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Cuddly Knife

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... Plus a question or two, to spark a little discussion.

First, my faves:
1. God Hand[PS2] - beat em ups are supposed to be over-the-top in execution, making your character basically a one-man army in the vein of old-school shmups. God Hand does that very thing and more, with it's unique take on combat freedom, by offering you the ability to switch out any collected fighting moves at any time(in a menu, of course). The roulette moves steal the show though, with some insane ways to stun or downright kill your opponents. IGN gave this game a 3.0. http://ps2.ign.com/articles/738/738253p1.html Blew my mind, when I give this game no less than a 8.5. The only thing that could've made it better was co op.

2. Battletoads[NES] - Considered to be one of the most difficult games ever created, it's also one of the funnest, with some seriously unique gameplay and level design(worm-riding, snowball throwing, swimming, spinning towers with clouds trying to blow you off it, surfing, and who can forget the clinger-winger level?). Plus co op up until the clinger winger level, LOL.

3. Double Dragon 2[NES] - It streamlined the combat from the original, added co op, and some great new moves, and viola! awesomeness in a little gray cart. I thought this version was better than the arcade version, but that also went for pt 1.

4. Viewtiful Joe[GCN] - Possibly the most unique beat em up ever. So unique, it even had a shoot em up level in it.

And now, on to my question. Should games like Ninja Gaiden, DMC, God of War, Otogi, and to a lesser extent, Jade Empire be considered beat-em-ups? I ask, because I see that they follow the same types of formulas, such as having to kill set amounts of enemies before moving on, combos and moves created for certain situations, boss battles where the enemy is ten times stronger than regular goons, and so on. Would people be more inclined to call Ninja Gaiden a beat em up if they only gave you the Falcon's Talons for use in the game? IMO, the beat em up genre has basically evolved into what we see these days. Not so much hack/slash/repeat, and more of a focus on freeform combos and such.
 

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If you count it again I have to say Otogi: Myth of Demons.

If not then there is always Ninja Turtles 4, turtles in time.
 

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Yeah, I'd say games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden are beat-em-ups. They're just in 3-D, and they sometimes offer some kind of RPGesque upgrading of your character, but really, the premise is pretty much the same.

Unfortunately, there's one element that the former games lack: co-op. Co-op made the awesome genre even more awesome. Furthermore, newer beat-em-up games are hard to come by. Even more so than their dumbed down, random chance reliant counterparts - hack n' slashers like Diablo and Baldur's Gate.

1) Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition - Kickass weapons, kickass bosses, kickass fighting styles, everything about this game kicks ass. The only real problem with this game is the camera. The Bloody Palace, Vergil, and the extra difficulties add some nice replay value.

2) Devil May Cry 4 - Basically a prettier, but toned down version of 3. Nero's arm is awesome, but his arsenal is lacking, as he only has 1 gun and 1 sword. Dante's weapons aren't as interesting as they were in DMC3. Better graphics, brighter, and better camera control (woo.), but the difficulty is lacking compared to that of DMC3. Bloody Palace is still pretty damn tough though.

3)Shadow Over Mystara - As far as I'm concerned, among the 2-D games, this is the next best thing to the DMC series. Combat is nowhere near as deep, but each character, as well as each enemy (even the cannon fodder), has a good variety of melee attacks, items, and special moves/attributes, like the Mage's spells, the Cleric's healing and blessing, the Thief's infinite sling ammo and ability to double jump, the Elf's ability to use her sword as a pogo stick (more useful than it sounds), etc. Decent difficulty.

4) Maximum Carnage - This is the best Spider-Man game I've ever played. Spider-Man has an impressive moveset, and can do pretty much everything you'd expect him to. And he's sufficiently fast and strong. (though you can't take that many hits before dying) Even though you spend most of the game on the ground fighting thugs like a standard beat-em-up, you can climb walls (to drop down and kick thugs from above) and kick enemies while web swinging. Which leads to the question: why isn't Spider-Man nearly this fun to play as in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance?

5) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4: Turtles In Time - This game brings back some good memories. Each character is fairly different in stats like speed and reach, but they unfortunately all have the same moves, aside from the special attack. The one thing I don't like about this game is that the best way to kill enemies is almost always Dash -> That overpowered throw that slams foot soldiers back and forth and kills any enemies hit by the soldier's body -> Repeat.

In conclusion, Capcom needs to hurry up and start working on Devil May Cry 5.... and add co-op to it.
 

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Double Dragon, Castle Crashers, and TMNT: Turtles in Time (the original, not the bullshit Ubisoft remake.)
 

omega 616

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I thought a beat em up was tekken etc, did I not get that memo?

I don't mean that small part of a tekken 3, tekken force.
 

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River City Ransom

X-Men The Arcade (C'mon, an awesome beat-em up with an awesomely bad Engrish localization. Gotta love it.)
 

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Answer to your question; no those games are not beat em ups.
A beat em up is one on one, or two on two in rare cases, not a single guy going through levels and killing scores of baddies. That's a general action game.

Best; Tekken 3, Street Fighter 2 and Dead or Alive 4.
 

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Kenjitsuka said:
Answer to your question; no those games are not beat em ups.
A beat em up is one on one, or two on two in rare cases, not a single guy going through levels and killing scores of baddies. That's a general action game.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%27em_up] You are confusing beat'em ups with fighting games [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_game] AKA one-on-one fighters.
 

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soul caliber 2 and the super smash brothers series are probably as good as it gets with me.

i do have fond memories of fighters destiny though. never managed to unlock the joker on that game.
 

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castle crashers: beat em up/rpg twist with four player co-op, amazing sense of humor, killer sound track and fantastic artwork.
 

Kenjitsuka

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Oh, well then I'll say Double Dragon :)

P.S.
I don't live in an English speaking country, so maybe that caused the mix up.
Oh well, it's all good as long as the enemy get's kicked across the screen ^_^
 

Cuddly Knife

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If games like DMC and Ninja Gaiden are really considered beat em ups, then my list would have to include Ninja Gaiden Black for my number one spot.
 

Deleric

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Turtles in Time FTW!

Kenjitsuka said:
Answer to your question; no those games are not beat em ups.
A beat em up is one on one, or two on two in rare cases, not a single guy going through levels and killing scores of baddies. That's a general action game.

Best; Tekken 3, Street Fighter 2 and Dead or Alive 4.
No..Beat em Ups feature usual sidescrolling "beating people up" like the games in OP's post.

The games you're listing are Fighter games. There's a difference.
 

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Cuddly Knife said:
And now, on to my question. Should games like Ninja Gaiden, DMC, God of War, Otogi, and to a lesser extent, Jade Empire be considered beat-em-ups?
Hack-and-slash subgenre. You're still going around beating the crap out of everything, only more weapon based (and usually dismemberment.)
Hmmm... River City Ransom comes to mind.
 

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METAL SLUG 1-5 (6 was eh)

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X-men the arcade game

the simpsons arcade game lol

the punisher arcade game

did i mention metal slug?
 

Cuddly Knife

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DeadlyYellow said:
Hack-and-slash subgenre. You're still going around beating the crap out of everything, only more weapon based (and usually dismemberment.)
Hmmm... River City Ransom comes to mind.
I hate to call those games hack and slash. hack/slash reminds me more of games like Dynasty Warriors, Ninety-Nine Nights, Baldur's Gate, and classics like golden Axe. Where you basically have canned combos, with no option for freeform combat. Hell, I wouldn't be so far out to want to include Dead Rising in this beat em up genre. It's more hack/slash, but the freeform comes in your ability to use almost anything as a weapon, including your fists.