Face/Off

[Trunkage]

So.. this is happening

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2479418/nicolas-cage-and-john-travoltas-faceoff-is-getting-a-reboot

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. That movie won't strike twice. They were lucky the first time, and lucky everyone went with the utter nonsense of a plot.

But... who do you think should Face/Off?

(There is talk that it might be gender swapped, so don't limit this silliness to males.)

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

That Brienne lady from Game of Thrones and Natalie Portman.

 

[BrawlMan]

So.. this is happening

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2479418/nicolas-cage-and-john-travoltas-faceoff-is-getting-a-reboot

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. That movie won't strike twice. They were lucky the first time, and lucky everyone went with the utter nonsense of a plot.

But... who do you think should Face/Off?

(There is talk that it might be gender swapped, so don't limit this silliness to males.)

I have no idea. I am not even going to bother trying. You can't out do the crazy of Cage and Travolta. In fact, it was the first movie with Nic Cage I watched. I was hooked on him since then and the first Ghost Rider.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenberg.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenberg.

How would you tell the difference?

 

[Squilookle]

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. That movie won't strike twice.

It didn't even strike the first time.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

So.. this is happening

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cinemablend.com/news/2479418/nicolas-cage-and-john-travoltas-faceoff-is-getting-a-reboot

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. That movie won't strike twice. They were lucky the first time, and lucky everyone went with the utter nonsense of a plot.

But... who do you think should Face/Off?

(There is talk that it might be gender swapped, so don't limit this silliness to males.)

I have no idea. I am not even going to bother trying. You can't out do the crazy of Cage and Travolta. In fact, it was the first movie with Nic Cage I watched. I was hooked on him since then and the first Ghost Rider.

Yeah, without Cage and Travolta trying to be the most absurd version of each other and John Woo?s fairly slick action scenes, I can?t see myself paying this much attention. And I mean really, you cannot out-Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cage. Unless maybe you?re Malcolm McDowell I suppose.

 

[Batou667]

Who asked for this? Nobody. NOBODY. It's not even as if it's some forgotten classic black and white film with long-dead actors that needs repackaging for a modern audience. Who thought this was a good idea?

I am disgruntled. Yes, madam, disgruntled.

 

[Trunkage]

Who asked for this? Nobody. NOBODY. It's not even as if it's some forgotten classic black and white film with long-dead actors that needs repackaging for a modern audience. Who thought this was a good idea?

I am disgruntled. Yes, madam, disgruntled.

I mean, there's probably 20 movies a year that are in the same position. Who asked for another Predator movie? Or Robocop?

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Well Face/off is a very 90s product, directed by 90s 'visionary' - for lack of a non-dismissive synonym - John Woo, who impressed many at the time with his slo-mo doves I suppose, but wouldn't cut it today. So any attempt would be recommended to evolve with the times and not wallow entirely in past glories. A modern action visionary, whoever that would be, should be assigned to the task. I wonder whether they're thinking of adding ridiculous twists to up the game this time though, like half of the characters family turn out to be undercover cops all doing their own face/off, the US president is really the Mexican president and the local dentist is actually the local Baker. It could be a self-aware comedy, it might well be. Mission impossible has become a little predictable in that regard, where everytime you see the villain getting what they want, you pretty much know everyone around them is about to rip off their faces at the last second and laugh heartily at the big bad getting punked on live TV airing all their war crimes and shit.

 

[happyninja42]

Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart. They seem incapable of doing films without each other these days. And I think it would be amusing for them to try and asspull why the rest of the actors' bodies also got altered when they do the face switch.

I mean the first movie was stupid as hell and nobody gave a shit, I think the only way a reboot would have a chance, is if they just dove face first into the absurdity of the premise, and stopped giving all the fucks that exist.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. That movie won't strike twice.

It didn't even strike the first time.

It sure didn't. I'm old enough that I had to live through that period when it just came out and everyone hailed as an action masterpiece, and I couldn't wait for them to shut up fast enough.

Also...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7cjHRlLgVw

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenberg.

How would you tell the difference?

Exactly.

 

[Agema]

Christ. Someone was having an off day when they were hearing pitches. Of all the classic movies that could be ripped off for cheap profit remade, why that middling action movie?

Incidentally, I'd like to see the people facing off as Kathy Bates and McCaulay Culkin.

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

You just know they'll try to take it seriously and make it all moody, not go balls to the wall crazy like the original did

 

[Trunkage]

Well Face/off is a very 90s product, directed by 90s 'visionary' - for lack of a non-dismissive synonym - John Woo, who impressed many at the time with his slo-mo doves I suppose, but wouldn't cut it today. So any attempt would be recommended to evolve with the times and not wallow entirely in past glories. A modern action visionary, whoever that would be, should be assigned to the task. I wonder whether they're thinking of adding ridiculous twists to up the game this time though, like half of the characters family turn out to be undercover cops all doing their own face/off, the US president is really the Mexican president and the local dentist is actually the local Baker. It could be a self-aware comedy, it might well be. Mission impossible has become a little predictable in that regard, where everytime you see the villain getting what they want, you pretty much know everyone around them is about to rip off their faces at the last second and laugh heartily at the big bad getting punked on live TV airing all their war crimes and shit.

I would call it a product of the 80s becuase so many people had to be on so many drugs.

Also, why was this movie loved and not Mission Impossible 2 derided and not this one. They were just as stupid

 

[BrawlMan]

Well Face/off is a very 90s product, directed by 90s 'visionary' - for lack of a non-dismissive synonym - John Woo, who impressed many at the time with his slo-mo doves I suppose, but wouldn't cut it today. So any attempt would be recommended to evolve with the times and not wallow entirely in past glories. A modern action visionary, whoever that would be, should be assigned to the task. I wonder whether they're thinking of adding ridiculous twists to up the game this time though, like half of the characters family turn out to be undercover cops all doing their own face/off, the US president is really the Mexican president and the local dentist is actually the local Baker. It could be a self-aware comedy, it might well be. Mission impossible has become a little predictable in that regard, where everytime you see the villain getting what they want, you pretty much know everyone around them is about to rip off their faces at the last second and laugh heartily at the big bad getting punked on live TV airing all their war crimes and shit.

I would call it a product of the 80s becuase so many people had to be on so many drugs.

Also, why was this movie loved and not Mission Impossible 2 derided and not this one. They were just as stupid

Because Mission Impossible 2 felt like a James Bond movie and not a MI movie. Plus, having a John Woo movie that pg-13 is neutering him. That movie's problems are more at fault with the studio and execs than Woo himself. They kicked him out of the editing room, and took control away from his film. Face/Off I found as Woo's 2nd best American film. Hard Target owns all of his American productions. Speaking of Woo, I still have to see his most recent film where he takes it back to his roots. Manhunt is what it is called.

This is a great argument for Face/Off: <link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhBZCmYuLbY>Is FACE/OFF a Good Film?

 

[Squilookle]

Also, why was this movie loved and not Mission Impossible 2 derided and not this one. They were just as stupid

Because Mission Impossible 2 felt like a James Bond movie and not a MI movie.

James Bond and John Woo are complete opposites. There wasn't a single thing about MI:2 that was like James Bond. There was basically nothing in it that was like Mission Impossible either, which was the real problem with it. Face/Off had the advantage of coming out of nowhere without any preconceived expectations.

 

[BrawlMan]

Also, why was this movie loved and not Mission Impossible 2 derided and not this one. They were just as stupid

Because Mission Impossible 2 felt like a James Bond movie and not a MI movie.

There wasn't a single thing about MI:2 that was like James Bond. There was basically nothing in it that was like Mission Impossible either, which was the real problem with it. Face/Off had the advantage of coming out of nowhere without any preconceived expectations.

Yes, it felt like a low grade James Bond movie and I stand by that. MI2 lacked the team dynamic all of the other Mission Impossibles; even III, which was just a generic thriller by comparison. The lover interest is a generic girl-of-the-week who might as well not even exist in the later movies. The villain, Sean Ambrose, has more than a few similarities to Golden Eye's main baddie, Alec Trevelyan. Both are a rogue agent, evil version to the main hero (though Trevelyan is a former friend of Bonds while Ambrose and Hunt always disliked each other). Not to mention you had this weird dove symbolism for Ethan that does not work for character like him. I know doves is a Woo staple, but in a Mission Impossible movie that does not want to be one, but that is fucking nonsensical. MI2 is the Devil May Cry 2 of the MI movies in terms of being bizzaro entry and not lining up well with the rest of the series. Though MI2 can have entertaining moments, DMC2 is boring as hell. Say what you will about the other MI films (mainly 4-6), but at least they're closer to the TV series in spirit with the team dynamic and not completely turning in to the Ethan show.

 

[Trunkage]

Also, why was this movie loved and not Mission Impossible 2 derided and not this one. They were just as stupid

Because Mission Impossible 2 felt like a James Bond movie and not a MI movie.

There wasn't a single thing about MI:2 that was like James Bond. There was basically nothing in it that was like Mission Impossible either, which was the real problem with it. Face/Off had the advantage of coming out of nowhere without any preconceived expectations.

Yes, it felt like a low grade James Bond movie and I stand by that. MI2 lacked the team dynamic all of the other Mission Impossibles; even III, which was just a generic thriller by comparison. The lover interest is a generic girl-of-the-week who might as well not even exist in the later movies. The villain, Sean Ambrose, has more than a few similarities to Golden Eye's main baddie, Alec Trevelyan. Both are a rogue agent, evil version to the main hero (though Trevelyan is a former friend of Bonds while Ambrose and Hunt always disliked each other). Not to mention you had this weird dove symbolism for Ethan that does not work for character like him. I know doves is a Woo staple, but in a Mission Impossible movie that does not want to be one, but that is fucking nonsensical. MI2 is the Devil May Cry 2 of the MI movies in terms of being bizzaro entry and not lining up well with the rest of the series. Though MI2 can have entertaining moments, DMC2 is boring as hell. Say what you will about the other MI films (mainly 4-6), but at least they're closer to the TV series in spirit with the team dynamic and not completely turning in to the Ethan show.

James Bond movies aren't that great either. And the low grade James Bond are the ones with the America stereotype being an obnoxious idiot from the Connery era (that they ripped off at the start of Despicable Me .)

But I would agree MI2 did feel a lot like Brosnon era Bond. Utter bollocks (that was similar to Face/Off) that was so ridiculous it was kinda okay