Far Cry Primal is best Far Cry. Tragically, still a Far Cry game.

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Zhukov

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So I managed to talk my way into some alone time with a preview build of Far Cry Primal.

Disappointment abounds.

To be fair, I was actually impressed by the balls-out premise. Especially after the way FC4 followed up FC3's mediocrity with a big lukewarm dollop of the same. Ditching it all for a game in the stone age? Fucking brilliant. Sign me up.

On the plus side the world looks awfully pretty. Really sells the whole primeval wilderness thing. Colossal trees, rugged peaks and wild animals galore.

There's the usual cast of whacky and slightly unhinged characters who get fun and memorable introductory scenes but then sit around doing sweet fuck all besides sending you on fetch quests.

On the downside there's... well, everything else.

You play as Takkar, a random hunter guy with absolutely no distinct personality or characteristics whatsoever. It feels like playing a silent protagonist who insists on talking.

Biggest disappointment is the melee combat system. There isn't one. You just equip a melee weapon, walk into range and mash left click. You flail at the enemies and they flail at you until whoever started with less health falls over. No block, no parry, no counter, no dodge. Later on you can hold click for a charged attack, but I'm pretty sure it's actually less efficient than just mashing left click.

Combat essentially feels like if you took FC4, removed all the enemies except the hunters and the melee guys, and you only have the bow and the aforementioned click-a-thon melee. Despite the removal of guns and explosives it manages to feel remarkably samey. Fighting animals is even more boring since they don't have any abilities. They just run at you and melee you. You shoot them and melee them back until they die. Takedowns are still a thing, but they had to remove the more fun ones. After all, you can't do a grenade or sidearm takedown thousands of years before those things existed.

The one thing they did expand was the resource gathering. You know how in FC3+4 you gathered animal skins and colour-coded leaves to get upgrades? Well now you get to collect rocks and sticks and clay and reeds and beehives and special rocks. You get to do it a lot.

The big new feature is the animal taming. Mr Takkar the non-character is also some kind of Special who can tame animals for reasons the game was in no hurry to explain. Basically you throw some meat at an animal (predators only), hold down a button and it turns into your ressurectable buddy who follows you about attacking things that attack you. You can sic them on specific targets, although it's generally more efficient to just shoot them yourself. I only ever bothered doing it to see the admittedly cool kill animations. For such a vaunted feature it feels oddly token and unnecessary.

According to the skill tree you can ride some of them. I didn't get that far. Although I did get to ride a mammoth. Which was exactly like riding an elephant in FC4, but now the elephant is hairy.

So then you do the Far Cry thing. You go to places and kill everything, you clear outposts and you chip away at a mountain of collectibles. Except this time you can have a jaguar following you around.

It's a shame really. Primal feel like it could have been a really cool game if it had been made by someone other than Ubisoft as something other than a Far Cry sequel.
 

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Zhukov said:
Basically you throw some meat at an animal (predators only)
Aww, you've destroyed my dreams of winning the heart and loyalty of a bunny by throwing giant slabs of raw meat at it.

Zhukov said:
It's a shame really. Primal feel like it could have been a really cool game if it had been made by someone other than Ubisoft as something other than a Far Cry sequel.
Interesting that that's not far off what I thought about two seconds after I first heard about the game. Well, my thoughs were more along the lines of "Oh - prehistoric age, that's cool. Shame it's a FarCry spin off". Disclaimer - I've never played FarCry or Crysis before. It's not like I hate them, they were just never my thing. I thought that while a game where you play as a guy in dinosaur sounds like a cool premise, it would just feel a bit...less compared to the rest of the games. Seems I was mostly correct in my initial assumption.
 

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About the only thing Ubisoft's Far Cry games have in common with Crytek's Far Cry is hang gliders, and I don't think this game has hang gliders in it.
 

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Best far cry was first game by crytek.

This is just a rehash cash cow for ubisoft. Its just far cry 4 without guns and cars. Waste of time
 
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Not surprising. It's a just another product of the Ubisoft sausage factory. In the ever increasingly sameish and repetitive world of AAA gaming, Ubisoft are one of the worst offenders when it comes to churning out sequels only-slightly-different-to-last-year's-version.
 

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I'd really hoped they'd do something proper with the melee combat. Even if it was to only make it to Skyrim-level (attack, block, heavy attack, special attacks by heavy attacking whilst moving slightly in a particular direction) rather than going further and making it more hardcore like Mount & Blade (directional blocking and all that jazz).

Guess that was too much to ask for. :(
 

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Yeah, I had a feeling this would be the case when it was first announced. I had a vision of climbing some peak to light a bonfire so I can locate more sabertooth tiger icons so that I could hunt their skins and craft a bigger quiver to hold 5 arrows instead of 4 hahahahaha. It sounds like thats EXACTLY the kind of gameplay we're dealing with here.

I have and enjoy Far Cry 3. No need to get this one it seems.
 

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As someone who's put ten hours into this game, he ain't wrong ladies and gents. The only thing I'd say he has missed is that animals are a lot more difficult early game to flee from and kill. There is some cool stuff.

-A later skill lets you ride a Saber-tooth tiger and Brown Bear.
-ummmmm.... There's caveman balls and titties?

Sadly, everything else he's got right. Animal Taming is pretty much useless. Animals go down way to quickly and really don't provide any combat aid. The melee you just spam attack. It's a Ubisoft game down to the core, but at least it's better than Far Cry 4.
 

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Wow...not even the ability to block, and shooting with arrows being more effective than making one of your animal companions attack it? I thought I might finally buy a far cry game again after all these years. (I bought far cry 1 only) Mostly because of the prehistoric age and primitive combat. I love both of those. But if the combat is so incredibly basic...meh. =x For me, Skyrim-level combat is a bare minimum. As in, being able to block and doing different combat animations depending on what direction you're moving. But if they don't even have the ability to block, I'll pass...

And about the 'it's just another far cry game' thing. That seems to be the trend for a few years now. AAA companies find their 'style' that made their game popular, then stick with their style for all or at least most future games. Bethesda did it with Fallout and Elder Scrolls, Bioware did it with Dragon Age and Mass Effect, Ubisoft did it with Far Cry and Assassin's Creed, etc.

That's not to say I like the trend. Games become incredibly repetitive and boring that way. And I wish more companies actually tried to innovate. Take CDProjekt RED for instance. They haven't released that many (well known) games yet. But their Witcher series tried to improve with each iteration at least. Witcher 1 was fairly complicated, clunky, trying to show a mature world, and with a rather laborious combat system. Witcher 2 greatly improved on the clunkiness and combat, tried making the story and characters far more important, and was less difficult to get into. Then Witcher 3 improved the combat yet again, added investigation (though the witcher senses made it too easy), added semi-open world while keeping a mostly linear story, added the best horse riding I've seen so far in a game, and properly streamlined and changed the skill/equipment system. (properly as in, not dumbed down but more accessible.) Each game improved on, and was better than the last. Other big companies should learn from them and take some small risks by trying something a little different every now and then.
 

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So it's exactly what I thought it'd be. Color me unsurprised.

They've taken out the best parts of what makes a (recent) Far Cry game a Far Cry game (guns, explosives, vehicles, grenade/gun takedowns, etc), and replaced these things with ...absolutely nothing. Because the animal taming thing is not actually a new feature; it was in Far Cry 4 during the drug induced sequences (where you have a tame white tiger following you around and who can be directed at enemies).

Speaking of, are there any drug trip-outs in Primal? I'm guessing not.
 

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IceForce said:
Speaking of, are there any drug trip-outs in Primal? I'm guessing not.
Several actually. You go on a flying adventure in one, play as an enemy tribe and try to destroy their idol in the second one, and the last few put your mind in that of a mammoth.
 

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Elfgore said:
IceForce said:
Speaking of, are there any drug trip-outs in Primal? I'm guessing not.
Several actually. You go on a flying adventure in one, play as an enemy tribe and try to destroy their idol in the second one, and the last few put your mind in that of a mammoth.
Well, I stand corrected. Can't beat those stone age drugs.
 

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IceForce said:
Elfgore said:
IceForce said:
Speaking of, are there any drug trip-outs in Primal? I'm guessing not.
Several actually. You go on a flying adventure in one, play as an enemy tribe and try to destroy their idol in the second one, and the last few put your mind in that of a mammoth.
Well, I stand corrected. Can't beat those stone age drugs.
Yeah, it wasn't called the stone age because there were rocks around but because of all the stoners.
 

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Iwas hoping they did more than jsut reskinning FC4 and removing the guns and such.

But no. And after hearing taming animals isn't as involved as it should be (really? throw meat and then a QTE of sorts?) I instantly lost any reason to even bother with it.

*sigh*
Shame Far Cry is going this route.
 

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It looks really barebones, I might get in the future for 5 bucks or something.
 
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The main thing I was afraid of was how they managed melee combat. In Far Cry 2-4 it was incredibly simple, but it didn't need to be complicated because the primary method of combat was the assortment of guns/explosives.

But the only major ranged weapon in Primal is the bow (and throwing clubs and axes). The rest is reliant on the "melee" system. But instead of making it engaging, they opted to just port over the melee system from the previous game. A weightless, low impact, flailing melee system with the same animations.

I think they could have really benefited from spending more time with crafting better combat in general. Make it more visceral. Maybe some Condemned type first person melee combat, something that isn't necessarily that much more complicated, but it feels more weighted and brutal.
 

Zhukov

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IceForce said:
Because the animal taming thing is not actually a new feature; it was in Far Cry 4 during the drug induced sequences (where you have a tame white tiger following you around and who can be directed at enemies).
Yeah, I played FC4 after Primal was announced and as soon as I got to the first Shangri-la sequence I realized where the idea for Primal had come from.
 

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It looked like a boring game from the very beginning. At least with Blood Dragon the premise and the execution were so well done I didn't care that the formula was basically a streamlined Far Cry 3. It was more fun than Far Cry 3 and definitely more fun than Far Cry 4. I couldn't get into 4 at all. So, so dull. I'm officially out of fucks to give when it comes to Ubisoft games. They just don't know how to make fun games anymore. Everything after Blood Dragon and AC Rogue (and Rogue is really stretching it) was boring as all hell.
 

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Somebody mod the animals and humans to look like the Trigens from the original Far Cry and I'll play it.

But I think it's such a shame that Far Cry 3 continues to be the blueprint that Ubisoft now copies from.