still entertaining as hell and gotta show some love to Unskippable, but EC is one of my favourite gaming shows, one that I keep up with every week. They seem to have developed quite the fanbase so I imagine it'll be a letdown, but hopefully the fans can understand whatever the reasons... Would like the link though to get my facts straight...
 

the spud

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I am going to wait to see how it all turns out, but until then I am concerned as to what will become of all the other shows here. I hope it all turns out OK, but that doesn't look possible.
 

TheCzar

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all the info so far (you might wanna star reading the first post from bottom to top):
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.305970-Extra-Credits-leaves-the-Escapist-UPDATE-WITH-A-WORD-FROM-ESCAPIST-CEO
 

penguindude42

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"Extra Credits is Worth Saving"?

Did...did Captain Obvious write this??

Oh well, better get out "the sign".

*holds up sign reading "DUH!"*

~TOM<3
 

evilneko

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Daniel Floyd has said he doesn't feel he can trust the administration here at the Escapist. I'm not sure any argument from a user, no matter how reasoned, impassioned, or thoughtful, can bring Extra Credits back to the Escapist. I think it's too late for that from anyone. This has been a long time coming.
 

Comando96

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evilneko said:
Daniel Floyd has said he doesn't feel he can trust the administration here at the Escapist. I'm not sure any argument from a user, no matter how reasoned, impassioned, or thoughtful, can bring Extra Credits back to the Escapist. I think it's too late for that from anyone. This has been a long time coming.
This.

Its not really our decision if the Exrta Credits team don't trust the Escapist.

Damage is done, Extra Credits needs to find a new home... I mean ironically the video is of a higher quality now it is on youtube but, they need an employer in order to keep on Alison...

Hey, Penny Arcade, you bought the Escapist News Network and turned it into Check Points... wanna hire Extra credits too?
 

DJDarque

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I don't think there's any way in hell they're coming back here, but they're still around.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ExtraCreditz

The new episode that would've been here today is on youtube instead. They're keeping it going there. Show them your support.
 

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What the Escapist did to EC was pretty low. I don't think they'll be returning anytime soon if at all.

...And that sucks. I really dug Extra Credits here on the Escapist. I would have gone as far as to say that it was my favorite series on the site.