For The Love Of... Guns? Why are they so loved?

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Parasondox

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There is a Rush Hour TV series? Why? How? Who? Da Fuck!!

Guns. That's all I got. I didn't plan this fully.

Wait, I am catching up on the Daily Show and wow, a bit about guns. How ironic... and scary because the gun is question can be sharped into a smart phone. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!! There should be an idiot tax.

Aaaaaanywho. Why are guns so loved. So, embraced. So... loved. I mean in the US, if you mention any sort of gun control, people lose their shits. I gave seen those documentaries where parents would by their little ones guns and customise it and love it and name it, take it out for dinner, buy it some sexy Victoria Secret. The works.

What's the obsession about. Is it a penis thing? It's a penis thing isn't it? A small piece?

Why do guns get so much love? I mean, are they God?... Of course not you dumbass!!
 

tippy2k2

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Because I can't get it up without shooting my gun! What!?! It's a perfectly normal problem! Don't judge me!!!!

Honestly, I don't really get it either. I certainly understand wanting to own a gun for rec shooting or hunting or something (I do not own a gun but I am interested in getting a pistol for the gun range and a shotgun for pheasant shooting) but people who worship the many many guns they own is just weird to me.

I know plenty of people who love their guns and they're not the "Totally insecure about their tiny penis" kind of people; they just really like their guns the same way that I really like my golfing stuff. I don't understand it but as long as they're responsible about it, I have no problem with it.
 

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Does it really matter? Should I start an inquisition here about why people love video games so much? Gun collecting'/shooting is literally just like any other hobby. As for why they get defensive, it's just like when gamers and the Internet get angry when people try and enforce laws and rules on them. It's threatening something they care about, that's coming from people who don't know jack about it.

BTW: Don't own nor have any wish to own guns.
 

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Elfgore said:
Does it really matter? Should I start an inquisition here about why people love video games so much? Gun collecting'/shooting is literally just like any other hobby. As for why they get defensive, it's just like when gamers and the Internet get angry when people try and enforce laws and rules on them. It's threatening something they care about, that's coming from people who don't know jack about it.

BTW: Don't own nor have any wish to own guns.
The difference is more of a life and death thing. I mean, video games don't kill people. DO NOT SHOW ME A CRAZY CASE SUGGESTING OTHERWISE. Also every time a video game accidently starts up, you don't have to inform the authorises about it.

I am not even pro or anti gun, just wanted to know why is their so much love towards it.
 

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Because it gives people a sense of power, I guess?

I don't like guns. They're scary. I've shot a fire arm before (sports reasons), and while I liked aiming and it actually ended up being a decent shot, I hated everything that followed directly after I pulled the trigger. The bang, the recoil... It became so very, very clear how much damage it could do. Even though I was the one holding it, I felt a little unsafe. Like, why should I be trusted with something like this?! I'm just an ordinary person! The idea that people genuinely like everything I hated about it, scares me even more. I think that, like many sorts of power, it's something best left in the hands of people who are responsible enough to not want it.
 

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I think it's the same as with medieval or fantasy weapon enthusiasts, who collect swords and such. Guns however, are still "relevant" as weapons in our modern age. So it wouldn't surprise me if gun enthusiasts were more common.
 

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Elfgore said:
Does it really matter? Should I start an inquisition here about why people love video games so much? Gun collecting'/shooting is literally just like any other hobby. As for why they get defensive, it's just like when gamers and the Internet get angry when people try and enforce laws and rules on them. It's threatening something they care about, that's coming from people who don't know jack about it.
It's quite a bit different. Video games, for one, are an artistic expression: they contain ideas, stories. Most importantly, they do not cause harm.

Guns are weapons. It's no comparison, really. Plenty of calls for regulation or prohibition come from people who know about them (sometimes too much).
 

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There's a ton of reasons to love guns, or at least view them as a necessity.

For starters, in some areas of the country, people may use guns to help protect livestock. For instance, when I lived in Michigan, I had friends that had to worry about some animals (I believe raccoons) killing their chickens. People don't want to give up guns when part of their livelihood depends on them.

Then there are hunters. In a lot of states (e.g. Michigan, Pennsylvania), hunting is a major past time. It's not uncommon for politicians there to go after a rival by claiming that their proposals would put restrictions on hunting. Some people fear gun restrictions would take away (or reduce) the enjoyment (and potential food) they get from hunting.

And then there are people who like shooting sports. Actually, a vast majority of the people I know who are really into guns just like going to a range with a few friends and shooting at targets. It's relaxing and good for socializing and fun competition.

Finally, you'll occasionally get the instances where the person feels legitimately in danger and wants a gun for protection. This is used a lot in ads, but I've rarely seen it play out in real life. It certainly isn't as common as the above reasons.

Edit: Actually, one more reason: A lot of people like collecting guns. I'd imagine this is similar to the desire to collect other weapons like swords or knives.

Basically, think of guns like alcohol. You can easily pull out a lot of statistics on both that show how they are a danger to both the user and those around the user. But any restrictions will be seen as punishing the vast majority of legitimate, safe users because a small percentage misuse whatever it is. As a result, those will probably have a hard time catching on.

That said, most gun owners I know aren't completely opposed to better regulations here. It's just that their voice tends to get drowned out by the NRA leadership.
 

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I ind it much more refreshing to use my bare hands. To feel the bones of my opponent's nose give way under my fist. Then I decide how I will repay the bastard for daring to bleed on my favourite shirt.
 

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I can't really tell you why everyone likes guns, but I can tell you why I like them.

1. I like shooting. It's fun. And while it certainly sounds stupid, and perhaps it is stupid, proper firearms are more amusing to fire then something like a BB/Pellet gun. The noise, the recoil, the smell, the distances involved... it's just an experience for me.

2. Historically interesting. Like MarsAltas said, there's a lot of history behind guns, particularly for Americans. But even beyond that, the history of guns as devices themselves is interesting.

3. Pleasing mechanism. While a gun seems like a fairly simple device, some of them are quite complicated, and a few are down right engineering marvels. This also ties into gun history, of course - It's very interesting studying the history of firearms, how people engineered them, the challenges gun makers had to deal with, stuff like that.

4. I have a firearm fetish. For some reason, armed women are a turn on. Hell, the first time I fired a machine gun, and the first time I fired a M2 Browning, I got an erection. It's not pretty, and kind of gross I guess, but there it is.

5. I have a micro-penis and guns make me feel big and strong.

EDIT:

All that being said... I do think we need to have an honest, lobbyist free look at gun regulation. I don't think firearms as a whole should be illegal, but we definitely have a problem with how we handle it now. It's a discussion for another thread though, but a few of the ideas I'd perhaps be comfortable with would be...

1. Mandatory Safety Training/Certification for gun ownership.

2. Making all gun transfers government tracked, like cars are.

3. Individual gun registration.

4. Making people (More) criminally liable for gun accidents, even if they weren't the ones who fired it and just owned it.
 

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I have a friend who's a really good guy and he's recently bought a gun, and now he's wanting to buy more. He started telling me he wishes that he could open and conceal carry (we live in Canada, in an area with very low crime rates), and that he needs to be prepared if something goes wrong. It really made me think about the psychology behind people who feel the need to have guns. I think a lot of the time it comes down to fear, either on a small scale (a home invasion or break-in) or large scale (a tyrannical government), and at least in our area, this fear seems a bit irrational. The guy lives on the third floor of a townhouse with a security system in a gated community with two dogs and still feels the need to have multiple guns and swords in his bedroom.

Maybe it's something he'll grow out of. He's a newlywed and new home owner, and he's definitely someone who likes his toys. Just a bit concerning, because having firearms is something that can obviously present new risks and he's someone I care very much about.
 

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MarsAtlas said:
You can't talk about American history and culture without talking about the firearm. Its 100% ingrained in the nation's identity. The formation of the country? Armed revolution against a foreign body. The greatest crisis in the country's history? Armed conflict between brothers and sisters over, more or less, the country's soul. The country's finest hour? Shooting Nazis[footnote]Yes, I know, we didn't really do that much but we think we did so thats what matters.[/footnote]. The bedrock upon which the country exists today? Western expansion facilitated by frontiersman who were of course armed with rifles.
I really, really don't like this explanation. I've seen it a number of times and it's just...I don't think that makes any sense. We, as a world, tend to use the most efficient weapons for killing in conflicts. Ever since guns came out, they have been the most efficient. In Europe, guns started being used in 16th century, if memory serves correctly. Since they became popular, pretty much everybody wanted to use them. Although, they were expensive, so not everybody could afford them. Some didn't actually want guns, though like the Ottoman empire which suffered a number of defeats over years, of not a couple of decades, because they kept literally bringing knives (albeit oversized ones) to a gun fight. Eventually, though, even they realised that running at the enemy and trying to cut or stab them to death was outdated.

So by the time we roll around to the 18th century, guns weren't really "exclusive" any more but pretty much expected in a conflict. As such, brandishing in battle shouldn't really be considered special. Now, if the newly born USA used swords, or halberds, or, dunno, maybe corkscrews, then that would have been noteworthy. Guns? Maybe if it was a very specific gun - like a particular model of a handgun or a rifle that was predominantly used for whatever reason. That's not the case - it's just guns in general. Sure, they might have been the main weapons used but they were also the main weapons used by everybody else at the time. You may as well claim that walking on your feet is a very key part of 's history because at all major events the residents have done that.
 

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I like to own pieces of WWII history and once or twice a year I quite enjoy blowing up pumpkins at the range with said pieces of WWII history.

I don't know why Americans are obsessed with guns to such an extent though.
 
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Parasondox said:
The difference is more of a life and death thing. I mean, video games don't kill people. DO NOT SHOW ME A CRAZY CASE SUGGESTING OTHERWISE. Also every time a video game accidently starts up, you don't have to inform the authorises about it.

I am not even pro or anti gun, just wanted to know why is their so much love towards it.
Excuse me if this comes off as harsh, but that very idea of "DON'T LINK ME TO A CRAZY CASE SUGGESTING OTHERWISE" smacks of 'I'll only accept the dangers of what I want to accept'.

The fact is, people binging on video games and dying is becoming distressing common. That's why MMORPGs (especially from Asia) will reward you if you log off and log back on later.

I don't love guns. But I have them.

I don't feel more powerful with a gun. In fact, I feel more of a target because I'm a minority. But I know at the end of the day, if a situation gets so dire that I'll actually have to use it... I will not be able to count on police.

I live of a suburb of Manhattan. Hurricane Sandy. Do you know what happened in Hurricane Sandy? The police were dispatched to the places of concern to the government. Wall Street, sensitive areas like that. That tells me if there's ever a serious situation, the police will not be worried about me. If something violently criminal happens, I will be a statistic that sadly died because the police were doing their duty... that has nothing to do with me.

Putting food in my mouth is my responsibility. Making sure I have power and warmth is my responsibility. And if someone sees I have these things and wants it for themselves, defending my life is my responsibility.

I do not live in a kind world. I live in a world of killers and thieves, as well as earnest and good people. But in desperate situations, the line between the two blurs.

To be blunt. I rather die thinking I needlessly spend money on things I never, ever had to use. I will die happy with that fact. But if a situation occurs that I can at least have some type of chance, I will be sure as shit happy that I have them.
 

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Okay, first thing's first: if you're going to tout outdated or outright disproven scientific ideas, why not use them that are actually fun? Geocentricism, phlogiston, the idea that the moon is a gets eaten by a pig every two weeks. Hell, spontaneous generation- you can get more mileage out of that than you'd believe, if you put in a little effort. This weird idea that the infinite sex-obsession ideas of Freud still hold water is ludicrous; let's let the nineteenth-century ideas go, okay? And let's not kid ourselves into thinking this is really about guns. On a per capita basis, both the Swiss and the pre-US-invasion Afghans have far more than we do. They also have far fewer mass shootings and violent riots, but that's the point- this is about cultural criticism of guns and their place in US society. That's fine; no shortage of subjects for discussion there, but let's be honest about it.

Now, despite sharing (most of) a common language with the UK and a big chunk of the rest of the world, the US is really quite different. If you try to judge a country by the cultural standards of another group of countries with wildly different social, political, and economic realities, of course it's going to fall short. If we judge the nations of western Europe based on how well they expended money, lives, and political capital to defend areas far outside their own borders from Russian and Chinese aggression during the Cold War, only a handful of them fair better than "failing miserably" (and while you could very legitimately raise the question of who's defending against American aggression, this post is already going to be long enough). They didn't need to do better, though; the new (and far bigger) kid on the block was there to do it for them. If we judge them by the amount they're willing to structure their economies to incentivize research and development of new drugs, medical procedures, and testing protocols, thereby allowing medical care in their countries to advance beyond the eighteenth century, well... Head on over to the US and walk it, coast to coast. How many Thalidomide babies do you see? It's easy to afford a nationalized system of essentially free healthcare when you're not paying for every drug that fails to meet the decade-long, 2% success rate of FDA approval testing. And it's easy to do that and stay modern when there's someone else to foot the bill.

If we judge them by the standards of good old fashioned American-style self-obsession, on the other hand, they do just fine; they'll insist that Europe and Asia are separate continents, in spite of centuries of direct evidence, physical proximity, and the existence of maps. The inhabitants of the UK even cheerfully refer to the mainland of Europe as "the Continent", ignoring the facts that 1. Europe's not a continent and 2. if it was, it wouldn't be "the Continent"; that would be Asia. They'll sometimes refer to the inhabitants of the US as "colonials" despite two centuries and two notable wars demonstrating otherwise. If that's not quite on the level as calling yourself an "American", thereby implying that the entire rest of two continents apparently don't count, it's still pretty close, so we do at least have that in common.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point. Saying the US is overly armed by the standards of pretty much anywhere else on Earth is like saying an elephant is overly multicellular by the standards of an amoeba. That said, is the borderline gun-worship that seems so prevalent to the outside world actually warranted by modern American life? Of course not. But "modern" by US standards is a much smaller timeframe than it is for most places; remember that old joke about Americans thinking that a hundred years is a long time and Europeans thinking that a hundred miles is a long way? It's not actually a joke. There was a time, no longer within living memory but not far from it, when that gun-worship was wholly appropriate. Is it clung to as an out-of-date idea that could still easily go horribly wrong and destroy someone's life? Sure. But a list of the same things that other nations have and do would take all day, and I've gone on long enough, so I'll close with a simple observation:

Here in the US, guns kill people. In the rest of the world, soccer kills people.


DoPo said:
So by the time we roll around to the 18th century, guns weren't really "exclusive" any more but pretty much expected in a conflict. As such, brandishing in battle shouldn't really be considered special. Now, if the newly born USA used swords, or halberds, or, dunno, maybe corkscrews, then that would have been noteworthy. Guns? Maybe if it was a very specific gun - like a particular model of a handgun or a rifle that was predominantly used for whatever reason. That's not the case - it's just guns in general. Sure, they might have been the main weapons used but they were also the main weapons used by everybody else at the time. You may as well claim that walking on your feet is a very key part of 's history because at all major events the residents have done that.
It's not about guns, specifically, it's about armed-ness (and by extension, preparedness) in general. It's not practical for a typical person to have a jet fighter or even a machine gun sitting around at home, but a shotgun or rifle? That's a different matter.