Games are already art

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Nwolfwood

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Remember how several months ago many gamers were in an uproar after movie critic Roger Ebert notoriously blogged "video games will never be art"? Well, in today's New York Times it was brought to my attention that a certain Brazilian theme of art heavily incorporated games, not necessarily of the video variety, as to "blur the distinction between creator and viewer."

Can anyone explain to me how this does not prove that interactive medium, like video games, cannot be viewed as art?

Here is the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/arts/design/22neuen.html?ref=arts

Also, I have read Yahtzee's article on the subject and I agree that the reason that Roger Ebert's blog post annoys me so much is because I have some insecurities on the matter. But the other reason it grates me is that a man of Roger's position among critics is high enough that any number of people who don't particularly use their brain will agree with him offhandedly and use his post to back up any condemnations of video games that they may think up in the future, which has already happened to me.
 

Pimppeter2

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Because art is subjective and if someone like Ebert (or myself) don't consider games art than it really shouldn't bother you unless you are an idiot.

Disagreeing with Ebert is fine, but when you whine and ***** about it your no better than fanboys who ***** when a reviewer doesn't consider their favorite title to be the greatest thing ever.
 
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I'm really sick of this whole art debate. Even if games are considered art, people will still look down on them and try to restrict them. Very little, if anything will change. This is a pointless debate because neither side will win. And all the hate hurled at Ebert just showed the world at large that gamers are just whiny little babies. That may not be true, but thats what the rest of the world sees when you shout so much unbridled hate at someone who's just expressing their opinion.
 

tofulove

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art is in the eye of the beholder, Ebert was a moron to proclaim its not, every one who talk shit about Ebert were just as moronic. end of story