Fake News!

[Agema]

Overconfident of spotting fake news? If so, you may be more likely to fall victim

Study suggests people who are most sure of their ability to discern fact from fiction are less likely to do so

www.theguardian.com

I cannot help but think the world would be a better place if people had more humility about their competence. I have not infrequently come across people who aspire to be a latter-day Socrates in their logical incisiveness, but the thing I took from Socrates was to always start with the assumption you're probably a lot more ignorant than you think you are.

 

[BrawlMan]

I don't trust many news sites, but I don't call fake news on anything, aside from Fox News. Cuz fuck em; that's why.

 

[Kwak]

You Are Not So Smart

youarenotsosmart.com

 

[Worgen]

I don't trust many news sites, but I don't call fake news on anything, aside from Fox News. Cuz fuck em; that's why.

As much as I hate fox, their news reporting tends to be pretty decent, its their opinion shows that are just cancer and telling the difference between the two can be hard.

 

[tippy2k2]

I only get my news from xXxFukcedYerMomSmokeW33dEvryDay6969xXx so I already know my source is always rock solid.

I'm not falling for your lamestream media lies!

 

[BrawlMan]

As much as I hate fox, their news reporting tends to be pretty decent, its their opinion shows that are just cancer and telling the difference between the two can be hard.

I do like Fox 2 Detroit Local News. They usually check their facts, and don't constantly out shit for "feelings" or highly opinionated pieces. The main Fox News can still fuck off though. Whatever decent news reporting they do have is not worth sitting through the shit that comes before or afterward. Nor is worth waiting when I can find out faster and more reliable places.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I only get my news from xXxFukcedYerMomSmokeW33dEvryDay6969xXx so I already know my source is always rock solid.

I'm not falling for your lamestream media lies!

Is that "based?" I don't know what based is. Is that the opposite of when you "yeet?"

 

[tippy2k2]

Is that "based?" I don't know what based is. Is that the opposite of when you "yeet?"

I called it all Wiggity Wiggity Wiggity Whack dawg and all those damn Millennials just laughed.

Damn kids. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

 

[Worgen]

I do like Fox 2 Detroit Local News. They usually check their facts, and don't constantly out shit for "feelings" or highly opinionated pieces. The main Fox News can still fuck off though. Whatever decent news reporting they do have is not worth sitting through the shit that comes before or afterward. Nor is worth waiting when I can find out faster and more reliable places.

Oh I didn't say it was worth listening too, I just said it was decent. Plus you can check them for confirmation for certain stories that seem like they might be kind of out there.

 

[Dalisclock]

Is that "based?" I don't know what based is. Is that the opposite of when you "yeet?"

Apparently the opposite of "Based" is "Cringe". I know this because I saw it in an internet video about politics so it must be true.

 

[BrawlMan]

Plus you can check them for confirmation for certain stories that seem like they might be kind of out there.

I appreciate the suggestion, but they're not worth the effort. Thanks for trying.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I don't trust many news sites, but I don't call fake news on anything, aside from Fox News. Cuz fuck em; that's why.

Let's remember that, in separate instances, Fox News declared themselves an "entertainment channel" and stated that no reasonable person would believe their most popular commentator.

 

[Gergar12]

Anything sponsored by other countries, or watched by people 65 or older I don't watch often. Now sometimes I read Fox News, and National Review, and when WSJ lets me their articles(Jet fighters for example, and military), but not often. China(most news, other thanSCMP), Russia(most news like RT are bad, Iran(mostly PressTV, but most news) is bad. Anything liberal is good but watches the framing. Al J is good in the Middle East but not on QATAR, Saudis, and Iranians. Their segments on the US are godly.

On the progressive side, I avoid Jimmy Dore, and this one Canada left moonbat side. On the center side, I avoid nothing but I watch their framing. Communist, and anarchists, I haven't seen except on Reddit.

I wish I had the patience for Chapo or DSA long videos I don't. I used to go to Our revolution, but now they mostly interview lefty people in Congress and ask for money.

TYT, Secular Talk, and Majority Report plus the Krystal, and Kyle Show is good, but they are designed to get you not to vote dem oftentimes, and it works sometimes, but I always vote dem, except those two local elections where I couldn't due to no lefty people or even liberal people on the ballot.

Journal articles and journal books are too long, but the first is good.

Twitter, alternative left people not John Oliver for example but Ken Killpenstein is informative.

Also don't watch too much news, if you really want to go organize, keep it limited or you will get very partisan, and angry.

 

[SilentPony]

I mean to be fair Fake News is nothing new to this world. How many historical events do we think actually happened, or happened a certain way, because propaganda and selective editing changed the story?
People REALLY think Nessy exists, and rock carving of people with buckets is proof of ancient aliens building pyramids, and Caesar really said "Et tu" and on and on. If you ask me this era is one of the best for honest news 'cause we have cameras everywhere, everyone has a phone, internet allows for real-time streaming. We don't have to wait 18 months for the caravans to arrive from the war front to know if King Turkey-Guts stormed the river at the battle of who gives a shit.
There is a problem with people just fabricating news, and a problem with people just not believing news because it fits their world view. I remember when the Trump administration started putting refugee children in those cages it started as "We'd prefer not to call them cages" and soon morphed into "FAKE NEWS!" with Trumpers saying its staged, the kids are actors, its liberal Hollywood, and patrolling these camps, armed, threatening to shoot any journalist who tries to get in because they were the enemy of Trump.
Its not so much fake news as reality deniers.

 

[Gordon_4]

I mean to be fair Fake News is nothing new to this world. How many historical events do we think actually happened, or happened a certain way, because propaganda and selective editing changed the story?
People REALLY think Nessy exists, and rock carving of people with buckets is proof of ancient aliens building pyramids, and Caesar really said "Et tu" and on and on. If you ask me this era is one of the best for honest news 'cause we have cameras everywhere, everyone has a phone, internet allows for real-time streaming. We don't have to wait 18 months for the caravans to arrive from the war front to know if King Turkey-Guts stormed the river at the battle of who gives a shit.
There is a problem with people just fabricating news, and a problem with people just not believing news because it fits their world view. I remember when the Trump administration started putting refugee children in those cages it started as "We'd prefer not to call them cages" and soon morphed into "FAKE NEWS!" with Trumpers saying its staged, the kids are actors, its liberal Hollywood, and patrolling these camps, armed, threatening to shoot any journalist who tries to get in because they were the enemy of Trump.
Its not so much fake news as reality deniers.

Isn’t the “Et tu, Brutus?” quote from Shakespeare’s play about Julius Cesar rather than a quote attributed to the man himself?

 

[SilentPony]

Isn’t the “Et tu, Brutus?” quote from Shakespeare’s play about Julius Cesar rather than a quote attributed to the man himself?

Its considered an historical quote of his, like "Veni vidi vici", which again is a quote we all just sorta pretend someone actually said 2000 years ago despite having played the phone game in school and know you can't trust what someone was 2 minutes ago to be accurate.

 

[Gordon_4]

Its considered an historical quote of his, like "Veni vidi vici", which again is a quote we all just sorta pretend someone actually said 2000 years ago despite having played the phone game in school and know you can't trust what someone was 2 minutes ago to be accurate.

Well, shows what I know >.>

 

[SilentPony]

Well, shows what I know >.>

Its not something anyone should be annoyed by, its just when you step back remember most of history happened before photography. And eye witness testimony is not only unreliable, consider all the people throughout history who didn't have good eyesight and corrective wear, and spoke different languages, dialects, have political/emotional responses to events, and then just straight up mistranslations, and people just adding shit for emphasis, or to make accounts seem better.
Napoleon is a great example. He was well known to inflate his accomplishments, known for stealing ideas from subordinates to pass as his own, known for his propaganda that painted him in the best light, known for exaggerated claims and straight up lying. He's also known as the greatest military mind in history, winning huge epic battles off brilliant ideas 100% his, and for his great brain and fearless handsomeness...according to French history and his own memoires, and the accounts of other nations based off what the French told them Napoleon did.

 

[Thaluikhain]

"Et tu, brute?" might not be a great example, as it's largely an irrelevance to the main point of the story. If his last words were reported incorrectly, but the actions of the people around him and their motives is reasonable accurate, I think we can be fairly happy with that. We can't hope to fully understand everything, or even really anything, but a good solid understanding is, IMHO, usually all we need.

Going back to the original topic...yes? Now, I'm guilty of believing I'm "better than average" in not being tricked by important fake news (not necessarily by spotting it, but by keeping a vague suspicion of what people say about important stuff), but unless people think it's not a problem for them, it's not a problem. If people know they are easily fooled, they'll try not to be so easily fooled.

 

[Chimpzy]

Well, shows what I know >.>

Fun fact, "Et tu, brute?" aren't even his last words in the play. They're "Then fall Caesar".