FINALLY, Shenmue 1 and 2 are now re-releasing on PS4, XBONE, and PC.

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Here's the thing.

I played through Shenmue when it was still fresh, enjoyed it well enough, but when I got into the Yakuza series, it hit all the same notes that I thought good with Shenmue but with far FARRRR more satisfying action. So I really can't see a reason to have these unless one is a completionist and wants to see what the early days of such games are like.
 

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Am not exactly confident that these will have aged particularly well, to be frank. Having owned, completed and appreciated them at the time, every memory of the experience seems to produce a gameplay mechanic or story beat that would not stand up to modern scrutiny one bit. And the goddamn forklift minigames, oh sweet Lucifer's love eggs, the mandatory races. You had to work jobs in your game too, remember? Quick-time controlled day-jobs!...in your videogame that you play in your own free time!
As much as the inner younger me wants to keep those rose-tinted memories intact for selfish reasons no doubt, it's better to be honest, and fuck that guy [small](oops!)[/small] bear anyway, he was an asshole who doesn't deserve happy memories.
 

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Smithnikov said:
Here's the thing.

I played through Shenmue when it was still fresh, enjoyed it well enough, but when I got into the Yakuza series, it hit all the same notes that I thought good with Shenmue but with far FARRRR more satisfying action. So I really can't see a reason to have these unless one is a completionist and wants to see what the early days of such games are like.
I know it's technically called action adventure, but Shemue isn't an action game in the sense you are implying, really. The action sequences are few and far between. It's mostly about slow methodical exploration and interaction with people objects around the town/area. It's mostly about story, kind of like Heavy Rain or something, except you can interact with more stuff. So I still think these games have their place.
 

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Never played them, and maybe the story will carry all of the weight, but what I've seen of it from the trailers it looks dated to hell and back. Even with the spitshine it looks like a slightly more detailed Dynasty Warriors 2.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Never played them, and maybe the story will carry all of the weight, but what I've seen of it from the trailers it looks dated to hell and back. Even with the spitshine it looks like a slightly more detailed Dynasty Warriors 2.
Remember that this game from a technical perspective of the time was a graphical milestone for Console Gaming and a showcase of what the Dreamcast was capable of.

Because before Shenmue, video game graphics used to looked like this:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Uk6RWeDYEC94aCCvqqDeuc.jpg

http://www.vizzed.com/videogames/n64/screenshot/Super%20Smash%20Bros.-3.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_B6rYn3jhM0/maxresdefault.jpg

Also Shenmue came out in Japan 1 year before Dynasty Warriors 2.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Never played them, and maybe the story will carry all of the weight, but what I've seen of it from the trailers it looks dated to hell and back. Even with the spitshine it looks like a slightly more detailed Dynasty Warriors 2.
You should at least try them. As I said above it's more about the joy of exploration, interacting with people/objects and working out what to do next and that's Shenmue's appeal. Just because something is old doesn't automatically make it not fun.
 

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I never got the chance to play Shenmue, but I am not too interested. I am happy for my fellow Sega brothers and sisters though. The fact that the Yakuza games picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years, does not help.
 

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I never got the chance to play Shenmue, but I am not too interested. I am happy for my fellow Sega brothers and sisters though. The fact that the Yakuza games picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years, does not help.
They're completely different, and Yakuza should not be treated as a Shenmue spiritual sequel. It's a completely different game with only superficial similarities. Yakuza is a brawler at heart, with adventure aspects. Shenmue is the direct opposite, a pure adventure game that very occasionally has a few fights. People's preference for one over the other generally hinges on which type of game they're looking for.
 

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dscross said:
CoCage said:
I never got the chance to play Shenmue, but I am not too interested. I am happy for my fellow Sega brothers and sisters though. The fact that the Yakuza games picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years, does not help.
They're completely different, and Yakuza should not be treated as a Shenmue spiritual sequel. It's a completely different game with only superficial similarities. Yakuza is a brawler at heart, with adventure aspects. Shenmue is the direct opposite, a pure adventure game that very occasionally has a few fights. People's preference for one over the other generally hinges on which type of game they're looking for.
You are right about that, but it does not make what I said or other thinking the same thing, any less true.
 

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CoCage said:
dscross said:
CoCage said:
I never got the chance to play Shenmue, but I am not too interested. I am happy for my fellow Sega brothers and sisters though. The fact that the Yakuza games picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years, does not help.
They're completely different, and Yakuza should not be treated as a Shenmue spiritual sequel. It's a completely different game with only superficial similarities. Yakuza is a brawler at heart, with adventure aspects. Shenmue is the direct opposite, a pure adventure game that very occasionally has a few fights. People's preference for one over the other generally hinges on which type of game they're looking for.
You are right about that, but it does not make what I said or other thinking the same thing, any less true.
What do you mean? You said 'Yakuza picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years'. I'm just disputing that by saying they are fundamentally different that's all. Otherwise the post might put people off trying it because they are might get the impression that Shenmue is basically a worse version of Yakuza.
 

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dscross said:
CoCage said:
dscross said:
CoCage said:
I never got the chance to play Shenmue, but I am not too interested. I am happy for my fellow Sega brothers and sisters though. The fact that the Yakuza games picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years, does not help.
They're completely different, and Yakuza should not be treated as a Shenmue spiritual sequel. It's a completely different game with only superficial similarities. Yakuza is a brawler at heart, with adventure aspects. Shenmue is the direct opposite, a pure adventure game that very occasionally has a few fights. People's preference for one over the other generally hinges on which type of game they're looking for.
You are right about that, but it does not make what I said or other thinking the same thing, any less true.
What do you mean? You said 'Yakuza picked up where Shenmue left off and filling the gap for nearly 20 years'. I'm just disputing that by saying they are fundamentally different that's all. Otherwise the post might put people off trying it because they are might get the impression that Shenmue is basically a worse version of Yakuza.
If I came off as saying that Shenmue was a worse version of Yakuza, my bad, was not the intention. I was just saying Yakuza has been filling that niche for nearly 20 years. Yes, Yakuza is more of a brawler at heart, and Shenmue is more of an adventure game, but that still counts for a lot. Look, I think everyone is happy that Shenmue is getting a re-realease and a sequel; there is no refuting that.

When it came out it, Shenmue was a major influence on video games as a whole. Shenmue laid out the groundwork for interactive NPCs that had their own schedule and dates, the goofing around actives, QTEs, and combat which is Virtua fighter as a beat'em up. All the things Yakuza would pick up and then some. I'm just saying, for hardcore Yakuza fans or modern gamer, Shenmue I & II won't be giving them much other than this where a lot open sandbox games got their influences from. Now, I am sure there fans of Yakuza that were or are fans of Shenmue, so they get multiple option either way. All I am doing is pointing out what's been going on in gaming, since Shenmue's long absence.